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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Geoff Capes Vapes Apes said:
Nope. Possession of an air rifle doing 12.1 ft-lbs without having it on a firearms certificate is as illegal as a bolt action .50BMG in the same circumstances.
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Who's going to check though? I know/knew a fair few people who have air rifles and none were, according to them, over the 12ft-lbs limit. Who is going to check either way though?
Chavs knocking about in the back fields with them didn't cause alarm with the rozzers so to me at least it's not much of a big deal.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
Who is going to check either way though?
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The problem isn’t the extra slight souping up of an air rifle. It’s that if the police want to nobble you for naughty thoughts, it’s much easier for them to get you on firearms charges (super serious! He must be so dangerous! send him down for a long one!) than to argue the toss on a case about speech.
Never give them any easy way to lock you up.
 
Otterly said:
The problem isn’t the extra slight souping up of an air rifle. It’s that if the police want to nobble you for naughty thoughts, it’s much easier for them to get you on firearms charges (super serious! He must be so dangerous! send him down for a long one!) than to argue the toss on a case about speech.
Never give them any easy way to lock you up.
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UNO reverse card: I Identify as a woman, am a practicing Muslim (according to the Qu'ran, we are all Muslim anyway) and vote Labour. FREE, FREE PALESTINE!!

Joking aside, It's good advice.
 
On the McCanns

"Clement Freud assured Kate McCann she had nothing to fear from the cadaver dogs giving a positive response inside the McCann’s hire car, hired after Madeleine 'disappeared'. They had no evidential value. 'So what are they going to do? One bark for yes, two barks for no?' asked Freud."

Clement is a known child abuser, and relative to the famous Sigmund.

Maddy is likely having a nap at the bottom of the ocean in a bin bag, considering she was at one point the most sought after girl in the west. But I think she was taken initially for the purpose of abuse.
 
whogoesthere said:
On the McCanns

"Clement Freud assured Kate McCann she had nothing to fear from the cadaver dogs giving a positive response inside the McCann’s hire car, hired after Madeleine 'disappeared'. They had no evidential value. 'So what are they going to do? One bark for yes, two barks for no?' asked Freud."

Clement is a known child abuser, and relative to the famous Sigmund.

Maddy is likely having a nap at the bottom of the ocean in a bin bag, considering she was at one point the most sought after girl in the west. But I think she was taken initially for the purpose of abuse.
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Yeah, she is long dead either way. Whether her parents did it, she was abducted or simply noclipped out of reality.

Still a gross waste of money.
 
On the McCanns I am always reminded of the South Park episode when Linda thinks she murdered Butters and the some Puerto-Rican guy defence. The case happened when I was a teen but even from the get go I think Kate did it and Gerry disposed of the body so Kate would get minimal sentencing. They look constantly guilty but in a cold way like when you catch a kid in the cookie jar. They were affluent before it happened and are more so now, they were both GPs and could have easily afforded child care nightly. Their salary combined was at least 300k with insane benefits. Kate too comes across as narc AF she has taken a liking to being the victim too much.

Scotland Yard wasting public money though shocking!!!
 
Otterly said:
If they come for my hobbit sized scythe I shall resist strongly.
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Molon labe, Mister Frodo.
Bog-standard Poster said:
Thanks for the information on what I shouldn't do, and definitely won't, with the murder-bangsticks. I've been to the odd shop last year and liked the look of some of the rifles with the aim (no pun intended) of going to a few ranges and getting my aim back. I've handled large weapons in my time, nudge nudge, wink wink, but i'm a little out of practice.
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Great minds, and all that. Been doing some window shopping myself (and wondering if a pigeon-based diet might be in my future, post-collapse). Adequate shot in my youth, be fun to give it a whirl again. Hunter Field Target seems popular and looks interesting.
 
Spud said:
So skip the air rifle and get a .50cal, Got it.
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You joke, but that is the natural result of that law.

Look at what happened with National Action - the leaders were arrested for "crimes" which weren't crimes at the time. They'll just do the same to you, eventually - once they feel the need, they'll take you down for whatever contrived load of bullshit they can come up with.
 
The german sex attacker who was originally the main suspect, his friend contacted the police in 2017 via answerphone message to say that brueckner confessed to taking her to him. It's only coming to public attention now because a police officer brought it up as part of a court case against the sex attacker's current trial. Daily Mirror.
 
Tragon Dirtle said:
The german sex attacker who was originally the main suspect, his friend contacted the police in 2017 via answerphone message to say that brueckner confessed to taking her to him. It's only coming to public attention now because a police officer brought it up as part of a court case against the sex attacker's current trial. Daily Mirror.
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It’s always funny how and when things come out.
 
Speaking of bladed weapon deaths sentencing finally got done with another such case which means some of the 16 year olds can now be named.


The three teenagers convicted of killing 16-year-old Mikey Roynon at a house party in Bath last summer have been jailed.

Mikey died after being stabbed in the neck with a knife following an incident in the back garden of a house in the Weston area of the city on 10 June.

Three 16-year-old boys stood trial earlier this year, with a jury returning a verdict of murder for one of the boys and manslaughter for the other two.

Today (Friday 3 May), the boys were brought back to Bristol Crown Court where they were sentenced for killing Mikey and possessing a bladed weapon.

During the hearing, The Honourable Mr Justice Saini lifted reporting restrictions banning the names of the three boys from being reported.

The boy who was convicted of murdering Mikey can now be identified as 16-year-old Shane Cunningham.

The two boys convicted of his manslaughter can also be named as Cartel Bushnell and Leo Knight, both also 16 years old.


Cunningham was subsequently jailed for life and was told by the judge he must serve a minimum of 16 years in prison.

Bushnell was sentenced to nine years in jail and was told he must serve at least two thirds of this before being considered for parole.

Knight, who unlike Cunningham and Bushnell denied having a knife but was found guilty of this offence by the jury, was jailed for nine years and six months. He too will also have to serve at least two thirds of this sentence.

The police investigation into the incident uncovered CCTV showing the boys had travelled to the party from the Wiltshire area armed with knives.

After stabbing Mikey, they fled the house and were captured on CCTV discussing what happened.

They then discarded some of their clothing and disposed of their knives, with the one used to kill Mikey later recovered from a drain.

None of the boys chose to give evidence in their defence during the trial although jurors were told the boy convicted of murdering Mikey admitted stabbing him, claiming it was self-defence.

In a statement read out in court during today’s hearing, Mikey’s mum, Hayley Ryall, described the impact her son’s death had on her.
She said: “Every morning I wake up and it hurts as much as the last morning.
“I keep having awful dreams that Mikey is lost and I’m looking for him, but even the awful dreams are better than waking up to reality.
“At least in my dreams he is somewhere, whereas in reality he is gone.”
She described how difficult she found what would’ve been Mikey’s 17th birthday in November and Christmas without him and spoke of her sadness at never being called ‘mum’ again.
She also spoke of her fear of the court process and of the future.
“I feel like I’m living in a film or a nightmare and soon I’ll wake up and I’ll be able to hug and kiss him and Mikey will say “it’s OK mum”,” she said.
“Will justice help me? I don’t know and I’m not even sure I want to know because life will never be normal again.”
In his statement, Mikey’s dad, Michael Roynon said: “There is no punishment for those responsible that will take away the pain that I feel.
“Nothing will bring Mikey back and as a dad losing my only son, I feel like I have a life sentence and will have to live with this forever.
“I can only hope that as time goes on, I feel less wounded and can find a way to rebuild my heart and life which has been shattered by Mikey’s death.”
Sentencing the boys, The Honourable Mr Justice Saini said: “On the day Mikey was killed, he was only 16. He was a child. His family have suffered a loss that’s unimaginable.”
He added: “Bristol and its surrounding areas are in the middle of a plague of knife crime.
“The plague has continued since this trial finished. The lives of young boys who carry knives continue to be taken at the hands of other boys who carry knives.
“Those who carry knives are themselves the most likely to be killed with a knife.”

At the end of the hearing, he awarded Crown Court Commendations to five members of the Major Crime Investigation Team, praising the work they had done.

Detective Inspector Mark Newbury, the senior investigating officer, said: “Mikey’s death sent shockwaves throughout his local community in Kingswood and the community of Bath where he was stabbed.

“The boys responsible for the dreadful attack travelled to the house party it happened at from the Wiltshire area.

“Knife crime is a disease which leaves a horrifying and long-lasting mark on everyone it affects, it’s a national problem which isn’t limited to specific towns or cities and we must come together as a society to tackle it.

“Mikey’s mum has shown tremendous fortitude since losing her only child and I have the utmost respect for the bravery she has shown in talking openly about her grief and how she has highlighted the devastation knife crime causes.”

He added: “Earlier this year, we launched a proactive operation to tackle and disrupt serious violence and knife crime involving young people but police enforcement alone isn’t the answer.

“We’re working closely with our local authority partners, our colleagues in education and health and the Violence Reduction Partnership to identify the root causes and divert young people away from criminality.

“But we also need parents to talk to their children about knife crime – to make sure that they understand the terrible consequences carrying a knife can have and also how to report if they have concerns about someone they know carrying a knife.

“Mikey’s death was utterly senseless and totally avoidable and we owe it our children to make sure we do everything we can to ensure other 16-year-olds never suffer the same fate.”
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Stabby little bastards.

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isalaide said:
Current state of Rishi dilation: Tories have lost 341 council seats so far with 9 councils still to declare results. This is significantly better than it might have been.
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We have a British election/politics thread here: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/genera...d-all-things-britbong-politics.49923/page-393 where someone made an excellent point that while the Tories are getting somewhat felted, Labour are not making the massive gains you'd expect, with a lot of independents/smaller parties picking up decent gains

whothefuck said:
Any news on the London mayoral election? Hearing murmurs that Khan may actually have lost.
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Counting doesn't even start until tomorrow morning with the final result not expected until teatime-ish. That being said it wouldn't surprise me if he lost given the ULEZ expansion shit was that unpopular.
 
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