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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Judge Dredd said:
Maybe if you want to be a heritage rail engineer. But I think they have decades long waiting lists?
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The skills and qualifications gained volunteering on a heritage railway cross over with the ones to work on a commercial rail yard. Volunteering on one and working your way up makes it much easier to find work and connections on the other.
 
SirCliveSinclairdabbing said:
The skills and qualifications gained volunteering on a heritage railway cross over with the ones to work on a commercial rail yard. Volunteering on one and working your way up makes it much easier to find work and connections on the other.
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How do they weed out the totally nonfunctional foamers, though? Imagine how many foamers you'd have to go through to get one qualified person.
 
Teghern said:
But muh judicial independence.
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Parliament is sovereign. If the powdered wigs fuck around too much, then parliament must change the laws.

The Blair government abolished the Law Lords as the last court of appeal and created the abomination of the Supreme Court. Since then it has been stuffed with over promoted, self important dolts like Lady Hale who think they can usurp the will of Parliament - specifically the Commons.

They need to stick to the knitting, stop meddling in politics and resolve important issues like Private parking tickets.
 
EddyRooney said:
Everything I've read is that whilst this might be a phenomena in developed countires, it certainly isn't in others.
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Except it is. The site you link even says-
While it is true that many African countries are experiencing declining fertility rates—for example, Nigeria's fertility rate decreased from 6.35 in 1960 to 5.3 in 2019—these reductions reflect a global trend as opposed to a regional one.
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Africa and the middle east are being hit by the same birthrate decline. They haven't dropped below replacement yet, but they're well on their way.

This is why the government stopgap of mass migration will ultimately implode, because those that move here end up with the same birthrate problems.

EddyRooney said:
It's just a question of the wrong people breeding - uncivilised, undeucated, lazy people that are incapable of supporting a civilisation.
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I think it's the other way around. The elites want a population of docile peasants that will do the manual labour required to keep their fleet of private jets and mansions running.
 
Judge Dredd said:
Starting with the oil shock of the 1970s, birth rates dropped, and stayed low. No one is sure why. Usual finger pointing at things like birth control, but there's no correlation there. The main theories are behavioural sink and the economy.
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They're the same theory really. Reduce to 'futures' and it's a bit easier to see. If there's nothing on the horizon worth propagating the next generation for, the inherent programming to reproduce gets overrriden and distorted into behaviors that stall or reduce population rather than expand it. In an evolutionary sense it's kind of heartening, for it to be present suggests this is not the first rodeo and so the whole thing might not be some complete failure, just part of a repeated cycle. Then again, if it's one of those waves that gets bigger each time until eventually it's just too big and becomes total... Catton made this argument in Overshoot and I found it persuasive.
 
RealMuthaForYa said:
Parliament is sovereign. If the powdered wigs fuck around too much, then parliament must change the laws.

The Blair government abolished the Law Lords as the last court of appeal and created the abomination of the Supreme Court. Since then it has been stuffed with over promoted, self important dolts like Lady Hale who think they can usurp the will of Parliament - specifically the Commons.

They need to stick to the knitting, stop meddling in politics and resolve important issues like Private parking tickets.
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Yes and bringing this up the "balance of power"ophiles always gets their knickers in a twist, even more so when they find out we had a bunch of wars over it and le parliament won every time.
It would be nice if the sovereignty could exercise some more sovereignty, especially on things that really matter like freeholds (literal feudal tenancy) vagrancy (fucking gyspies) and the legality of council tax (worse than stamp duty) but they're oh so busy getting their dick pics leaked.
They even came up with a newspeak for it, spear phising!

William Wragg: MP tells paper he is sorry for sharing private phone numbers​

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Senior Tory William Wragg has told the Times he gave personal phone numbers of fellow MPs to a man he met on a dating app because he was "scared".

He told the paper the individual had "compromising things on me" and apologised to those affected.

It follows reports at least 12 men in political circles received unsolicited WhatsApp messages.

Some had been sent naked images and two MPs are reported to have responded by sending images of themselves.

The men are reported to include a government minister, advisers and political journalists based at Westminster.


One former MP has told the BBC he was targeted by someone calling themselves "Charlie", who claimed - wrongly - that he had previously worked for Mr Wragg.

BBC News has also seen messages sent from the same number to a political journalist.

The BBC has attempted to contact Mr Wragg for comment.

The incident has raised concerns about MPs' security and the dangers of so-called "spearphishing" attacks, which use emails or messages to obtain an individual's sensitive information.

Leicestershire Police say they were investigating one of the cases, after it was reported to them last month.


The Conservatives' whips office - which upholds party discipline - said it could not comment while there was an ongoing police investigation.

Mr Wragg, the vice-chairman of the 1922 committee of backbench Tory MPs, said he had sent intimate pictures of himself to a man he met on gay dating app Grindr.

"They had compromising things on me. They wouldn't leave me alone.

"They would ask for people. I gave them some numbers, not all of them. I told him to stop. He's manipulated me and now I've hurt other people.

"I got chatting to a guy on an app and we exchanged pictures. We were meant to meet up for drinks, but then didn't. Then he started asking for numbers of people. I was worried because he had stuff on me. He gave me a WhatsApp number, which doesn't work now.


"I've hurt people by being weak. I was scared. I'm mortified. I'm so sorry that my weakness has caused other people hurt."

Mr Wragg became an MP for the Greater Manchester constituency of Hazel Grove in 2015.

In 2022, he announced he would not be running in the next election.

Speaking after his interview with The Times, a former MP who had been targeted by messages from "Charlie" said Mr Wragg's involvement had come as a shock.

"M first reaction is that I feel awful for him. He's a friend, my heart goes out to him and I certainly don't hold any ill-will towards him. I want him to know that."


On Thursday, the former MP, who is gay, told the BBC he was first contacted via WhatsApp on the evening of 11 March.

The message was from a number he did not recognise from someone calling themselves Charlie who claimed to remember them from their time working in Parliament.

"The last part of that message was 'Westminster misses you…' and that was basically something that friends usually do say anyway to make me feel better," he told BBC News.

"I was starting to feel bad actually. I was embarrassed thinking I'm speaking to someone who knows who I am and I'm trying desperately not to come across as rude."

The next message said: "I've just become single so I'm hanging out with the Westminster gays."


The former MP explained he was in a relationship but further flirtatious messages followed.

After "Charlie" sent an explicit image, the former MP blocked him.

But it was only after he read a story on the news website Politico that he realised he had been the subject of what appears to be a coordinated scam.

"My heart did start racing because I thought everything you're saying from the start, from the name of the individual, the familiarity, this is too close to be just a coincidence," the former MP told the BBC.

BBC News has seen messages sent from the same number also from someone calling themselves "Charlie" to a political journalist.


These messages also talk about the recipient being "missed" around Westminster and asking whether the journalist is still single or not.

Conservative MP Bob Seely said he had "great sympathy" for Mr Wragg.

He told BBC Newsnight that the incident is "not the first", adding: "I'm afraid this is part of a modern political life, whether it's honeytraps, cyber-attacks or phishing of some kind or other."

A Parliamentary spokesperson said: "Parliament takes security extremely seriously and works closely with government in response to such incidents.

"We provide members and staff with tailored advice, making them aware of security risks and how to manage their digital safety. We are encouraging anyone affected who has concerns to contact the Parliamentary Security Department."
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Goodbye Horses said:
That's not new, it's just the term for a phishing attack targeted at specific individuals.
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Yeah but the fact that respectable media outlets are using this lingo makes it bad, like the degeneration of the phrase woke which was previously entirely the domain of the DAS RIIITE lot before it was legitimized (which was entirely the fault of Piers Morgan as far as I can tell), if the papers start using it they'll inevitably start misusing it and it'll all filter down to the checkout and I'll have to smile and nod whilst dying inside as Ethel and Frank whinge about their fucking kids getting their phones spearfished.
All part of Satan's plan no doubt.
 
Looks like a new group of protestors has been set up.


RISHI Sunak has condemned pro-Palestine protesters that staged a demonstration outside Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer’s home.


The group, known as Youth Demand, describe themselves as a “new youth resistance campaign fighting for an end to genocide”.
The demonstrators hung a banner outside Starmer's house that read: “Starmer stop the killing” surrounded by red hand prints.
The Metropolitan Police said three people were arrested on Tuesday under Section 42 of the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001, a power designed to “stop the harassment of a person at their home address”.

In a video posted to X, formerly Twitter, Youth Demand called for a two-way arms embargo on Israel, saying that weapons manufactured in the UK were being used to cause genocide.
Protesters then laid rows of children’s shoes in front of the Labour leader’s door, a tactic that has been utilised at a number of pro-Palestine protests to signify children killed in Gaza.

Rishi Sunak, whose own home in North Yorkshire was the target of climate protesters in 2023, said such incidents would not be tolerated.
In a post to X the Prime Minister said: “I don’t care what your politics are, no MP should be harassed at their own home.
“We cannot and will not tolerate this.”
Home Secretary James Cleverly also posted to X, saying: “This is unacceptable. There is no excuse for harassing and intimidating politicians and their families in their homes.”


The Government has been under increasing pressure to publish legal advice it has received in relation to whether Israel is violating international humanitarian law in Gaza, after three British aid workers were killed by Israeli air strikes in the region.

Starmer has called for the Government to publish the advice, with the party’s shadow foreign secretary David Lammy stating arms sales should be halted if there has been a “serious breach” of international law.

In a statement from Youth Demand, one of the participants in the demonstration, student Ella Ward, 21, said: “In normal circumstances it would be seen as crossing a line to show up at someone’s house, but these are not normal circumstances and we can’t continue with business as usual.
“I’m taking action to call on Starmer to commit to stopping the killing.”

Met Deputy Assistant Commissioner Ade Adelekan said: “Politicians and their families should be able to go about their daily lives without feeling threatened or intimidated.
“It’s completely unacceptable for protest to take place in the vicinity of a politician’s home. There are plenty of appropriate places to protest in London, anyone who chooses to target a private home can expect to be dealt with by officers.
“In line with that approach officers have made three arrests today under Section 42 of the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001. This power stops the harassment of a person at their home address if an officer suspects it is causing alarm or distress to the occupant.”
On Monday Youth Demand sprayed Labour’s headquarters with red paint, and later claimed that 11 people had been arrested in relation to that incident.
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Weapons manufactured in the UK have been used to commit many of the world's most legendary genocides. Why is Gaza different? I have noticed a surprising lack of protest outside BAE Systems regarding the conduct of the war in Yemen in recent years.

I am interested to know why children in Gaza have more right to life than children in Yemen, and I am sure people such as Youth Demand will be able to explain that to me. Perhaps they also have some opinions on what is happening to the children of Sudan.
 
isalaide said:
Weapons manufactured in the UK have been used to commit many of the world's most legendary genocides. Why is Gaza different? I have noticed a surprising lack of protest outside BAE Systems regarding the conduct of the war in Yemen in recent years.

I am interested to know why children in Gaza have more right to life than children in Yemen, and I am sure people such as Youth Demand will be able to explain that to me. Perhaps they also have some opinions on what is happening to the children of Sudan.
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You mean, why is Israel being held to different standards than every other country in the world? If only there was a word for that...
 
isalaide said:
I am interested to know why children in Gaza have more right to life than children in Yemen, and I am sure people such as Youth Demand will be able to explain that to me. Perhaps they also have some opinions on what is happening to the children of Sudan.
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Because talking about Gaza gets you social media ass pats and talking about Yemen gets looks of blank confusion.
 
isalaide said:
I am interested to know why children in Gaza have more right to life than children in Yemen
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It could be argued they have less. The ragheads voted in Hamas, and as such are fair game for collective punishment.

Just as sane people see the fire bombing of Dresden as a perfectly acceptable collective punishment on the German people for letting The Nazis come to power, so the slaughter of po’ ol’ Gaza folk can be viewed through the same optics.
 
Big Bingus said:
Bulgarians pocket £50m from taxpayer in Britain’s biggest benefits fraud
sorry if late but why's it always Bulgarians? Also how could they feasibly even do this?
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It is Balkanigger related and you have to ask?
>Galina Nikolova, 38, Stoyan Stoyanov, 27, Tsvetka Todorova, 52, Gyunesh Ali, 33, and Patritsia Paneva, 26
Hmmm
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HMMMMM
At least with ROMAnians it is literally in the name, Bolghars however try to conceal their tvrkroach heritage, but the inner swarthiness of the soul always shines through.
 

Skint Brits hanging up teabags to use again and performing 'sniff test' on worn pants​

Brits appear to be taking cost-cutting methods more seriously than ever from re-using old teabags to cutting our own hair and eating out of date food to save some pennies
Hard-up Brits are hanging teabags on the washing line so they can use them again to save cash.

A shocking study has found skint people are also cutting their own hair, swiping condiment sachets and eating breakfast cereal for dinner in a cost-cutting drive.

More than one in seven - some 15% - leave teabags out to dry so they can use them more than once, revealed the survey of 2,012 UK adults by vouchercodes.co.uk.

Women are more likely to hang out teabags to dry with 16% confessing to the habit - compared to 14% of fellas. The practice is most rife among over-55s, with almost a fifth of the age group (19%) reusing bags multiple times, while for Brits aged 45 to 54, the figure drops to 18%, and 15% for 35 to 44-year-olds.

Younger people are the least likely to use old teabags again, with just 7% of Gen Z (18 to 24-year-olds) and only 9% of Brits aged 25 to 34 doing it. Meanwhile almost a third of us have turned to DIY crimping to avoid costly trips to the barber or hairdresser.

And the same number nab complimentary pouches of ketchup, mustard and mayo from eateries, so they can dodge forking out for supermarket bottles. More than a quarter admit eating up random combinations of food to limit buying more groceries or munching on out-of-date produce.

Almost as many sniff their dirty laundry to see if they can wear stale clothes again, while 13% don pants an extra day to escape putting a machine on.

Meanwhile some 24% chow down on cornflakes for their evening meal as a cheaper alternative to a pricey cooked feast and 17% dilute the washing up liquid to make doing the dishes more cost-effective.

The website’s savings expert Anita Naik said: “We’ve all had the hard-hitting realisation when we’re only halfway through the month and our bank funds aren’t looking too healthy.However, our research shows that people are getting more creative with the ways in which they save money around the house.“

It appears a whopping 15% of the population have attempted to save a few pennies by reusing their teabags.“It seems the old trick of squeezing every last bit out of the bag could be making a comeback as Brits look for quirky and creative ways to save cash.”

Residents of Aberdeen are the biggest penny-pinchers with 92% attempting unorthodox methods to cut costs, followed by folk from Sheffield (87%) and Cardiff (85%).Brits aged 25 to 34 are the most stingy with 87% indulging in money-saving fiddles - compared to 69% of over-55s.
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