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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I do t know why but this is just funny. It’s a bit like something from ‘three lions.’
‘Ok Ahmed spray paint the mice.’
‘Why do I have to paint the bloody mice why can’t Ahmed do it?’
‘Ok Ahmed YOU paint the micr.’
(Cut to dopey looking Ahmed 2 spray painting the mice.)

By the way, I highly recommend any Kiwis reading this thread go watch Four Lions immediately. I'm not exaggerating when I say it's one of the funniest movies ever made.
 
This issue could legitimately lose the election for Labour. Keir is under attack from his Muslim MPs, councillors and lefty Momentum activist base who are all screeching at him to support Palestine under the threat of them resigning, but if he does that then the old allegations of antisemitism that did Corbyn in will resurface and he will take a beating in the polls from the public who will see him as giving in to radical Islamists. It's the sort of issue, like Brexit and the tranny shit, that you can't really fence-sit on without pissing off a lot of people, and the sort of thing the Tories could exploit by labelling him as sympathetic towards Islamists.
 
This issue could legitimately lose the election for Labour.
Unfortunately this Kier is handling well. He's following the same line as Rishi and co. of refusing to tell Israel to stop murdering civilians but he is also not demanding any of his MPs fall in line unless they go all in on offering resignations if he refuses to comply.

So the extremists are taking themselves out by putting their positions on the line when he won't give them the support they want and those with enough political savvy to pander to their voter base can pretend Labour absolutely support their personal view but just can't say it too loudly.

Kier is, through his MPs, pandering to extremist Hamas supporters and people that want Israel to kill or displace anyone with brown skin in Gaza as well as a lot of people in between those two. It'd be admirable were it not so disgusting he's reminding me of Biden.

Exactly what you'd expect from someone with his track record.
 
This issue could legitimately lose the election for Labour.
Unfortunately not, it's more likely to help him: he can claim he has tamed the excesses of his party, just like Blair did. He can safely ignore the "anti-Zionists" in his party, as they've nowhere to go. Just this week the party registration for the "Party of Islam" was rejected, for reasons which aren't entirely clear.

Lady Starmer is also Jewish, which will likely keep him from flip-flopping.
 

Poppy seller veteran, 78, tells how he was punched by pro-Palestine protesters as he fundraised at Scottish station that was besieged by demonstrators... as leaders of the Gaza march set for Armistice Day REFUSE a police appeal to cancel (Archive)

A poppy seller caught up in a pro-Palestine rally said he was punched and kicked by a mob of protesters.

Jim Henderson, who served with the Army in Northern Ireland, was set upon while manning a stall at Edinburgh's Waverley Station.

Social media footage shows the 78-year-old – in his distinctive red beret – trying to escape. But the attack ended only when railway staff shoved the demonstrators away. About 1,200 had descended on the station to protest against Israeli attacks in Gaza.

Police chiefs yesterday urged organisers to postpone another pro-Palestine protest, in London on Armistice Day.

Following Saturday's ordeal, Mr Henderson said: 'I was getting shoved backwards, in danger of falling, and one of them stood on my foot and split my toe.

'So I thought I had got to get the money out of here. So I went down, and as I bent down someone punched me in the back. And then I got another punch in my side.'

He said that he managed to get up and was rescued by three ladies in red railway uniforms. 'I've never known anything like it,' he said.

'Chanting. Saying it's all about the British Government, British people, Jews.'

Mr Henderson, who told the Mail he served in the Royal Corps of Signals, 32 Signal Regiment during the Troubles, insisted that he was attacked on purpose: 'You don't do that, and kick someone from behind and that was when I couldn't get out of the way. That's when I bent down and...bang.'

Cries of 'ceasefire now' and 'Free Palestine' drowned out rail service announcements during the demonstration.

Other protesters blew whistles, waved Palestinian flags and held up placards.

It was not the only example of poppy sellers being intimidated over the weekend. Several at Charing Cross station in London were surrounded by a gang of protesters.

Veterans minister Johnny Mercer said the poppy was not a political symbol and the protesters should have made their arguments elsewhere 'without appearing to try to intimidate ordinary citizens trying to collect a bit of cash'.

Police eventually had to close Waverley Station while the protest there took place.

In another incident, an individual was arrested for broadcasting anti-Semitic comments in London. And four officers were injured near Trafalgar Square by masked activists who aimed fireworks at them.

Scotland Yard bosses have called for the protest on this Saturday's Armistice Day to be called off amid concerns that splinter groups intent on violence will clash with counter-protesters and cause chaos in the centre of the capital.

Home Secretary Suella Braverman welcomed the Met's stance, doubling down on her description of the demonstrators as 'hate marchers' and describing their behaviour as 'thuggish'.

But it appears the demonstration, organised by the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and other partners, will go ahead – marking five consecutive weekends of action.

Rishi Sunak's spokesman said: 'To plan these sorts of protests in and around Armistice Day is provocative, it's disrespectful.

'Should memorials be desecrated or should we see some of the instances of racial hatred for which there were arrests at the weekend be expressed on these days, I think that would be an affront to the British public.'

Israel's president, Isaac Herzog, whose father fought in the British Army during the Second World War and helped liberate the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, also criticised the planned march.

'I call upon all decent human beings to object to the march and ban it,' he told TalkTV. 'Because the symbol of that day is a symbol of victory and it's a symbol of doing good. Because when you fight evil, sometimes you have to fight. You have to fight evil in order to uproot evil.'

Scotland's SNP first minister Humza Yousaf insisted it was unacceptable to describe the pro-Palestinian events as hate marches and said he supported the march in London going ahead.

Scotland Yard says it has seen an escalation in violence linked to the protests and has made more than 160 arrests related to the Hamas-Israel conflict since October 7. Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley has the option to write to the Home Secretary and ask her to approve a ban on a protest if there is a risk of serious disorder.

The force has so far decided against this course of action, though it remains open if attempts to broker a compromise with organisers remain unsuccessful.

Deputy assistant commissioner Ade Adelekan last night repeated pleas to leaders to reconsider.

'The risk of violence and disorder linked to breakaway groups is growing,' he said. 'This is of concern ahead of a significant and busy weekend. Our message to organisers is clear: Please, we ask you to urgently reconsider. It is not appropriate to hold any protests in London this weekend.'

Organisers of the Armistice Day march have pledged to keep the route away from Whitehall and the Cenotaph, and will not commence the demonstration until 12.45pm.

That is almost two hours after the holding of the two-minute silence to commemorate soldiers killed in the First World War and other conflicts.

The planned route will take them from Hyde Park – about a mile from the Cenotaph – to the US embassy in Vauxhall, south of the Thames. But there are fears groups could splinter from the main crowd and clash with Right-wing counter-protesters who plan to surround the Cenotaph.

Mrs Braverman met police chiefs yesterday to discuss how forces should respond should protests continue in the coming weeks.

The meeting – also attended by security minister Tom Tugendhat, police minister Chris Philp and ministers from the justice and defence departments – looked at the 'risk of further escalation'. It focused in particular on how police officers should respond, coming after Sir Mark in recent weeks called for greater police powers.

The Mail reported last week that Mrs Braverman had ordered a review of terrorism and extremism laws that could lead to broader powers to control pro-Palestinian demonstrators.

New work by the Home Office will consider whether legislation may be required to bridge the gap between countering hate speech and dealing with terrorism.

However any changes would be unlikely to reach the statute book by the end of next year.

The Festival of Remembrance at the Royal Albert Hall, which is usually attended by members of the Royal Family, will take place on Saturday, with a two-minute silence at 11am.

Remembrance Sunday events will take place at the Cenotaph in Whitehall the following day.

Mr Henderson was a volunteer for Poppyscotland, which said: 'While we respect the rights of people to protest within the law, the safety and welfare of our volunteers is of paramount importance.

'Our volunteer is safe and well, and we thank those that took the time to escort him out of the station.'
 
I'm curious to see what happens if they do kick off. As pozzed and shit as London is the kind of people who turn out to these things (not to mention the actual veterans there), tend to take a dim view of people being cunts about them. A couple of years ago some dickhead squatting near the cenotaph in Salford decided to disrupt the 2 minutes silence by launching fireworks, then had to rely on the police to protect him because people were trying to break down the door or scale the building to get in and kick the shit out of him.
 
I'm curious to see what happens if they do kick off. As pozzed and shit as London is the kind of people who turn out to these things (not to mention the actual veterans there), tend to take a dim view of people being cunts about them. A couple of years ago some dickhead squatting near the cenotaph in Salford decided to disrupt the 2 minutes silence by launching fireworks, then had to rely on the police to protect him because people were trying to break down the door or scale the building to get in and kick the shit out of him.
Nothing. I'd put money they kill or seriously injure someone in London this weekend and police will visit anyone who comments on it on social media.
 
Nothing. I'd put money they kill or seriously injure someone in London this weekend and police will visit anyone who comments on it on social media.
I don't know, even the rozzers can't be think enough to think that suppressing criticism of remembrance day disruption is the correct decision.

I do know this: Whatever response the government has to this parade, Labour will say it's bad and immediately demand the opposite. We may even end up in a situation where Starmer is demanding jackbooted thugs arrest every pro-palestine supporter in sight after the government capitulates to them. That'll be funny.
 
I don't know, even the rozzers can't be think enough to think that suppressing criticism of remembrance day disruption is the correct decision.
The criticism will be "they need to be sent back to their own countries." The police response will be "that's racist." and the usual louses will crawl out of the woodwork to aid the crackdown on wrong think.
I do know this: Whatever response the government has to this parade, Labour will say it's bad and immediately demand the opposite. We may even end up in a situation where Starmer is demanding jackbooted thugs arrest every pro-palestine supporter in sight after the government capitulates to them. That'll be funny.
Almost certainly. But since Suella and co. already have called them hate marches I doubt Kier will be doing that. Naturally Hamza Yousaf has already said that these marches are completely acceptable no matter what they do.
 
Not exactly national news, but a local story. Found out about this as it happened as I was in Horsforth at the time, and was told that traffic had been diverted. Not really sure the specifics of the event, though my assumption is that it was a high-school gang thing, as there are a surprising number of high-school knife gangs operating around this area. A cousin of mine got sent away by his mother as he was being threatened by some lads with a machete.

If only the WYP had the resources to deal with this sort of thing... But I suppose their time is better spent sucking cock and protecting nonces.

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EDIT: There was also (what I assume was) a stabbing in Huddersfield last weekend. I was walking along saying to my girlfriend that "Huh, Huddersfield looks alright, given that it's so close to Bradfordistan", then we turned a corner and saw a kebab shop with police tape around it, a couple of sweeney outside, and a large pool of blood on the pavement. Boy did I feel silly.
 
Rochdale's had their cenotaph defaced. Twice.

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Police officers are guarding Rochdale Cenotaph after two incidents at the war memorial, which saw graffiti sprayed and a number of poppy wreaths damaged.

Greater Manchester Police (GMP) have stationed police community support officers by the cenotaph, which the force said is “currently a crime scene”.

An incident on Monday led to two teenagers, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, being charged with intentionally or recklessly causing public nuisance.

Rochdale Borough Council said on X, formerly Twitter, that it “removed and replaced a number of damaged poppy wreaths” after the incident.

The council also referenced a second incident at the Cenotaph which it said occurred on Tuesday afternoon and involved graffiti being sprayed on the war memorial. The local authority labelled it “totally unacceptable”.

The response to the second incident, which was reported shortly after 4pm on Tuesday, is ongoing, police said.

GMP did not give any further details but social media posts showed “Free Palestine” sprayed on the monument.

The council posted on X: “We are proud of our strong links with our armed forces community. Our war memorials and monuments are incredibly important and should be respected by everyone at all times.”

The Rochdale memorial was designed by Sir Edwin Lutyens, who also designed the Cenotaph on Whitehall, which is the site of the National Service of Remembrance every November.

The central London memorial has featured in wider debate about whether a pro-Palestinian march in the city on Saturday should go ahead, with organisers pledging to avoid the war memorial.

The Metropolitan Police have urged protest organisers not to hold demonstrations on Armistice Day or Remembrance Sunday amid concerns about breakaway groups causing violence.


Chief Superintendent Nicky Porter, GMP Rochdale district commander, said: “We join communities across Rochdale in being deeply saddened by the incidents at the Cenotaph – the memorial is a particularly poignant reminder of those who have given their lives to our country, particularly at this time year.


“We will not tolerate the criminal disrespect of the town’s Memorial Gardens and I hope the action we have already taken in response to these two incidents reassures our communities of that.”

She continued: “Whilst the area is regularly monitored by CCTV operators and passing patrols, the partnership is working to sustain increased protection at this time.


“We have Police Community Support Officers at the scene at the moment and we will be looking to put lasting measures in place over the coming hours and days.


“We don’t underestimate the impact these events will have on our community of veterans, and I will be personally engaging with them and other community groups throughout this week.”


Anyone with information about Tuesday’s incident in Rochdale is asked to contact GMP quoting 1294 07/11/23 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.
 
Apologies for the double post but given every news outlet is screaming about this one it seemed worth posting. Looks like the media is pretending Suella and potentially the Tories as a whole have just bet it all on violence this weekend. Instead she produced a fairly open article where she used the exact same methods the opposition use where they avoid saying it outright and instead claim there is a perception or impression of the thing. How very dare she.

Writing in The Times, Ms Braverman accused the force of applying a "double standard" to its policing of protests.
She claimed aggressive right-wing protesters were "rightly met with a stern response", while "pro-Palestinian mobs" were "largely ignored".
Her comments have been condemned by former police officers and MPs.
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is facing calls to sack Ms Braverman, with Labour accusing the home secretary of undermining police independence and "deliberately creating division".
One senior Conservative MP told the BBC: "The home secretary's awfulness is now a reflection on the prime minister. Keeping her in post is damaging him."

But the home secretary's allies on the right of the Conservative Party have defended her and argued that a pro-Palestinian march planned for Saturday in central London should not have been allowed to go ahead.
Conservative MP Danny Kruger denied Ms Braverman was interfering, and said she was entitled to comment on the "broader culture of police".


Ms Braverman's comments came after Prime Minister Rishi Sunak held a meeting with Met Police commissioner Sir Mark Rowley to discuss security ahead of Saturday's March, which falls on Armistice Day.
Neither Mr Sunak or Ms Braverman have publicly called for the police to ban Saturday's march, but the prime minister has urged organisers to call it off, saying the choice of date was "provocative and disrespectful".
In an article for The Times, the home secretary claimed that there was "a perception that senior officers play favourites when it comes to protesters".
The home secretary said the pro-Palestinian marches, which began last month in response to Israel's siege of Gaza, had been "problematic" because of "violence around the fringes" as well as "highly offensive" chants, posters and stickers.
"Right-wing and nationalist protesters who engage in aggression are rightly met with a stern response yet pro-Palestinian mobs displaying almost identical behaviour are largely ignored, even when clearly breaking the law," she wrote.
The BBC has been told Mr Sunak's team suggested amendments to the home secretary's draft, but not all of them were applied to the eventual article published last night.
A government source told the BBC: "We are not commenting on internal process."

There have been regular protests in London after Hamas gunmen launched an unprecedented assault on Israel from the Gaza Strip on 7 October, killing more than 1,400 people and taking more than 200 hostages.
Israel has been carrying out strikes on Gaza since then in response, and has now also launched a ground offensive. More than 10,500 people have been killed in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run health ministry.
London's police force has faced increasing pressure to prevent Saturday's pro-Palestinian march from going ahead.
But Sir Mark has said it may only be stopped if there is a threat of serious disorder, and that the "very high threshold" has not been reached.
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Plenty of the home secretary's colleagues agree with Ms Braverman on the substance of her article, but they are frustrated by repeatedly having to defend - or distance themselves from - her rhetoric.
One government figure told the BBC Ms Braverman's intervention was "unhinged".
Labour's shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper described it as a "dangerous attempt to undermine respect for police", while London mayor Sadiq Khan said it was "irresponsible".
"The PM's weakness when it comes to standing up to Suella is the most shocking thing in all this," claimed a senior Labour source.
Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey said Mr Sunak "must finally act with integrity by sacking his out-of-control home secretary".
"Suella Braverman is now putting police officers in harm's way ahead of far right protesters flocking to the capital this weekend," Sir Ed said.
He said her remarks demonstrated the "increasing politicisation of policing", and how the march is handled should be an operational matter for officers.

In her article, Ms Braverman wrote that she believed the marches were not "merely a cry for help for Gaza", but an "assertion of primacy by certain groups - particularly Islamists - of the kind we are more used to seeing in Northern Ireland".
A source close to the home secretary told the BBC the comment was a reference to the activities of "dissident republicans".
Responding to the article, one Conservative Party source called the comparison with Northern Ireland "wholly offensive and ignorant".
Ms Braverman also questioned why "lockdown objectors were given no quarter by public order police yet Black Lives Matters demonstrators were enabled, allowed to break rules".
"I have spoken to serving and former police officers who have noted this double standard," the home secretary wrote.
Former cabinet minister Nadine Dorries claimed Ms Braverman was trying to get sacked to give her a platform of martyrdom in service of the right-wing.
"The competition is on now for who is going to be the leader of the opposition," Ms Dorries told the BBC.
And because it's there and it and bears mentioning
More than 10,500 people have been killed in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run health ministry.
The BBC will repeat Hamas propaganda as fact. Treat all their coverage accordingly.
 
Instead she produced a fairly open article where she used the exact same methods the opposition use where they avoid saying it outright and instead claim there is a perception or impression of the thing. How very dare she.
She said literally nothing wrong. Anyone with eyes can see.
 
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