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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

‘women have a vagina, men have a penis. Defining women is not hard’
- David Cammeron

What is this fucking timeline lmao

 

[Welsh Catgirl Enjoyer]

The only way to fix the migration problem now, nearly 30 years late, is to mass deport every first and second generation African and muslim. But, we won't, because just like the conversation in the 80's or the deportation in the 90s', the mere thought of it was so extreme that it would never happen.

If we don't deport now, in 20 years time, we will be looking at even more extreme options that no-one really wants to stomach. Unfortunately, if we don't do something then, the British will be gone. Call this extreme, but people called Enoch Powell a racist and extremist. How many people have been mugged, raped and killed by non-British?

I don't think we need to deport en-masse like that quite yet. But we do need to basically turn immigration all the way down. Gross zero, not net zero. We can't do this "one in one out" thing. Keep it like that until we get things in order, and then maybe we can loosen things up in 10-30 years when we aren't just gonna destroy ourselves again.

There's also a cultural aspect too though. We need to restore national identity so we're not just "small island on europe but not really culturally european that has a lot of different people". Even if we were to deport every first and second generation immigrant, we're not fixing anything national identity remains fucked.

Also. We might need to look to Shinzo Abe. We're gonna hit a population crisis. Basically everyone I know below 30 has totally written of the idea of ever having kids. Not just waiting till they're older, but ever. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with an aging depressed population who attempts to legalise MAID once their bodies begin to fail them and they are left alone in a state care home.

 

[GratsTheat783]

Thanks for the responses. I didn't vote in 2019 and although I'm thinking about voting now, I don't think it would be for any of the main parties. It probably be for some party that would never win. I'll look at the Scottish family party.

What are the most interesting third-parties you've read about? They don't have to be viable, serious or stand any chance of winning. I read about one called the English Liberal Democrats who want England to have an independence referendum. I also read the Britain First manifesto a few years ago. Their plans were to completely stop all immigration, offer rewards for immigrants to leave, punish companies for using imported goods and labour and a focus on Christian values at schools. It might have changed a bit since then though.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

I don't think we need to deport en-masse like that quite yet. But we do need to basically turn immigration all the way down. Gross zero, not net zero. We can't do this "one in one out" thing. Keep it like that until we get things in order, and then maybe we can loosen things up in 10-30 years when we aren't just gonna destroy ourselves again.

There's also a cultural aspect too though. We need to restore national identity so we're not just "small island on europe but not really culturally european that has a lot of different people". Even if we were to deport every first and second generation immigrant, we're not fixing anything national identity remains fucked.

Also. We might need to look to Shinzo Abe. We're gonna hit a population crisis. Basically everyone I know below 30 has totally written of the idea of ever having kids. Not just waiting till they're older, but ever. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with an aging depressed population who attempts to legalise MAID once their bodies begin to fail them and they are left alone in a state care home.

i respect your perspective, but immigration on zero isn't solving the problem or putting out the fire, it's just dealing with the smoke.
At the risk of sounding like an English faggot and having visited a lot of Wales, I do wonder if your experiences are as extreme as ours?

 

[6MillionCoofs]

i respect your perspective, but immigration on zero isn't solving the problem or putting out the fire, it's just dealing with the smoke.

Sure. But sometimes you need to deal with the smoke first to be able to see what you are doing and better address the actual problem. You have to start trying to solve the problem before you can actualy solve the problem.

 

[Product Placement]

I've seen some people on here say that Nigel Farage is planted opposition. What makes you think that? I don't know much about him other than that he used to be a banker and that he's a right-wing populist. I've been told that populism is overall bad, as a populist politician will always have to change his plan to whatever's popular at the time, meaning nothing that gets started gets complete unless done quickly (which the system mostly prevents).

GB News made me realise just how much people look to the TV to decide what opinions are acceptable or not. When I had reservations about the vaccine, my parents and family would call me a conspiracy theorist and I ended up succumbing to their pressure to take it, yet once hosts on GB News started questioning it, they also started questioning it. I've also noticed it with climate change, immigration and probably some other topics.

I don't think he is planted opposition myself, however if I had to guess why, it's because Reform is a private business, which Farage owns over 50% of, so what ever he says goes. Members don't vote for who they want to lead the party.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11694875

Also when he was in EU parliament, he had the second worst voting record, only turning up to about 40% of the votes, despite being a job being voted him into and him getting about £84k a year do it. He also hired his wife, and had a few other iffy money things during his run as a MEP.

Personally I think he does hold most the views he says, but anything outside those areas he doesn't give a shit about, and he doesn't want to be in power, he just wants to make money and has a good grift going.

 

[Otterly]

English Liberal Democrats

The Lib Dems are just as useless as the rest of them. They also don’t know what a woman is.
There is nobody to vote for. At the very best you’ll get a decent constituency MP who works for your local area but most are parachuted in as a tester before they take up a ‘better’ position. Or maybe a couple of independent candidates in the odd seat who haven’t been totally compromised yet but there’s no decent party to vote for.
My political views are very mild, IMO, and there is no party that even begins to represent me.

 

[3deadniggers]

I disagree. I don't want the ovens fired up or millions of innocent, decent people being put against the wall. It's why I'm an advocate for being a little nasty (then) and a bit nasty now, so that we don't get put in a position where we genocide them, or they genocide us. For all of the larping, nobody wants that.

There is no way you can retake the island while being nice to the people invading it. Do you think the crusaders went 'Now now, lets not free Europe from Muslim occupation in a nasty way. We have to be nice to them'? There really isn't an option to remove these people, a sizeable amount were born here and you have to get rid of them some where.

I don't think he is planted opposition myself, however if I had to guess why, it's because Reform is a private business, which Farage owns over 50% of, so what ever he says goes. Members don't vote for who they want to lead the party.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11694875

This is an upgrade from UKIP.

Farage is controlled opposition for 3 main reasons.
1. He's allowed to speak in public and is not immediately shut down, deplatformed, arrested and debanked the way every other right winger is. This is a huge red flag.
2. He's very buddy buddy with Trump who is the same controlled opposition where he wants to 'Make American great again' while giving money to the people shitting up America. Farage isn't interested in solving the problem, he wants to blow the smoke away for a little longer hoping everyone will suddenly turn friendly to each other.
3. When he ran UKIP they had an Israeli lobby calling the shots in the background. If the UK independence party has to bow to the Israeli lobby it's not very independent is it?

 

[GratsTheat783]

The Lib Dems are just as useless as the rest of them. They also don’t know what a woman is.
There is nobody to vote for. At the very best you’ll get a decent constituency MP who works for your local area but most are parachuted in as a tester before they take up a ‘better’ position. Or maybe a couple of independent candidates in the odd seat who haven’t been totally compromised yet but there’s no decent party to vote for.
My political views are very mild, IMO, and there is no party that even begins to represent me.

It's a bit weird, but the English Liberal Democrats are actually a different party from the Liberal Democrats.

 

[Otterly]

It's a bit weird, but the English Liberal Democrats are actually a different party from the Liberal Democrats.

I thought they were the English wing of the lib dems? I am willing to be completely wrong on that mind - are there two separate parties with such similar names?
We also had the monster raving loonies, not sure if they’re still around …

 

[FedPostalService]

debanked the way every other right winger

Coutts shut his bank account down. If it wasn’t for it being a lizard people bank they’d have got away too.

The head of NarWest ended up losing her job after gossiping about it with a journalist.

If he’d been with a regular bank this would have been swept under the rug; the fact this scared the elites that they could be treated like the proles and they started threatening to move their money is how heads rolled.

 

[3deadniggers]

I thought they were the English wing of the lib dems? I am willing to be completely wrong on that mind - are there two separate parties with such similar names?
We also had the monster raving loonies, not sure if they’re still around …

Some of our Proposals for other elections​

Along with the existing Government policy for levelling up the North with the South we will provide free Spirit Levels to all
We will reduce inflation by giving everyone free pins.
To make trains safer, we will fit them all with cushions on the front.
Any possible schemes thought up by Government, Council , NHS etc, such as closure of Hosptitals, workplace parking levy etc will be preceded with a Public Consultation which we will then ignore.
We will combat corruption in public life by taking part in it openly, we will introduce the Board of Bribery who will set standardised rates?. #sleaze for the many not just the few
We propose to prevent identity theft instantly by calling everyone Chris.
All political and electoral leaflets will be printed on soft paper so that it may be recycled in the appropriate manner.
In an effort to reduce the problems faced by the NHS , it is proposed to reduce pregnancy from nine to seven months ?
To protect pets and people of a nervous disposition we would introduce silent fireworks.
With Government helped finance, AstraZeneca should buy out Pfizer, then, as we would have the rights to Viagra, the economy may stay up longer.
Redundant Red Phones boxes will be converted to bijou accommodation to ease the housing shortage.
To make things fairer we will introduce a Court of Human Lefts.

Coutts shut his bank account down. If it wasn’t for it being a lizard people bank they’d have got away too.

The head of NarWest ended up losing her job after gossiping about it with a journalist.

If he’d been with a regular bank this would have been swept under the rug; the fact this scared the elites that they could be treated like the proles and they started threatening to move their money is how heads rolled.

He made a lot of noise and kept his accounts. That's one of those near misses they use to cover their asses when questions like that are asked. I know it's the USA but look at Alex Jones. If they wanted Farage gone he would be by now. The type of stuff he says about Muslim youth is definitely a hate crime.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I thought they were the English wing of the lib dems? I am willing to be completely wrong on that mind - are there two separate parties with such similar names?

They are the "english wing" of the lib dems, but the way the liberal democrat party structure works makes it all a bit peculiar. This is why you can have the national party kowtowing to all the consensus positions, while all the local liberal democrat parties are often diametrically opposed to many of those positions. The common one is wind power. The national party supports the consensus, but the local and even regional party organisations generally oppose the development of wind power because of its deleterious effects on local communities and wildlife.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

who attempts to legalise MAID once their bodies begin to fail them

We're already well along that timeline, Keir Starmer has said he'll call a vote on it if Labour are elected, and Rishi Sunak pledged support for it as well yesterday.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67785112

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunak-not-opposed-legalising-33041880

 

[3deadniggers]

Terrorist stopped from detonating bomb outside hospital by patient who 'talked him down'

Hospital worker Mohammad Farooq, 28, allegedly planned to "kill as many nurses as possible" when he was arrested with a pressure cooker bomb. He was seized outside the Gledhow Wing of St James's Hospital in Leeds, in the early hours of January 20th.​

Prosecutors say Farooq planned to "seek his own martyrdom" through a "murderous terrorist attack" by detonating the bomb. It was claimed he wanted to kill as many people as possible with knives before using an imitation firearm to incite police to shoot him dead.

Opening the trial on Monday, Jonathan Sandiford KC said Farooq had immersed himself in an "extremist Islamic ideology" and that his "plan A" had been to attack RAF Menwith Hill, which is a base in North Yorkshire used by the United States.


"When he thought that was not possible, his 'plan B' was to attack St James Hospital, a softer and less well-protected target than a military base," Mr Sandiford said.

Farooq was a clinical support worker at the hospital and his "secondary motive" for choosing it as a target was that he had a grievance against several of his former colleagues. It was claimed he had been conducting a poison pen campaign against them, Sheffield crown court jurors were told.

Mr Sandiford said "two pieces of good fortune intervened" to stop the attack that day. The first was that a bomb threat he sent in a text to an off-duty nurse - in order to lure people to the car park where he was waiting with the bomb - was not seen for almost an hour. As a result, it was claimed, the full-scale evacuation he had hoped for did not happen.


The prosecutor said Farooq left but returned shortly afterwards with a new plan to wait in a hospital cafe for a staff shift change and detonate his device, "killing as many nurses as possible". But Mr Sandiford told the court that "luck intervened again" because a patient, Nathan Newby, was standing outside the hospital having a cigarette and "noticed the defendant".


He said: "Mr Newby realised something was amiss and began to talk to him instead of walking away. That simple act of kindness almost certainly saved many lives that night because, as the defendant was later to tell the police officers who arrested him, Mr Newby succeeded in 'talking him down'."


Mr Sandiford said the defendant told Mr Newby about his plan to take the bomb into the hospital and "kill as many nurses as possible".

He said: "Mr Newby stayed with the defendant, keeping him engaged and calm. Mr Newby also persuaded the defendant to move away from the main entrance to a seating area so that the IED was as far away from the building as it was possible to go."


Jurors heard Farooq then handed his phone over to Mr Newby to ring the police. The defendant was arrested by officers who found the "viable" pressure cooker bomb had just under 10 kilograms of low explosive. He also had, with him or in his car, two knives, black tape and a blank-firing, imitation firearm.


The court heard Farooq has admitted firearms offences, possessing an explosive substance with intent and having a document likely to be useful to a person preparing or committing an act of terrorism.

He denies preparing acts of terrorism. Mr Sandiford said the defendant admits intending to attack St James Hospital but denies any intention to attack Menwith Hill.

The trial continues.

 

[Otterly]

his "plan A" had been to attack RAF Menwith Hill, which is a base in North Yorkshire used by the United States.

However after realising that the chaps at the RAF base would kick his teeth down his throat he decided to take the easier route and bomb a hospital?
Man was never even considering attacking an actual armed forces installation, he just got rejected by some nurse and has gone into the typical subcontinental mode of revenge.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Gledhow Wing of St James's Hospital in Leeds

They can't catch a break. Between getting fucked by Saville and nearly alluha akbar'd, why would a nurse work there?

 

[Doctor Love]

Hospital worker Mohammad Farooq, 28, allegedly planned to "kill as many nurses as possible" when he was arrested with a pressure cooker bomb. He was seized outside the Gledhow Wing of St James's Hospital in Leeds, in the early hours of January 20th.

Scouse man with Lucozade bottle is worth more than our entire police force.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

a patient, Nathan Newby, was standing outside the hospital having a cigarette and "noticed the defendant".

Smoking saves lives?

Scouse man with Lucozade bottle is worth more than our entire police force.

Why do I have a horrible feeling some of the warm, empathetic dialogue that saved people's lives involved the phrase "she sounds like a right cunt"?

 

[Welsh Catgirl Enjoyer]

i respect your perspective, but immigration on zero isn't solving the problem or putting out the fire, it's just dealing with the smoke.
At the risk of sounding like an English faggot and having visited a lot of Wales, I do wonder if your experiences are as extreme as ours?

I'm English, not Welsh. It's just the catgirls I like are Welsh,

And yeah, the issue is pretty extreme. I'm thankfully not living inside of a major city so there's a lot of issues I avoid (I would hate to live in London). So that's a bit of isolation from the worst of it.

Issue is, there's no way you're ever going to just be able to blanket-deport 1st and 2nd generation immigrants. Especially 2nd-generation legal migrants.

You've kinda got to do multiple things to get close to that. Deport illegals, throw the book at legal migrants who commit crimes, foster national identity such that anyone who doesn't integrate will be the outsiders, and massively reduce the handouts so that if you arrive with nothing to your name, you won't just get chucked into a nice apartment with an allowance and all your utilities paid for while you work an under-the-counter job or become a Deliveroo driver.

That's probably about as far as you can go. And even then, many would consider this plan of action to be an extremist stance.