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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[indigoisviolet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewsbury#Ethnic_groups

I love the picture of the bus station, like they couldn't find anything else to point a camera at.

That linked paragraph was surprising, yet cleared up the mystery.

 

[KorokiKokoro]

Parliament is going to debate that petition about a general election on the 17th. Personally I cannot see this going anywhere, especially considering how snap elections are called now.

 

[Coolio55]

I'm not sure why there's this constant vicious hot potato where everyone tries to hand off responsibility to someone else. They won't be finger wagged let alone actually punished.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Tomato soup thrown over Vincent Van Gogh's famous Sunflowers painting

They also glued themselves to the wall.

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Eco wankers at it again, throwing soup on a Van Gogh painting to protest oil and gas exploration (fortunately it's protected by glass). I genuinely don't get the faggots in the gallery who just stand there and watch like cucks, you have the perfect chance to not only twat a hippie, but be hailed as a fucking hero for doing it.

 

[Snekposter]

Tomato soup thrown over Vincent Van Gogh's famous Sunflowers painting

They also glued themselves to the wall.

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Eco wankers at it again, throwing soup on a Van Gogh painting to protest oil and gas exploration (fortunately it's protected by glass). I genuinely don't get the faggots in the gallery who just stand there and watch like cucks, you have the perfect chance to not only twat a hippie, but be hailed as a fucking hero for doing it.

Unfortunately those "hippies" are rich twats who probably have the family lawyer on speed dial.

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

Trainee doctors told not to quiz patients on transgender status and 'respect and affirm their gender identity’ instead​

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• Trainee doctors will be taught to affirm patients who say they are transgender
• Three quarters of UK medical schools signed the charter promoting the teaching
• A review warned puberty blockers and hormones were the go-to treatment

Trainee doctors are being taught to unquestioningly accept patients are transgender if they self-identify as such, potentially leading to body changes they may regret.

Three-quarters of UK medical schools have signed up to a charter issued by The Association of LGBTQ+ Doctors & Dentists (Gladd) which promotes that trainee medics should be taught to ‘respect and affirm’ patients who say they are transgender, rather than explore other issues they may have.

An NHS review this year warned youngsters who say they are transgender get puberty blocking drugs or sex-swap hormones when they may benefit from other treatments. Some experts believe that among children who believe they have gender dysphoria are those who may have mental health conditions such as autism.

But the review by Dr Hilary Cass, which led to the closure of the NHS Tavistock trans child clinic in north London, said doctors there felt under pressure to adopt an unquestioning approach to sex-change youngsters.

Thirty-three out of 43 medical schools have signed up to the Gladd charter, which equates questioning someone’s gender identity with quack ‘conversion therapy’ which seeks to ‘cure’ people of homosexuality.

The charter says medical schools should ‘work with LGBTQ+ patients to respect and affirm their gender and/or sexual identity’. Gladd’s trans rep is Dr Katie McDowell, a trustee of charity Mermaids which allegedly sent breast binders to children behind parents’ backs and promoted puberty blockers to teens as safe and ‘reversible’.

Jane Galloway from Transgender Trend accused medical schools of ‘falling into a trap’ set by Mermaids.

She warned: ‘This means doctors will not be able to properly explore if a child has gender dysphoria, autism or something else.’

Figures from Tavistock clinic said 48 per cent of children treated there between 2011 and 2018 displayed autistic behaviour. Other studies found a quarter of youngsters at transgender clinics may be autistic. There are also fears many who say they are trans may be struggling to come out as gay.

Psychotherapist Bob Withers said: ‘The danger of doctors being taught to unquestioningly affirm a patient’s gender identity is that it encourages those with gender dysphoria down the path to medical treatment, making permanent changes to their body that they may later come to regret.’

A spokeswoman for Bayswater, a support group for parents of children wrestling with gender identity, said: ‘It is worrying trainee doctors are being taught this rubbish. It will lead to more children being harmed.’

 

[glue eater]

Medieval violence leaves a Yorkshire town lawless and terrified: Machete-wielding teens in balaclavas slice off man's hand leaving it 'twitching' on the floor of a working men's club​

The Deighton Working Men's Club, on the outskirts of Huddersfield, describes itself as the 'friendliest' establishment of its kind in Yorkshire.

The clubhouse has survived for generations — hosting bingo nights, snooker tournaments and putting on live music — when nine other licensed premises in the area have all shut their doors.

'Function room for Hire,' a brightly coloured sign proudly informs members. 'Birthdays, Christenings, Weddings . ..'

But the Deighton WMC's reputation for being friendly has — through no fault of the staff or management — a grimly ironic ring today. Even now it's hard to believe what took place here could have happened in a popular watering hole, on an ordinary street, in a provincial English market town.

The time is around 5.30pm a few weeks ago and a crowd of people, including parents with children, are sitting outside enjoying the hospitality in the late afternoon sunshine.

Suddenly, the buzz of chatter and laughter is pierced by a scream of 'Oh my God, Oh my God'.

In the smoking area, near the tables and benches where customers are sitting, a man is writhing in agony with blood gushing from his arm and, in front of him, still 'twitching' on the floor like a scene from a horror film, is his severed hand.

Two boys in balaclavas have just chopped it clean off with a machete, in full view of everyone, before fleeing down a path alongside the venue where they removed their masks.

They were 'laughing', according to a pensioner who saw them from her front door as they escaped. Their age? 'About 17 or 18,' she said.

A number of things separate this attack from other violent offences. The brutality, obviously. How young the culprits were. And, perhaps most tellingly, their sheer brazenness.

This kind of violence has become so endemic in Huddersfield, however, that locals have become almost desensitised to it.

In the immediate aftermath of the attack at the Deighton WMC, a number of people inside the club went to help the 30-year-old victim.

'I went to give him first aid,' said a girl who asked not to be identified, an all-too familiar response in Huddersfield following such incidents.

'I was walking through the club and saw everything.

'Me and a couple of other people thought the best thing to do was pick up his hand and put it in a bucket.'

Doctors tried to reattach the man's hand after he was taken to hospital but it's not known if the operation was successful.

'It's just the way it is around here,' the girl added. The nonchalance of her comment is perhaps as disturbing as the incident itself. But she is right.

The explosion of sociopathic, medieval violence, culminating in the murder of 15-year-old Khayri Mclean outside the gates of his school a little over a fortnight ago, seems to be unprecedented for a town the size of Huddersfield, a once prosperous mill town in West Yorkshire, which has a population of around 170,000.

In February, a 19-year old had his hand almost sliced off in a machete attack close to the Deighton WMC, when a car nearby was also firebombed.

Only a few months earlier, a 26-year-old man standing outside the Deighton WMC was ambushed by a mob armed with baseball bats, which ended with him being slashed with his own machete as he desperately tried to defend himself.

The Deighton Working Men's Club is now known as the 'Butcher's Arms' by some residents in the immediate vicinity.

During the spate of recent knifings and shootings a young man in his 20s had to have part of his leg amputated after another machete attack and a 12-year-old boy was left with 25 pellets lodged in his head after being blasted with a shotgun.

The ongoing violence has a disproportionately greater impact on communities in Huddersfield because, as one young woman explained, 'everyone knows each other'.

Membership of gangs, police say, is 'interchangeable' and reflects constantly shifting allegiances. Some of those who now find themselves on opposite sides of the turf war were once friends and used to sleep over at each other's houses.

The lawlessness is epitomised by the image of a sinister figure striding through the town centre in broad daylight dressed from head-to-toe in black — including what looked like black latex gloves — and stabbing a man with a 12-inch blade outside St Peter's parish church last month.

All this was captured in real time in a clip posted on the internet with church bells ringing out in the background, giving the unsettling impression that the violence was choreographed.

Latex gloves, supposedly to avoid leaving any identifying evidence — and to send a message that the person holding the weapon is 'untouchable' — have become the trademark of gangland culture in Huddersfield, along with the barbarism.

For many visitors, their first glimpse of the town, birthplace of former prime minister Harold Wilson, is the magnificent colonnaded railway station in St George's Square, memorably described as a 'stately home with trains in it'.

The contrast between the beautiful Victorian architecture and the brutal reality of life in some parts of the town is stark.

West Yorkshire had the highest crime rate — 113 crimes per 1,000 people — of any county across England, Wales and Northern Ireland last year.

In Huddersfield, 18,652 crimes were committed in the year to July. Among these, were 8,388 crimes of violence and sexual offences, 562 drug offences and 181 for possession of weapons.

The Deighton Working Men's Club is in an area 'controlled' by the notorious BBD gang, a name derived from the neighbouring districts of Bradley, Brackenhall and Deighton.

Rivals include the Dalton Crew, Fartown Boys and Walpole.

All these so-called 'crews' come from wards that rank among the ten per cent most deprived areas nationally, with high levels of youth unemployment.

For too many young people growing up in Huddersfield — which has a large Asian community, with many young British Pakistani men — gang leaders, not family members, are the role models.

'They see guys in Mercedes with nice watches on and look at rap videos and all the rubbish on them and think this is the only way to make money,' said an official from Changing The Narrative charity, which works with schools in Huddersfield to help children at risk from gang culture.

We can't tell you his name because, like almost everyone else we spoke to, he asked not to be identified for fear of reprisals; he says he has already been attacked in the street.

'Even though I am trying to do some good,' he adds, 'a lot of people have a problem with what I am doing. They have tried to make out I'm a 'grass' who is going after drug dealers to root them out or identify them, which is simply not the case.'

There can't be many people in Huddersfield who haven't been touched by the violence.

On the pavement outside North Huddersfield Trust School, where Khayri Mclean was killed moments after finishing class, you are reminded of this. Dozens of messages have been written on the concrete next to a sea of flowers with a marker pen: 'Rest in peace K'; 'love you'; 'You will be missed'. Among the bouquets is Khayri's school tie.

Brianna Pusey, one of the few people who agreed to be identified, is just 19. Two of her friends have already been murdered.

One of them is Khayri. The other is Javell Morgan, who was stabbed to death aged 20 in Moss Side, Manchester, in August. He came from Huddersfield. The six young men who have been arrested in connection with his murder all come from Huddersfield, too.

Brianna organised a peaceful protest of parents on the Brackenhall estate to make a stand against the gangs terrorising Huddersfield.

We meet outside Northfield Hall community centre, where the 12-year-old boy mentioned earlier, was blasted with a shotgun in March 2020, in an attack involving five men who wore masks and fled in a stolen BMW with false plates. 'The protest was for families who have lost loved ones,' she said. 'I'm doing it for the community because all we have got right now is each other. What's happening is disgusting. It's scary.

'My younger brother is scared to go to school. We're all more scared of the kids than adults.'

Three boys — one 14-year-old and two 17-year-olds — were allegedly found with weapons before a vigil close to Khayri's school.

In the aftermath of the murder, Brianna says, gangs also started turning up at other schools to intimidate pupils.

Just days after he was killed, police were called to King James's School in Almondbury when pupils were forced inside by intruders 'wearing balaclavas and carrying weapons' on the playing fields.

Little of the old Brackenhall — the scene of rioting in 1992 when police sought to close down a pub suspected of being at the centre of drug dealing — remains today.

Around 500 rundown council properties were demolished as part of a 'gentrification project' which began in the late 1990s when a new estate of modern homes and flats began to take shape.

But the shooting and a more recent stabbing mean Brackenhall has been unable to shake off its troubled past completely.

'The estate had been rebuilt and is now a nice-looking area, but I still wouldn't go wandering around there at night and I'm a retired copper,' said a former policeman. Even he asked not to be named.

Mark Reynolds runs the Rawthorpe Amateur Boxing Club and gives lectures about knife crime in schools.

'I have grandchildren and I don't want to take them into town,' he said. 'Huddersfield is only a small town, but it's up there with Liverpool and Manchester with big problems.'

The violence is, ostensibly at least, being fuelled by drugs. It's the common denominator that links Huddersfield with most other places.

Two years ago, 16 members of the BBD were jailed for a total of 80 years for running a county lines operation using 'runners' as young as 14 to deliver heroin and crack cocaine to Blackpool and collect the money.

Anyone who has listened to the BBC podcast series Hometown will be familiar with the narrative in Huddersfield.

Two rival criminals, Yassar Yaqub and Mohammed Nisar Khan, known as 'King Meggy', were featured in the investigation into drug-related crime in the town by Huddersfield-born journalist Mobeen Azhar.

Yaqub, 28, was shot dead by police in 2017 when a car in which he was a passenger was stopped on a slip road off the M62.

Khan, who drove a Porsche Cayenne with personalised number plates, was jailed for life in 2019.

At the time, the reporter who spent two years investigating the underworld in his 'hometown,' prophetically warned: 'Yassar is now dead. Meggy is in prison. If you take two senior dealers off the streets, there is a power vacuum and there's people rushing in to try to fill that gap.

'That could fuel a whole new battle over the West Yorkshire drugs trade. That means more violence and more misery.'

But does it go deeper than this?

The Huddersfield Examiner carried a report about the man who ran into the Deighton Working Men's Club after nearly having his hand sliced off on his way to withdraw £10 from a cashpoint nearby in February.

'It's not about drugs,' a friend told the paper. 'It's a 'postcode war.' They drive along and see who is on the road and jump out and attack them if they recognise them.

'It's another world.'

Socioeconomic factors.

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

For too many young people growing up in Huddersfield — which has a large Asian community, with many young British Pakistani men — gang leaders, not family members, are the role models.

I wonder why...

 

[KorokiKokoro]

Tomato soup thrown over Vincent Van Gogh's famous Sunflowers painting

They also glued themselves to the wall.

metro.co.uk

Tomato soup thrown over Vincent Van Gogh's famous Sunflowers painting…

archived 14 Oct 2022 17:04:17 UTC

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Eco wankers at it again, throwing soup on a Van Gogh painting to protest oil and gas exploration (fortunately it's protected by glass). I genuinely don't get the faggots in the gallery who just stand there and watch like cucks, you have the perfect chance to not only twat a hippie, but be hailed as a fucking hero for doing it.

Haven't some cunts from another group said they would literally block ambulances with dying patients in them? If that were to ever happen I expect them to be run over and there will be cheers for doing so, they deserve nothing less.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Haven't some cunts from another group said they would literally block ambulances with dying patients in them? If that were to ever happen I expect them to be run over and there will be cheers for doing so, they deserve nothing less.

That was either extinction rebellion or insulate britain. The latter did, in fact, knowingly block people trying to get to hospital a couple of times. They're all under the same umbrella anyway; just different faces spewing the same drivel.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Double post time. I'm feeling a bit conspiratorial about the current Tory shenanigans. Hunt is chancellor, Truss has disappeared, and Mordaunt is currently standing in for her at PM's questions. Rumour is that the next leadership election won't be left up to the party membership (who polled far too favourably to Badenoch to be trusted) and that it'll be a soft coup instead, installing either Sunnak, Hunt, or Mordaunt. My money is on Hunt. A backstabbing chancellor aiming for the leadership is a party tradition, after all.

 

[Overly Serious]

Double post time. I'm feeling a bit conspiratorial about the current Tory shenanigans. Hunt is chancellor, Truss has disappeared, and Mordaunt is currently standing in for her at PM's questions. Rumour is that the next leadership election won't be left up to the party membership (who polled far too favourably to Badenoch to be trusted) and that it'll be a soft coup instead, installing either Sunnak, Hunt, or Mordaunt. My money is on Hunt. A backstabbing chancellor aiming for the leadership is a party tradition, after all.

Yeah. They're far enough away from the next election that they'll think they can do this without hurting electoral chances. At least worse than having her remain. They'll definitely rig it - I read an article on a way they can do that. The rules are apparently fixed but they can adjust the number of MPs that is the minimum required to gain candidacy. So if they boost that super high they can ensure it's a "a car in any colour the American public want, so long as it's black" situation. Of the ones you list, Sunak would be my least disliked. An oilslick but Hunt is a treacherous reverse-Midas, everything he's put in charge of fails. And Mordaunt is like the Gnostic demi-urge personified. Watching Kemi Badenoch disect her in debate was a genuine pleasure.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Hong Kong protester dragged into Manchester Chinese consulate grounds and beaten up

Clashes break out after unidentified men attack placards at a Hong Kong pro-democracy protest.

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Hong Kong protester dragged into Manchester Chinese consulate grounds and beaten up​

A Hong Kong pro-democracy protester was pulled into Chinese consulate grounds in Manchester on Sunday and beaten up.

Unidentified men came out of the consulate and forced a man inside the compound before he escaped with the help of police and other demonstrators.

The protester told the BBC: "They dragged me inside, they beat me up."

The UK government called the reports "extremely concerning". The consulate says protesters displayed an insulting portrait of China's president.

The Foreign Office said it was urgently seeking clarity on the incident. Greater Manchester Police has launched an investigation.

Speaking after the incident, the protester, called Bob, told BBC Chinese that "mainlanders" - people from mainland China, as opposed to Hong Kong - had come out of the consulate and destroyed their posters.

"As we tried to stop them, they dragged me inside, they beat me up," he said, adding that he was then pulled out by the UK police.

"It's ridiculous. They [the attackers] shouldn't have done that. We are supposed to have freedom to say whatever we want here [in the UK]."

After the incident, the crowd remained angry. Protesters shouted at the men from the consulate and the British police, arguing they could have done more.

Consulate staff had previously asked the protesters to move to the opposite side of the street.

There were two police officers at the protest, but several more appeared within minutes of the altercation beginning.

They gathered at the gates of the compound trying to break up the fighting and move protesters back.

One police officer entered the consulate grounds and pulled the man who had been dragged inside back out.

At least eight men - some of whom were wearing helmets and protective vests - then returned to the consulate building.

The consulate is on UK soil, but cannot be entered without consent.

Reacting on Twitter, former Conservative leader Iain Duncan Smith said the UK government should demand a full apology from the Chinese ambassador, and that those involved should be sent back to China.

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Protests outside embassies and consulates in Britain often involve a few scuffles. Police are often on hand to keep the peace.

But rarely do consular staff emerge on to the street to pull down banners and posters. And even more rarely are protesters dragged through the gates and apparently beaten up.

So it is not surprising there are growing calls for the Foreign Secretary, James Cleverly, to summon China's ambassador in Britain for an explanation. Labour's foreign affairs spokesman, David Lammy, said the alleged assault was unacceptable. "The quashing of peaceful protest will never be tolerated on our streets," he said.

The police and the Home Office will investigate first and decide what action to take - if any - from a criminal justice point of view. As for the Foreign Office, it will have to decide whether to make any diplomatic response.

Britain is, of course, a signatory to the Vienna Convention, which gives some diplomatic immunity to consular staff and their properties. But diplomats and their employees are still covered by UK law and can potentially be declared persona non grata by the British government.

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The demonstrators were protesting as the ruling Communist Party congress began in Beijing.

President Xi Jinping, who is set to secure a third term in power, said he had turned the situation in Hong Kong from "chaos to governance", referring to China's suppression of pro-democracy protests there.

A spokesperson for the consulate said the protesters had "hung an insulting portrait of the Chinese president at the main entrance".

"This would be intolerable and unacceptable for any diplomatic and consular missions of any country. Therefore, we condemn this deplorable act with strong indignation and firm opposition," the spokesperson added.

A spokesperson said Greater Manchester Police was aware of the incident.

"Officers were present and responded immediately to defuse the situation," they said. "Enquiries are ongoing at this time to understand the full circumstances."

Downing Street said, "These reports are extremely concerning."

"I understand Greater Manchester Police responded immediately to the incident and I am conscious their inquiries are ongoing so it would be inappropriate for me to comment beyond that," the prime minister's official spokesperson said.

 

[AnOminous]

Double post time. I'm feeling a bit conspiratorial about the current Tory shenanigans. Hunt is chancellor, Truss has disappeared, and Mordaunt is currently standing in for her at PM's questions. Rumour is that the next leadership election won't be left up to the party membership (who polled far too favourably to Badenoch to be trusted) and that it'll be a soft coup instead, installing either Sunnak, Hunt, or Mordaunt. My money is on Hunt. A backstabbing chancellor aiming for the leadership is a party tradition, after all.

I don't even care about any of these faggots. Can't you limeys bring back the actually fun ones like Gorgeous George?

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I don't even care about any of these faggots. Can't you limeys bring back the actually fun ones like Gorgeous George?

You'd like Badenoch. I've got her down as the most likely to cause British liberals on Twitter to go off the same way their American fellows did on Clarence Thomas eventually.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Suella Braverman sacked after fewer days than David Blaine was in a box

The Home Office told Metro.co.uk they could not confirm or deny.

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Suella Braverman has departed as home secretary after just 43 days.
A new report suggests she was asked to resign from Liz Truss’s flailing government following an issue relating to ‘security’.
It’s understood to be ‘not over a policy disagreement but an honest mistake’.

So what do you guys think she did?

 

[Snekposter]

Suella Braverman sacked after fewer days than David Blaine was in a box

The Home Office told Metro.co.uk they could not confirm or deny.

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So what do you guys think she did?

Probably got tired of Liz Truss' bullshit and is using this as a means to GTFO from the public eye so she can sharpen a knife in private.

You know, Just Tory Things.

 

[Kane Lives]

I'm still really surprised that Tories have such a shit bench for leadership that one has to look all the way to Kemi to get a semi-decent looking person. So much for the myth that Old Eton is "required" to groom proper leaders.

 

[Snekposter]

I'm still really surprised that Tories have such a shit bench for leadership that one has to look all the way to Kemi to get a semi-decent looking person. So much for the myth that Old Eton is "required" to groom proper leaders.

Not the first time its happened to the Tories. Their propensity for backstabbing works in their favor in these instances as the incompetent leaders get removed surprisingly quickly. When was the last time anyone heard a peep out of Theresa May for example? How about BoJo? I would tell the Brits to stick a fork in those two because they're done for but they're not allowed sharp objects.

There's a reason they're the longest-lived political party, after all.

 

[celebrityskin]

Not a Britbong, but been browsing the badunitedkingdom subreddit threads and from what I've read the general mood just feels like the country is broken, akin to a car with a conked out engine. Public services not doing their jobs, doctors and dental appointments impossible to get, potholes everywhere etc., like everyone and everything is just slowly subconsciously giving up.

Double post time. I'm feeling a bit conspiratorial about the current Tory shenanigans. Hunt is chancellor, Truss has disappeared, and Mordaunt is currently standing in for her at PM's questions. Rumour is that the next leadership election won't be left up to the party membership (who polled far too favourably to Badenoch to be trusted) and that it'll be a soft coup instead, installing either Sunnak, Hunt, or Mordaunt. My money is on Hunt. A backstabbing chancellor aiming for the leadership is a party tradition, after all.

Definitely something shady going on. I feel like TPTB wanted Sunak (while the membership wanted Kemi and Penny as the final 2, then Liz in 3rd place) but if they Rishi an anointment, party divisions would be even worse than what they are now