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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I just don't understand the endgoal. I mean obviously both Labour and the Tories are all controlled anyway, but if Starmer came out with right-on-social issues and left-on-economics it would probably be the largest Labour landslide victory in British history. But I'm going to bet that he's going to piss it all away, not that he hasn't basically done it already, and the Tories are going to win once again.
He comes across as an opportunist with no integrity and the Corbyn branch still in charge in the background.
It looks like both sides are doing their best to lose.
 
The BBC are being the Bias Broadcasting Company yet again

They refused to call HAMAS terrorists because that would be "picking a side" and they "want to report on the facts with impartiality" lol, my sides.

The conflict is refered to as the israel-gaza conflict. Hamas are militants, not terrorists, and their articles slant towards Israel being the big mean civilian killers, when there's no mention of those murdered in cold blood for dancing.

I'm just waiting for the article or reported that goes full antisemitism against Israel, for the bbc tax money to be finally shut down.
 
Well of course. All those new rules they introduced about broadcasting were essentialy to protect the BBC from any and all blowback. They can now quitely fire people for breaking their new policy while not having to address the obvious bias of their organisation
In fairness it's not the first or last time the individual experiences consequences and the BBC does not, or at least nowhere near enough for what they enable.

I'm not going to post a Saville image. We know who the default name is for remarks like that.
 
In fairness it's not the first or last time the individual experiences consequences and the BBC does not, or at least nowhere near enough for what they enable.

I'm not going to post a Saville image. We know who the default name is for remarks like that.
That’s what made me laugh when i heard that offcom person in charges of these new rules being asked ‘what if the bbc falls fowl of these rules?’ by a member of the bbc despite these new rules having just been explained as being put in because of Gary Linicker’s statments on Twitter.
The reply was ‘one expects the bbc to have better standards of reporters so that won’t happen’

The BBCs talent is now so bad they clearly aren’t aware when the higher ups are all but shouting ‘we put these rules in place because you were being retarded and clearly bias, please take the fucking hint already for the love of god’
 
Sorry to bump this thread again with no news.

Has anyone noticed those body cams in supermarkets? I went into my local sainsbury's, which i've visited for a few months and no cams. Walked in yesterday and everyone is wearing them. Doesn't the CCTV work well enough? Why the need for body cams?

And what's with Items that require ID nowadays? A 4 pack of sparkling grapefruit juice requires me to prove I'm over 25? Why?
 
Sorry to bump this thread again with no news.

Has anyone noticed those body cams in supermarkets? I went into my local sainsbury's, which i've visited for a few months and no cams. Walked in yesterday and everyone is wearing them. Doesn't the CCTV work well enough? Why the need for body cams?
Because YOUTH keep attacking the staff whilst they are robbing the store chains, and what's worse is that the police do absolutely nothing, so the bodycams are likely the result of the stores covering their asses for when another chimpout occurs, and another underpaid worker gets put on disability.
 
Because YOUTH keep attacking the staff whilst they are robbing the store chains, and what's worse is that the police do absolutely nothing, so the bodycams are likely the result of the stores covering their asses for when another chimpout occurs, and another underpaid worker gets put on disability.
That's the reason I hear, but every store has CCTV covering every square inch of it, usually with a security man looking at a monitor near the entrance/exit.

Why the need for body cams if it's all already caught on camera?
 
So, two more by-elections, two more absolute fucking moggings for the Tories.

Nadine Dorries' former seat of Mid-Bedfordshire was won by Labour by 1200 votes. May not sound so bad except for the fact that:
a)This had been a safe Tory seat since the 1931
b)To get that 1k majority meant overturning a 24k Tory majority, which is apparently the biggest overturning of a Tory majority in a by-election since 1945

Bum Chris Pincher's former seat of Tamworth was also won by Labour by about 1300 votes. Again not huge on paper, til you realize this also involved overturning a ~20k majority.
 
So, two more by-elections, two more absolute fucking moggings for the Tories.

Nadine Dorries' former seat of Mid-Bedfordshire was won by Labour by 1200 votes. May not sound so bad except for the fact that:
a)This had been a safe Tory seat since the 1931
b)To get that 1k majority meant overturning a 24k Tory majority, which is apparently the biggest overturning of a Tory majority in a by-election since 1945
Big swing to lib Dems and a surprisingly large vote for an independent candidate. I said this is what would happen. Labour are benefiting from Tory voters voting for anyone else, or just refusing to turn up. It'll be interesting to see how they fare in the seats they turned in the labour heartlands. I suspect they're going to throw up some big surprises.
 
Nadine Dorries' former seat of Mid-Bedfordshire was won by Labour by 1200 votes. May not sound so bad except for the fact that:
a)This had been a safe Tory seat since the 1931
b)To get that 1k majority meant overturning a 24k Tory majority, which is apparently the biggest overturning of a Tory majority in a by-election since 1945

Bum Chris Pincher's former seat of Tamworth was also won by Labour by about 1300 votes. Again not huge on paper, til you realize this also involved overturning a ~20k majority.
It's expected and impressive right up until people start digging in. @teriyakiburns already noted some of it but to put it in context (I know Wikipedia is the devil but numbers are numbers)


Last election for Mid-Bedfordshire 64,000 people turned out to vote. This time 40,000 did. Last time Conservatives got 38,00 votes. This time 12,000. Both times Labour got around 14,000 but still less votes this time than last.
Labour have lost votes. The Conservatives have lost about 26,000 votes and about 24,000 fewer people turned out.

To put that Labour majority independent candidate got 1,800 votes up about 1,000 since last election and over 10% of Labour's total winning majority. Reform UK, a new party that the media has attempted to destroy as clearly Nazis also got over 10% of Labour's winning majority even if only just and got double the Green votes with no previous results to compare against because they are that new.


Similar with Tamworth. Last year turnout was 46,000, this time 26,000. Conservatives had 30,000 votes last year and this year 10,000. Labour again lost votes though a number only in the hundreds and while independents did not get the same success UKIP, who are functionally dead as a political party, were only a bit over hundred votes behind the Greens who the news treat as being as close to the Liberal Democrats as parties of the future.

Labour won here. But in both if a little over half the voters too disgusted to vote this time compared to the last gave their votes to the same party that would have beaten Conservatives and Labour. Both of them should be shitting their over-priced pants
 
I wouldn't read too much into the turnout figures, they're fairly unremarkable for by-elections.

The Conservatives would have won in Tamworth had all the Reform voters voted Tory instead, and I expect that's really going to spook the Government. Expect a change in policy of some sort, just like they toned down the green stuff after Uxbridge.
 
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