UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

Shig O'nella · Jun 21, 2024

Bloom Worm Cross Field said:
They see him as a smarmy red Tory snake who backstabbed the left of the party and constantly lies about his positions. I have no idea who they're actually going to vote for, I think many just won't vote at all.

Raises hand.

Str8Bustah · Jun 21, 2024

Shiverpeaks said:
Lots of rural communities are 'inbred' but really aren't. A few hundred people will all be related to each other through cousins but the gene pool is still big enough not to cause problems. To outsiders it looks like inbreeding but it's a healthy local community who are all interwoven by blood.

the only people who genuinely think these communities are a problem are the ones who consume the bile that spews out of major city centers. As prevalent as they are, their opinions on literally everything should just be ignored as a matter of principle unless they do something to show they aren't part of the problem.

3deadniggers · Jun 21, 2024

Goodbye Horses said:
There's nobody to vote for in my constituency. Labour have parachuted in some nog with a stupid name from London. Tories have parachuted in wish.com Rishi Sunak, not that I'd ever vote blue anyway. I really think both parties are underestimating how white and racist this town is.
For the smaller parties and indies, Libdem will never get my vote again after that coalition bullshit. Greens are retards. Reform is just another opportunity for Farage to scam retards. The two independents are a) the Reform manifesto with added pro-life nutjobbery, and b) a local businessman's continued efforts to turn the entire town into a free carpark for his businesses.

Just going to spoil my ballot.

"I hate all the people on offer here, so I'll vote for zero people". Good for you. We don't need people like you voting because apparently you're unable to see even a small shift in the Overton window might help you not have parachute nogs dropped in.

Str8Bustah said:
the only people who genuinely think these communities are a problem are the ones who consume the bile that spews out of major city centers. As prevalent as they are, their opinions on literally everything should just be ignored as a matter of principle unless they do something to show they aren't part of the problem.

I fully agree but small villages in the highlands seem really small breeding pool wise but then you realize it's healthy and it's not actual inbreeding. It's everyone has a sister married to someone 4 steps removed so everyone has ties to everyone else.

FedPostalService · Jun 21, 2024

Bloom Worm Cross Field said:
I don't know how significant of a demographic this is but I know a few red-wall, old-school socialist, Corbynite boomers and they absolutely loathe Starmer. They see him as a smarmy red Tory snake who backstabbed the left of the party and constantly lies about his positions. I have no idea who they're actually going to vote for, I think many just won't vote at all.

They tend to still go out come rain and shine and vote Labour anyway

Doctor Love · Jun 21, 2024

Shiverpeaks said:
We don't need people like you voting because apparently you're unable to see even a small shift in the Overton window might help you not have parachute nogs dropped in.

The issue is, pretending to play the system in the way it's "intended" is just affirming consent. It kind-of works, if your goal is to "appear" like you are participating with it.

It has the side effect of giving the illusion of consent. It's like being forced to draw straws to see if you will have your balls cut off. How did you manage to get into that situation, in the first place?

It's a lot more difficult to push a "legitimate democracy" when a huge chunk of the population openly refuses to participate. There is a precedent, actually - the Ulster referendum. The Irish minority recognised it, and opted that since they were a minority and would lose, they boycotted it en masse.

It's like a dictatorship, holding an election. There's armed guards at the ballot box, and one name on the paper - but it's still technically binding. Reform does have that value, and you're right in that it's a massive confidence boost to see so many people protest-voting. All it does is bring shit into the light.

I personally include "No Vote" as "Protest Vote" - one in three voters didn't even vote in 2019. The largest single share is "None of the Above"

3deadniggers · Jun 21, 2024

Doctor Love said:
It's like a dictatorship, holding an election. There's armed guards at the ballot box, and one name on the paper - but it's still technically binding. Reform does have that value, and you're right in that it's a massive confidence boost to see so many people protest-voting. All it does is bring shit into the light.

The people are demoralized because the propaganda forced on them tells them they're alone and isolated in feeling the same way everyone else does. I wouldn't bother voting for any of the usual parties but something feels differently lately. There is a building push back against the troons, faggotry and the invasion in ways we wouldn't have dreamed of a few years ago. It may not be total nigger death but it's a step towards that. I think Farage is controlled opposition and I wouldn't trust him any more than I trust the Tories or Labour, but I recognise his attention seeking can be a useful asset to keep the snowball rolling. My local reform MP is running on "Fuck these bastards. I'm local and I want to fix things" while my other candidates are from half the country away. I don't expect much but at least I can bang on the reform MP's door and call him a twat to his face if he wins. He's going to care more about the local hotels being filled with dangerous foreigners than some asshole in Brighton will. It's his backyard and that's more than any one else on the paper can say. He probably won't be any better than Ananigoogoo dewingomelarnadequaona from London but any sort of crack in the manufactured consent is a good thing.

Doctor Love · Jun 21, 2024

Shiverpeaks said:
but any sort of crack in the manufactured consent is a good thing.

Different means to the same end, really.

Shiverpeaks said:
He's going to care more about the local hotels being filled with dangerous foreigners than some asshole in Brighton will. It's his backyard and that's more than any one else on the paper can say.

Absolutely, it's an improvement - in my view, though, so long as a group of men with guns can, as the Blairite says, raid your house at 6am having spied on your posts on gossip forums then the entire thing is a charade. There is always the risk of the net getting ever-wider, with even more one-way restrictions added.

Bloom Worm Cross Field · Jun 21, 2024

Doctor Love said:
It's a lot more difficult to push a "legitimate democracy" when a huge chunk of the population openly refuses to participate.

That already happened in 2001, almost half the eligible population didn't vote and nobody in power really cared. IMO the only value in a large non-voting population is as a demonstration that a large chunk of the population is extremely disaffected and unsatisfied, but that is only worth something if that dissatisfaction can be shown to have a real risk of materialising into organised action. In this election we have the opportunity to vote for a party (Reform) that, while not great, is aligned a significant distance away from the consensus of the other large parties. I think that voting Reform is a better signal of popular organisation against the blob than not voting, which will just be taken as a reassuring sign to those in power that the disaffect masses are apathetic, not angry.

Also I don't fully understand what you're on about in your cryptic posts above, but the last thing anyone needs right now is any allahu ackbar shit, no matter who or what the target is. There is not a single possible positive outcome that will result from one random guy mixing up explosive chemicals in his shed or whatever. I'm having trouble parsing what your actual position is here so I may have the wrong end of the stick, but as a reminder to anyone even tempted to do something stupid: When terrorism works, it is because there is a mutual understanding that for every act carried out, there are countless more people ready and willing to do the same thing. This can be as big as Islamist or IRA bombings, or as small as lefties throwing milkshakes at Farage. This does not exist for any cause you likely support, so not only is it morally wrong to carry out some retarded act of violence (which will harden people against your cause), it is also completely ineffectual in terrorising anyone into giving you your own way. TL;DR: I don't know if you're planning something, but if you are, please don't.

Spunt · Jun 21, 2024

FedPostalService said:
Do I go full retard and vote Reform for shits and giggles?

I turned into a shy Tory as I got older but they had a zero chance in the best of days in my constituency but at least this could be part of a protest vote that finally get the Conservatives to stop being ponces that are desperate to be liked and look out for our country rather than sucking WEF cock.

I know I’m retarded for thinking this but it’s what’s keeping me going at the moment.

I'll lay my hat on the table here - I'm voting Reform and so should you.

I come from 3 generations of hardcore Tories. Everything about my background, my education, my work, my family, should make me a Tory. But I haven't been able to vote for any Tory leader since Cameron. Even though I probably shared less political ground with Cameron than I have with any Tory leader in my lifetime, I voted for him because he was a throwback to the kind of Tory we used to have in the first half of the 20th Century. If WWIII broke out, I'd want Cameron in charge more than any other postwar leader save Thatcher. He at least looked like he gave a shit. Look what we've had since - we've had that useless human traffic cone Theresa May, fucking King of Lies Boris Johnson, 80iq over-promoted HR manager Liz Truss, and now a charmless manlet who takes his orders from Davos. And the Tories are so short of ideas and talent that they had to drag Cameron back in to be Foreign Secretary because they couldn't trust any of their MPs not to nuke Gibraltar by mistake, and the most popular ideas as to what to do next involve bringing back Truss or Boris. It's genuinely hopeless, and that's before they lose 3/4 of their MPs in 2 weeks' time.

The Tories are done. They need to be put out of their misery. If we want right-wing politics in this country that is run by people loyal to this country and its people, and who want to serve the country rather than line their own pockets, we need to destroy the Conservative party. Burn it to the ground. Douse it in acid to stop it regenerating. These are people who, on learning when the election was, decided that the honourable thing to do was to go to the bookies to jam their fucking stubby, fat, greasy fingers in the till one more fucking time. Does that sound like a party that is the future of right-wing politics? Or any politics?

If you are a Tory, or at least someone who is loyal to conservative ideas rather than a Conservative party who wouldn't scrape you off the tyres of their BMWs if they ran you over, then you need to help delete the Tory party. Vote reform, or vote tactically to defenestrate whatever cucked, rent-seeking scumbag Tory is befouling the air wherever you live.

"But that will give Labour a bigger majority!" Yes it will. It will give Labour a bigger majority in the way chemo will give you alopecia. It's nasty medicine, and 5 years of Keir Starmer and Diane Abbott is a tough pill to swallow. But think, THINK, about what the alternative would be. A rump Tory party marching to defeat in 2029 and 2034 because they can't come up with any ideas or any leaders and think trying to steal Labour's policies is the way forward? Like they did in 2001 and 2005? And even if (when) Labour fuck up and the Tories win exactly the same way Labour are winning right now (by simply Not Being The Other Party) they will just institute the same policies for the same vested interests (most of whom don't even live in the UK) that they have since 1992. Nothing will change and the country will proceed on the same down-the-toilet trajectory until we're arguing about whether voting for Sunak in 2024 would have prevented us from being sent to the Klaus Schwab Memorial Old Person's Protein Recovery Facility that replaced the state pension system while your grandkids are injected with estrogen to stop unauthorised masculinity.

Don't worry about Labour's majority. The Tories scored a thumping majority in 2019 and now look what happened 5 years later, and that was without Labour really offering anything other than Not Being The Other Party. Politics can flip on a dime, but if the Tories limp along on life support for the next 20 years, they won't. It will be decades of the same shit we've already been swallowing since Blair. This is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to hit the reset button and force change. Vote for whoever you have to to make that happen but for the love of all that is good and holy do not vote Conservative.

Rightist politics in the UK needs to start again, with a new party. I don't think Reform is that party. Farage is the antithesis, not the synthesis. But clearing out people like Gove, Rees-Mogg, Truss, Boris, May and all those scumbags (many of whom have already fled their seats with pockets full of loot) from the right-wing conversation we will be able to say the unsayable and build a new right-wing democratic movement that actually gives a fuck about what people say and what they want. We have never had grassroots-up right-wing politics in this country, it has been sclerotic Tory Grandees followed by pawns of global capital, people who didn't care about the country or the people in it.

We can fix that, but only if we have the balls to do it.

Doctor Love · Jun 21, 2024

Bloom Worm Cross Field said:
There is not a single possible positive outcome that will result from one random guy mixing up explosive chemicals in his shed or whatever

So - the West, in a broad sense, excluding the USA, has massive restrictions on certain chemicals.

This should be open. Anyone who safely can - and I should emphasise this point - there is nothing special about this. I really don't want to carry that over to nitration, since that does need more experience - but only to the point of the average Chemist. It's not like you're piloting a fucking airliner.

I've genuinely had more accidents with wood chisels than with any chemical. I wouldn't advise doing anything absolutely fucking retarded but in the same way that I wouldn't advise driving while blind.

There's not a whole lot I can do if someone is trying this shit in a fucking shed. Yes, do not try to handle reactive substances without proper equipment. Also, don't stick forks into toasters and try not to drink bleach, regardless of how good it smells.

Genuinely - it's entirely legal in the United States. It's expected that if you're rural, you will know how to produce this shit. All I did was modernise it.

Bloom Worm Cross Field said:
TL;DR: I don't know if you're planning something, but if you are, please don't.

No. I've done what I needed to. I focused on one specific task, to explore the alternative pathways to the same end result.

I developed a modernised variation of the "old way" - similar to how beer is made, rather than the industrial method. It's a method which, although very crude, does actually push itself to plausibility - so as of now, there's about 20 years of unnecessary regulations which are bunk. They were always bunk, because they were made with a clear hostile intent by the government.

Bloom Worm Cross Field said:
This does not exist for any cause you likely support, so not only is it morally wrong to carry out some retarded act of violence (which will harden people against your cause), it is also completely ineffectual in terrorising anyone into giving you your own way.

There's no intent. I have been entirely clear - the state actively harms you, so you should have the right to protect yourself.

But I would like to highlight this - this is what's demoralising. Do people like you even want that? Shit is fucked beyond belief. A country with a nuclear arsenal has Hamas supporters every week in its capital. So, I made sure that the same people who have done everything to make my life worse now have a new problem to contend with.

At what point during that whole ordeal did "terrorising" come into it? We're in a constant state of terror - would anyone even notice, in-between the knife attacks?

Tell you what - passing Americans would probably think "Wow, Brits can't buy nitrate salts? What the fuck, that's everywhere, here! They don't even bother regulating it, I-I use that on my lawn!"

isalaide · Jun 21, 2024

AssignedEva said:
Lib Dem official opposition

I'm actually wheezing due to my laughter. Oh God, please let this happen.

Doctor Love · Jun 21, 2024

Doctor Love said:
Tell you what - passing Americans would probably think "Wow, Brits can't buy nitrate salts? What the fuck, that's everywhere, here! They don't even bother regulating it, I-I use that on my lawn!"

Genuinely: A quick Google to see how fucking retarded the average Blairite is:

Bare in mind - all I did was a step before this. Just moonshining KNO3. It's high enough in theoretical yield that it may be viable, but only when you can't access the industrial methods. Good for homesteads, post-apocalypse shit, generally if you want to live independently, in the wild, it's a good tool to have. It also accelerates decomposition of wood - hence, stump remover.

Our government, instead, gives us carcinogenic alternatives because guns bad, cancer good.

In effect, "Yeah, just stick to what you know, don't try anything too fancy" - don't try to fix your own car if you don't know how, don't run with scissors sort of shit.

"The machines which make it are very precisely tuned. It's possible, but hard. Just like, use something simpler."

This user is more concerned that someone would damage their very expensive gun. These are all realistic concerns. Not one of them is some vague allegory about Blair's secret police storming my house, or that I have a secret desire to convert to Islam.

Look at that, I have to keep it secret, they sell it at Walmart, right next to the shovels.

Roughly my opinion, except the first bit - there are plenty of trained individuals who can, but apparently, an obese police officer with a pride flag on his tie gets the final say on who is allowed. It doesn't matter how many years of lab experience you have - Officer Gay Boy has the final say.

Yep, pretty much the same. "KNO3 is safe, just don't piss about with the more reactive ones"

Here they are discussing experimental powders.

In brief - Jesus fucking Christ, it's depressing to know that the people who make the rules, here, think cancer is a better alternative than the risk that somebody might have access to shit which was commonplace fifty years ago.

We had an Empire, for fuck's sake.

AssignedEva · Jun 21, 2024

Doctor Love said:
Bare in mind - all I did was a step before this. Just moonshining KNO3.

I know I like to write long winded vaguely tangential essays, but is there any chance you could maybe cool it with your garden shed chemistry posting?

Rusty Metal Skull Gun · Jun 21, 2024

AssignedEva said:
I know I like to write long winded vaguely tangential essays, but is there any chance you could maybe cool it with your garden shed chemistry posting?

You just know this thread's going to get mentioned in the press when he inevitably blows himself up

3deadniggers · Jun 21, 2024

Spunt said:
These are people who, on learning when the election was, decided that the honourable thing to do was to go to the bookies to jam their fucking stubby, fat, greasy fingers in the till one more fucking time. Does that sound like a party that is the future of right-wing politics? Or any politics?

No, sounds like politics to me. Same slimy cunts doing the same thing on both sides.

Spunt said:
We can fix that, but only if we have the balls to do it.

Voting will never fix the situation we're in. The UK has a long history of making anti-status que things illegal in abstract ways. They will rarely say a party or movement is illegal, but they will find some side issue they can legislate against and ban it which impacts the party. If Trump had been in the UK they would have made red hats illegal after the first rally and had the BBC airing 45 minute documentaries on how red hats are the new menace and should be banned from shopping centers nation wide.

Rusty Metal Skull Gun said:
You just know this thread's going to get mentioned in the press when he inevitably blows himself up

You're all a bunch of cunts and I hope you choke on Tyrone's dick!

You can quote me on this Guardian.

isalaide · Jun 21, 2024

@Doctor Love
I know nothing about chemical engineering, and you obviously have significant expertise in this field.
But GCHQ use an awful lot of automated techniques to sift internet content, and there are several phrases in your recent posts that are likely to trip the software.
In the spirit of Kiwi solidarity, whatever the fuck you are doing at home, it is in your interests to not post about it here. We are a ridiculously highly-surveilled country. You would not be the first person on this site to get a knock at the door for something you posted here.
I know you are having a bad time with health troubles and poor care. I would be well fucked off as well, if it was happening to me. But please be careful not to make a bad situation worse by attracting the attention of the spooks.
<3

3deadniggers · Jun 21, 2024

isalaide said:
We are a ridiculously highly-surveilled country. You would not be the first person on this site to get a knock at the door for something you posted here.

Details please?

Spunt · Jun 21, 2024

Shiverpeaks said:
Details please?

@SIGSEGV got a visit from the Glowing Ones because it turned out adding "In Minecraft" at the end of a mass shooting threat doesn't actually work.

And Hi, GCHQ! You, you the Spook reading this. Yeah, you. You know you are part of the problem. You stay up at night thinking about it. You are struggling with your morals because of the things you are being asked to do. We know you do, and you know that we know. At what point does loyalty to your employer diverge from loyalty to your country? Because some day soon you won't be able to fit both those things into your life.

Shiverpeaks said:
Voting will never fix the situation we're in. The UK has a long history of making anti-status que things illegal in abstract ways. They will rarely say a party or movement is illegal, but they will find some side issue they can legislate against and ban it which impacts the party. If Trump had been in the UK they would have made red hats illegal after the first rally and had the BBC airing 45 minute documentaries on how red hats are the new menace and should be banned from shopping centers nation wide.

We are not in that situation yet, but if people like you stay at home rather than take this unique opportunity to nuke the Tories from orbit, we might be. And then what are you going to do? You've already attacked people who want to leave to improve their quality of life or provide for their families in ways most people in the UK can no longer do. So what is your solution? Fedpost things better? Look at any of the Arab Spring countries now. They are all WORSE places to live than they were before the protests. Revolutions replace one set of scumbags with another set of scumbags whose first priority is to not get overthrown in turn and act accordingly. So what is your genius plan?

3deadniggers · Jun 21, 2024

Spunt said:
So what is your genius plan?

My plan is to go to the chip shop for tea. Beyond that, I am undecided.

Spunt · Jun 21, 2024

Shiverpeaks said:
My plan is to go to the chip shop for tea. Beyond that, I am undecided.

Look at it this way - even if it doesn't make things any better, at this stage voting for Farage can't possibly make anything worse, and it will make a lot of people very, very angry which should be reason enough to do it anyway.

UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

Shig O'nella

green side up

Str8Bustah

'Keep your mind in Hell, and do not despair'

3deadniggers

FedPostalService

Null yearns for Big Bulgarian Cock

Doctor Love

3deadniggers

Doctor Love

Bloom Worm Cross Field

Frêche Mite

Spunt

Badunkadunkadunk.

Doctor Love

isalaide

has no gun and a bad lawyer

Doctor Love

AssignedEva

I throw the quesadilla at the wall.

Rusty Metal Skull Gun

i vill not move out of ze vay

3deadniggers

isalaide

has no gun and a bad lawyer

3deadniggers

Spunt

Badunkadunkadunk.

3deadniggers

Spunt

Badunkadunkadunk.