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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Spunt]

Jesus Christ, what are you guys doing on that god-forsaken island?

Drinking.

 

[Almighty Space Duck]

Any able to recommend a good cheap VPN that’s pay monthly given the next government will be actively looking for thought criminals?

Another vote for Mulvad, if you’re torrenting you’re SOL when it comes to port forwarding. As for usage, across the 4 of 5 “devices ” I have on it there is minimum 1TB per month going through it and I’ve never had any bother.

 

[Yeeted Teet]

Any able to recommend a good cheap VPN that’s pay monthly given the next government will be actively looking for thought criminals?

Proton is about £8.50 (10 Euro, USD, or Swiss Francs so the exchange rates will fluctuate) if you pay by the month, which is cheaper than a lot of the more well known ones that get shilled on youtube and I also don't believe they've had any major security breaches like some of those more well known ones.

 

[Coccxys]

One has to wonder how much "shy Reform voter" effect are we talking about here. 10%? 15%? A whole 25%?

This weeks polls have had them on 16-21% and taking 5-6 seats. If there is a significant shy reform effect expect a good result and a major reddit/twitter meltdown about the nazis taking power (I mean expect that over just Farage getting elected).

The dots are individual polls with the lone being a simple weighted average.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Didn't vote, since I just escaped the sinking ship a month ago. Due to time zone differences, staying up to watch results come in is sadly a little impractical but I will be rooting for Reform over my bowl of Alpen tomorrow morning.

Total Conservative Destruction is the name of the game.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Voted for Big Nigel since I'm not a homosexual; and want to send them all senrt back. But they won't win so it's basically a protest vote.

 

[Coolio55]

Any able to recommend a good cheap VPN that’s pay monthly given the next government will be actively looking for thought criminals?

If you're not exclusively browsing Kiwifarms using TOR then WTF *are* you doing? Got into that habit when troons were blackholing and realized that it was a good habit to have.

 

[FedPostalService]

Nah, let's open a fresh one around 8, 9pm? This one is already long as fuck?

ETA: There's been an odd silence about this, but I am pretty certain that the SNP vote is going to fucking collapse. I have money on them making 15 seats. No, I am not a politically exposed person so my bet is quite legal

This might sound like I’m taking the piss , but I’m being sincere, if Scotland had had a good Euros and the Jimmy hat Tartan Army would have been fired up and dragged their friends along with the SNP.

I’m half wondering if it’s goosed in England because England have been terrible to watch too.

It’s a retarded theory, but humans are retarded.

 

[COMMI3 MARK]

They count those as votes for the Green party

We have a workers party candidate. I'm sure it'd go to them if anyone.

 

[Product Placement]

I stuck a tenner on a no overall majority at 8/1, worth a punt at those odds and known deficiencies in polling. Stuck a tenner on Lab/Lib coalition at 12/1 too, though that relies on my first bet working out.

I still expect a Labour majority in the end though.


The Conservatives have been running on the platform of "Labour are winning this, so let's do damage control" for weeks.

These are all from emails I have received this week

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I assume we'll be using this are our live discussion cope/seeth thread through the night.

someone could set up a cytube for it, people want to watch the shitshow live while talking

 

[Coccxys]

SNP have had a pretty big support collapse for much the same reason the Torys have. A long time in government (in scotland), a decline in all measures of standards of living, leadership changes that have proven unpopular/disasterous, and various scandles. They try their best to blame Westminster but its not going to save them.

The latest indepth poll released today predicts these ranges for the different parties.



The central estimate looks like this on a national scale


The likely win and close reform seats are

 

[adam_moche]

I hope you're happy voting for whatever party today but as an outsider, this thread is very depressing even for this site. It's not even a matter of doomposting like on the American political threads. Your country is genuinely going to the dogs. And I've read through Spunt's very funny thread about Britain. I used to live Britain (not to powerlevel) roughly 10 years ago, it was nowhere near as bad as this.

But still, what happened to your country? You used to have the most sophisticated and powerful nation on earth only 100 years ago. You haven't had a violent revolution for over 300 years. Most countries have revolutions and wars that shatter them every few decades. Not GB. And it's sad because I have so many good memories of my time there.

It's like looking at Argentina.

 

[Product Placement]

SNP have had a pretty big support collapse for much the same reason the Torys have. A long time in government (in scotland), a decline in all measures of standards of living, leadership changes that have proven unpopular/disasterous, and various scandles. They try their best to blame Westminster but its not going to save them.

SNP also still keep going on about leaving the UK, when right now their voter base have bigger issues like the ones you listen. Yet still don't get that.

 

[Coccxys]

SNP also still keep going on about leaving the UK, when right now their voter base have bigger issues like the ones you listen. Yet still don't get that.

Plus nationalist party with socialist policies was never going to work out long term. You don't get the guys who spend the time in a Glasgow pub fighting anyone who doesn't want to leave supporting policies to lock up anyone who misgenders a tranny they just caught perving on their daughter in the changing rooms.

 

[Ly Erg]

This might sound like I’m taking the piss , but I’m being sincere, if Scotland had had a good Euros and the Jimmy hat Tartan Army would have been fired up and dragged their friends along with the SNP.

Not really. The SNP have been in decline due to their decisions and performance lately after Nicola step down but support for indy is still unmoved from the usual 50% that support it in polls. I don't think it would of mattered much if Scotland did or didn't shite themselves during the last match they had. And if it did, it will only be a tiny part of football loving patriots that would of voted for SNP or Alba.

 

[Overly Serious]

I hope you're happy voting for whatever party today but as an outsider, this thread is very depressing even for this site. It's not even a matter of doomposting like on the American political threads. Your country is genuinely going to the dogs. And I've read through Spunt's very funny thread about Britain. I used to live Britain (not to powerlevel) roughly 10 years ago, it was nowhere near as bad as this.

But still, what happened to your country? You used to have the most sophisticated and powerful nation on earth only 100 years ago. You haven't had a violent revoltion for over 300 years. Most countries have revolutions and wars that shatter them every few decades. Not GB. And it's sad because I have so many good memories of my time there.

It's like looking at Argentina.

Middle Management.

It's impossible to get anything done right in the UK anymore. There's an installed layer of middle management that exist solely as a management class rather than actual experts in the things they manage. And this ionosphere of self-interest bounces back down any pro-active people who try to improve things or make real change. All organizations are now almost impenetrable to anyone not on board with the goal of steady self-enrichment and career building. Additionally the UK has become perhaps the best in the world at identifying and dealing with nascent organizations that attempt to build from the ground up.

People are like... crystals forming in water. They need something to cohere around. You can have all the resentment and desire for change imaginable but if they keep taking down the people that start to channel it, it lacks focus. I don't know any country in the world that is better at spotting such movements beginning to form and rapidly discrediting and dispersing them.

 

[FedPostalService]

SNP also still keep going on about leaving the UK, when right now their voter base have bigger issues like the ones you listen. Yet still don't get that.

That’s the entire point of their existence. Your post is like saying the Provisional IRA were fond of potatoes and the pope in its complete lack of originality.

 

[Product Placement]

That’s the entire point of their existence. Your post is like saying the Provisional IRA were fond of potatoes and the pope in its complete lack of originality.

More so the issue of being a one issue party.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It's like looking at Argentina.

Argentina's a good comparison, actually. I expect we'll skip the military junta thing, but we're definitely on a downslope to the sort of moribund, graft-based apparatus of state that so characterised Argentina's government for most of the last century. You'll know we're there when officials and the police start taking "undocumented fines" to leave you alone.

We built their railways. There's a lesson in that somewhere, though I'm not sure what it is yet.

 

[Coccxys]

But still, what happened to your country?

The competency crisis came for us. I work in a high tech industry, all of our experts have either retired or about to. All the next most senior people are early/mid 30s with a level of experience that goes with that. We have no middle, it just doesn't exist.

When we have a vacancy we either have to recruit someone who is like 2 years to retirement and hope we can get the next level ready in time, or recruit someone not qualified and hope we can train them before it becomes an issue.

We have just had to institute word and excel training as mandatory for all grads we hire as there is a significant potion of those we hire that can't operate those to any decent level, and these are all STEM grads.

If that's happening in my industry I can only imagine how that translates to others, then it starts to explain a lot of what's happening.