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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I don't know if this is worth mentioning/watching but this seemed like the place to do so. I'll be keeping an eye on the whole thing so if you want to hear updates let me know.

A bit of background, UCL (University college London) is the largest postgraduate university in the UK, based in Bloomsbury, London. It is infested with leftists and the like at a rate even higher than most Universities. The students union even offering "Marx tours" where student are shown round where Marx did some of his work with a very biased telling of him and his work.

So being both full of international students and lefties the latest Israel/Palestinie conflict has sent them crazy (this isnt going to be about the conflict and there are plenty of other places to debate it on here, it is just the context).

It started out with protests, which decended into chanting "intifada until victory" and graffiti of the same vein being sprayed on the main university building. This got the following response from the chancellor on October 12th

As a consequence of the terrorist attacks by Hamas on Israel and Israel’s military response, many people in our community are in pain, grieving over the terrible suffering already inflicted and fearful of what will come next.

To my disgust, antisemitic incidents are spiking across the UK, and our campus is not immune. This week we have seen some entirely unacceptable images and graffiti at UCL and posts on social media. I want to send a message in the clearest and strongest possible terms that any instances of antisemitism, Islamophobia and any other form of racism, prejudice, abuse or harassment in our community will be treated with the utmost seriousness. I urge anyone who experiences or witnesses unacceptable behaviour to report it. It is also important for everyone in our community to be fully aware that Hamas is a proscribed terrorist organisation in the UK, meaning that expressions of support for Hamas and its activities may be a criminal offence.

But beyond disciplinary or legal implications, I am appealing to everyone in our community to act with compassion and understanding, to be aware of the pain of others and to choose words and actions that avoid making it worse. I hope that, as communities gather to understand what is happening in Israel and Gaza and debate the meaning and the potential consequences, we will all do so in a tone that is mindful of the distress that is being felt by so many in our community. Thank you to everyone for supporting students and staff affected by this terrible violence, and thank you for supporting each other.

Thank you to everyone for supporting students and staff affected by this terrible violence, and thank you for supporting each other.

Of course this did nothing to calm anything. With the chancellor again asking for calm of the 25th and saying they aren't about to start calling for gassing the Jews.

The Marxist society (which of course was thing the union had), served further posting up various posters, again shouting for conflict. This got them suspended and probably yeeted from the union

Marxist society at a Russell Group university faces being shut down after putting up anti-Israel posters that “call for violence”.

The far-Left student group at University College London (UCL) caused outcry by calling for “intifada until victory”, a slogan referring to Palestinian uprisings against Israeli occupation.

It was scrawled on posters with “the fight for a free Palestine” and placed on tree trunks around campus, next to an image of a soldier pointing a gun at someone waving a Palestinian flag.

The Union of Jewish Students (UJS) said it was a “thinly veiled call for violence” that “celebrates and promotes the murderous actions of the proscribed terrorist group Hamas” and called for action from universities amid an increase in anti-Semitic incidents.

UCL students’ union has now suspended its Marxist group, which could lead to it being shut down.

A spokesman said: “We took immediate action to suspend the Marxist Society after the group refused to remove advertising material that we deemed had the potential to be construed as inciting violence.

And then the chancellor put out another statement

Since my previous email on 12 October, I have received a number of responses asking that UCL expresses a clear partisan position on the violence and conflict affecting Israel and Palestine. My response is that it would be entirely wrong for UCL as an institution to do so. UCL is a large, diverse community and therefore a place containing a wide diversity of opinions, experiences and perspectives. A university should be a forum for engagement, enabling views, even passionately held and strongly conflicting views, to be expressed and debated in as constructive and considered a way as possible. The university itself should never be a participant in debate outside matters directly concerning higher education since, should it become so, the freedom to express contrary views is inevitably inhibited. A vital job of the institution is to uphold freedom of speech within the law for everyone in our community without fear or favour. Alongside Students' Union UCL, we are ensuring that activities and events run securely and that all speech is enabled provided it is within the law.

At a time when feelings are incredibly raw and when we are witnessing such terrible human suffering, it is really important that people are able to come together to discuss what is happening and what it means, to voice opinions and to organise activities that feel meaningful. I ask again that, as we all respond in our own way to the terrible events, we do so with awareness that this is an excruciating time for many of the people around us. I hope that, even though this is a sharply divisive and deeply emotional situation, we will all recognise and care about the pain of others, even if we disagree with them.

Now the bit that's really kicked this up the gears, om 27th October the UCL branch of the university colleges union (hyper lefty union made up of academics and research students) passed the following resolution

UCL UCU resolves:

To reaffirm its solidarity with the struggle of the Palestinian people against occupation and for national self-determination.

To call on its members to mobilise and campaign – through mass direct action – against companies, banks, and institutions that aid the manufacture and delivery of arms to Israel.

To condemn the British government’s support for the Israeli state and the distortions of the mainstream media in Britain in its coverage of this conflict.

To reaffirm the commitment to organise and support local rallies in solidarity with Palestine.

To submit this motion to UCU Congress and call on it to publicly oppose British imperialism’s role in the oppression of the Palestinian people.

To call for a Socialist Federation of the Middle East -- Intifada until victory!

Which is obviously a fucking retarded thing to put out as an official statement from an organisation. It has seen their membership and support drop significantly across all groups, with many of their (ex)members saying what the fuck.

The university responded to this on 31st October with the below

A UCL spokesperson said: "Our local branch of the national Universities and Colleges Union (UCU), passed a series of incoherent and disturbing motions on Friday.

While they ‘condemn all forms of violence’ and note that the 'deliberate killing of civilians is always an atrocity’, they also use language that clearly incites indiscriminate violence.

"We wholly condemn this incitement to violence, have called on the local branch to withdraw the statement, and have written to Dr Jo Grady, the General Secretary of the national UCU to take action against the local branch. Language such as this has no place on a university campus."

Obviously that's where we're up to now but the fall out from this could get juicy and the retards at the union are on a fast track to getting kicked, not even Reddit or Facebook comments on any of this are supporting the union...
 
Nobody posted this one yet?
I do t know why but this is just funny. It’s a bit like something from ‘three lions.’
‘Ok Ahmed spray paint the mice.’
‘Why do I have to paint the bloody mice why can’t Ahmed do it?’
‘Ok Ahmed YOU paint the micr.’
(Cut to dopey looking Ahmed 2 spray painting the mice.)
I feel really bad regarding those mice... I wish I could rescue all of them...

By the by, is no the reason why Maus had mice represent non-Israeli Jews is because Jews were compared to mice i Nazi propaganda?
 
@Otterly I don't know why I said that about Michaela Strachen. Vague impressions of an energetic blonde in khaki shorts upon my pre-adolescent mind, I think. Did an image search and boy does the memory play tricks!
Your mind didn't lie, your modern eyes did. Michaela was a smoking hotty back in the day and it was her personality (and little hot pants) that made her so attractive.

Like how Nigella Lawson is attractive, but then you watch her bake bread and her personality makes her coomer-bait levels of hot.
 
Star City, the place where the RatDonalds is, is a very large shit hole inhabited by...drum roll...pakis. Thousands of them.
It's not the only reason it's a shit hole; it's also in a Birmingham, which will, one day, hopefully be the landing pad of a very large asteroid.
True. I always play the Sopranos opening theme whenever I drive through on the M6.
 
Your mind didn't lie, your modern eyes did. Michaela was a smoking hotty back in the day and it was her personality (and little hot pants) that made her so attractive.

Like how Nigella Lawson is attractive, but then you watch her bake bread and her personality makes her coomer-bait levels of hot.
Keith Chegwin used to have a show where he surprised people for some reason and he was asked if the reactions were actually real or if they were planned out. He said all of them were real except two. The first was some dude on an oil rig where they came into his room and there was a stack of porn mags and a box of tissues and it had been so obvious what he'd been doing they had no choice but to go again and ask him to be "surprised". And the other was when they did Michaela Strachen. Her boyfriend let Cheggers and his crew in when they rang the bell and she was stark naked in the kitchen. And apparently cheerfully fine about it all!

I rescind my position. Now I see the old pics again, yep - I was right with my childhood memories. Happy days!
 
Star City, the place where the RatDonalds is, is a very large shit hole inhabited by...drum roll...pakis. Thousands of them.
It's not the only reason it's a shit hole; it's also in a Birmingham, which will, one day, hopefully be the landing pad of a very large asteroid.
The McDonald's/franchise owners are probably Muslim as well (like with KFC and Subway) So double whammy
 
I mean makes sense. What would you rather?
Arrest the angry violent mobs calling for the death of people and die when they cave your head in.
Or
Arrest the person who points out the clear issue and how stupid everything has become?
Remove the danger from the person or the person from the danger. Whichever is easiest, basic workplace safety. Doesn't make it right, just safest.
 
Suck the girldick ladies.


A feminist group has lost a court appeal over the legal definition of the word woman.

Campaigners For Women Scotland (FWS) raised concerns over the definition of the word “women” in the Gender Representation on Public Boards Act 2018, saying that the use of the term was an attempt to override the Equality Act 2010 back in 2021.

The legislation, which was passed two years ago, aimed to increase the number of women on public boards.


In the Act, they used the term “woman” to represent both born women and trans women, or those who “live as women”, which FWS says was legally incompetent.

For Women Scotland argues that trans women are biologically male, and should be recognised as such in the equality act.

But the inner house of the Court of Session has thrown out the challenge, arguing that a person with a gender recognition certificate (GRC) is legally their acquired gender and possesses both the protected characteristic of gender reassignment and of sex.

On Wednesday, the Lord Justice Clerk, Lord Malcolm and Lord Pentland refused the motion on the basis that the guidance did not conflate two separate protected characteristics.

The ruling read: “A person with a GRC in their acquired gender possesses the protected characteristic of gender reassignment for the purposes of section 7 (of the Equalities Act).

“Separately, for the purposes of section 11 they also possess the protected characteristic of sex according to the terms of their GRC.”

However, the judges also held that people without a GRC retain the sex in which they were born.

The ruling added: “A person with a GRC in the female gender comes within the definition of ‘woman’ for the purposes of section 11 of the EA, and the guidance issued in respect of the 2018 Act is lawful.

“The reclaiming motion is refused.”

The debate surrounding trans rights in Scotland has been tense over the last few months.

But Scottish Greens MSP Maggie Chapman said the ruling was “welcome” and an “important day for trans rights”.

She said: “Trans women are women, and have been subjected to some of the most appalling bigotry and prejudice as part of a culture war that has been knowingly and purposefully stoked by some politicians and media.

“With anti-trans hate crimes soaring and the UK government actively rolling back rights and using an anti-democratic veto against the gender reform that our Parliament overwhelmingly voted for, a lot of trans people are feeling attacked like never before.”

Meanwhile, a statement on the For Women Scotland website read: “Naturally, we are hugely disappointed in today’s judgment, which has ruled that women’s protections under law may – in some cases – include men who have obtained a GRC.

“We are obviously still analysing the decision and will be speaking to our legal team in due course to consider the possibility of a further challenge.

“Many thanks to all those who have donated and supported us.”
 
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