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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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All I hope is that it kills the city of london and that tons of non-humans with ambition are left without their reward for selling off the country.
 
All I hope is that it kills the city of london and that tons of non-humans with ambition are left without their reward for selling off the country.
They are citizens of the world; they have no loyalty to the nation; the moment CoL dies, they'll pick up their shit and move to ruin another nation, these people don't fall out, they fail upwards.
 
They are citizens of the world; they have no loyalty to the nation; the moment CoL dies, they'll pick up their shit and move to ruin another nation, these people don't fall out, they fail upwards.
Close enough. It's like the ending to my favourite epic computer game, Portal 2.

Speaking of London, Ooga Booga Khan accidentally causes something right to occur (in the course of meddling) and is immediately in shit for it.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...nsed-face-london-assembly-committee-cressida/ (https://archive.ph/SY4Y8)
Sadiq Khan is to be hauled before the London Assembly’s police and crime committee to answer questions about Dame Cressida Dick’s resignation as the Metropolitan Police commissioner.
The Mayor of London was formally summonsed following a motion on Thursday, becoming the first sitting mayor to be compelled to face the committee under legislation available to it.
Failure to attend could see Mr Khan fined or jailed for up to three months, the Greater London Authority (GLA) Conservatives said.
The move was prompted by a damning report into the resignation of Dame Cressida in February.
The review, carried out by Sir Tom Winsor, found that Mr Khan urged her to break the law by sacking all the police officers involved in the Charing Cross racism scandal in order to protect his own political fortunes.
Sir Tom concluded that Dame Cressida was in effect “constructively dismissed” by the Mayor, who was also accused of “intimidating” her during her final weeks in the job. He found Mr Khan had not followed due process and had left her with “no option” but to step down.
Dame Cressida Dick: London Mayor 'left me no choice' but to resign as Met Police Commissioner
In a scathing 116-page report, the former chief inspector of constabulary accused the Mayor of encouraging the commissioner to go beyond her legal powers and dismiss a group of Met officers accused of exchanging racist, misogynistic and homophobic WhatsApp messages.
The police and crime committee said it had invoked powers under the Police Reform and Social Responsibility Act 2011 for the first time to formally summons Mr Khan to appear on Nov 16.
Susan Hall, the leader of the GLA Conservatives who also chairs the committee, said: “The Sir Tom Winsor review has raised important questions about the circumstances under which the former Metropolitan Police commissioner stood down.
“The London Assembly police and crime committee has statutory powers to summons the Mayor, which we have used for the first time today.
“We believe that, given the seriousness of the review’s findings, the Mayor needs to address the unanswered questions that have emerged. The public will rightly want to know what happened and what lessons need to be learned for the future.”
Earlier this month, Mr Khan dismissed Sir Tom’s report as one-sided and said Londoners would be able to see that it “ignores the facts”.
A spokesman for Mr Khan told the Evening Standard: “The Mayor’s focus is on working with the new reforming commissioner to build a safer London for everyone, rebuild trust and confidence in the police and support Sir Mark [Rowley] to drive through the urgent reforms and step change in culture and performance Londoners deserve.
“Londoners elected the Mayor to hold the Met Commissioner to account, and that’s exactly what he has done. The Mayor makes no apology for demanding better for London and putting its interests first.”
And the lulz doesn't have to end! The tribunal itself is revealing some quality information:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...mer-chief-Dame-Cressida-Dick-praised-him.html (https://archive.ph/OEbFD)
A police officer who drew up an anti-drugs strategy for the Met used cannabis daily while being praised by Dame Cressida Dick for his performance, a tribunal has heard.
Commander Julian Bennett, who has served in the force since 1976, is also accused of using LSD and taking magic mushrooms, and for failing to give a drug sample after suspicions arose that he may have used cannabis on July 21, 2020.
According to the accusations, he then lied about why he failed to provide a test.
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A third allegation states: 'It is alleged that on July 21 2020 Cdr Bennett provided an explanation for refusing to provide a sample for a with cause drugs test that he knew to be untrue and that his behaviour brings discredit upon the police service and undermines confidence in it.'
Commander Julian Bennett (pictured) who has served in the force since 1976, is also accused of using LSD and taking magic mushrooms, and for failing to give a drug sample after suspicions arose that he may have used cannabis on July 21, 2020.

The officer claimed he had taken cannabidiol, a form of medical cannabis, to treat facial palsy (stock image)
He is also accused of breaching the force's standards for discreditable conduct, honesty and integrity and orders and instructions.
Nicknamed 'sacker', he was known for taking a tough approach to rogue officers when he presided over disciplinary hearings, but now faces being booted out of the force himself.
Between 2010 and 2012, he presided over 74 misconduct hearings involving 90 officers and he sacked 56 officers. He chaired 69 of those hearings and kicked two cops out of the force for drug misuse in that time.
Commander Bennett wrote the force's anti-drugs strategy, called 'Dealing with the Impact of drugs on communities' to run between 2017 and 2021.
The strategy set out the force's plans to 'raise awareness' about the dangers of drug use. It is not clear if a new strategy is now in place.
But he was suspended in July 2020 when the allegations came to light.
The officer claimed he had taken cannabidiol, a form of medical cannabis, to treat facial palsy, which an earlier hearing was told he 'knew to be untrue'.
His lawyer John Beggs QC told the hearing he had been taking medical cannabis 'from Holland and Barrett and the like'.
A disciplinary hearing at the Met's Empress State Building in West Brompton, west London, heard the case against him could be thrown out because the key witness, a nurse who was his lodger for seven weeks and is planning on writing a book about the claims, has not turned up to give evidence.
She said she was unwell when the hearing began on August 30 and was 'resting' during Friday's proceedings.
The disciplinary hearing is being heard at the Met's Empress State Building in West Brompton, west London

Mr Beggs said it would have been fair to adjourn the hearing but now wants to case dismissed, accusing the force of seeking to obtain an unfair advantage to secure a conviction.
'This man has a long and distinguished career in the force,' he said.
'This is not a man, to use a topical example, who is a junior officer accused of sending some offensive WhatsApps. This is an officer who was regularly praised by the most senior officers in this force.
'His high performance was being commented in the weeks he was allegedly smoking cannabis on a daily basis. This was a period when his high performance was so impressive that the then Commissioner [Cressida Dick] was passing on her thanks.'
He added that the book by the key witness backs up the force's allegations.
'She has a distinct and at times sarcastic and nasty antipathy to my client,' he said.
'Not a soul ever smelt the slightest hint of cannabis in that period. He denies ever taking cannabis or any controlled drug.
'Had he taken a drug test on July 21 2020, he might well have tested positive for an entirely innocent reason. He recognises he should have taken the drugs test.
'He had been taking cannabis tinctures and oils from Holland and Barrett and the like. He was taking them because he had a very unpleasant medical condition.
It is claimed the officer had been taking cannabis tinctures and oils from Holland and Barrett for 'a very unpleasant medical condition'

It is claimed the officer had been taking cannabis tinctures and oils from Holland and Barrett for 'a very unpleasant medical condition'
'The oils alleviate the deeply unpleasant and embarrassing symptoms on the face and can give false positive results.
'He joined the Metropolitan Police in 1976 when Harold Wilson was handing over to James Callaghan. He deserves total fairness from this panel.'
He added that a year's worth of WhatsApp messages, ranging from December 2019 to February 2021, which the force are understood to be using as evidence, are missing.
The court heard that the messages involve someone called Mario.
Mr Beggs added that he felt it was unjust that the key witness is being relied on to disclose messages, asking 'the complainant to become the disclosure officer', and that is unfair to rely on her evidence as hearsay.
Using her evidence as hearsay would not require her to be present at the hearing, which would mean she could not be cross-examined.
He added that initially the force did not 'fast track' the case, meaning there was little or no dispute about the facts, but that they now seek to go ahead without the main witness, which would put the process in a similar position to having been fast tracked.
He went on to compare the Met's handling of the case to that of Liam Allan, a criminology graduate who was accused of rape before his case was dropped three days before trial. Following a review, the Met offered him an apology for its handling of his case.
Mr Beggs has called for a similar review to be carried out into his client's case.
His high performance was reportedly so impressive that Dame Cressida Dick had passed on her thanks to him personally

His high performance was reportedly so impressive that Dame Cressida Dick had passed on her thanks to him personally
During his career, Commander Bennett has served in a number of high-profile roles, including the planning of the London 2012 Olympics (Stock image)

During his career, Commander Bennett has served in a number of high-profile roles, including the planning of the London 2012 Olympics (Stock image)
If found guilty of gross misconduct, Commander Bennett will be barred from serving in the force for the rest of his life and may face his pension being cut.
During his career, Commander Bennett has served in a number of high-profile roles, including operations to tackle moped gangs in London and the planning of the London 2012 Olympics.
He also chaired the panel that sacked PC Simon Harwood, the Met police officer who struck and pushed Ian Tomlinson as he walked away from riot officers on the fringe of the G20 protests in London.
He headed a panel which dismissed misconduct charges in 2019 against five officers involved in an incident surround the death of musician Sean Rigg.
The tribunal continues.
 
Look at the currency markets and you'll see the same graph for everyone except the dollar. It's highly unlikely that, out of all of them, only the UK uniquely suffered this drop because of local issues.

vs the USD:

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I think the budget has some good ideas and some very bad ones. Something needs to pull currency out of the system and also reduce price pressure. I would have instituted a sales tax on luxury goods (as opposed to the VAT nonsense), increased corporation tax a little, and reduced fuel tax by some arbitrary amount that I haven't worked out yet. Income taxes are the devil.

e: also cut tax on electricity and gas consumption and increase it on gas and fuel exports.


I follow the dollar/GBP exchange rate a lot because I buy and sell software that 9 times out of 10, follows that rate. When things were good, we could get shit for nearly half price, now we have to pay 'full dollar', so to speak.

I got some Euro coins that my folks chucked on to me recently after their holidays on the continent. Glad I didn't cash them in before, I'll get maybe a tenner or twenty more for them now (only about 200 Euros).

What a time to be alive.
 

New growth figures suggest UK not in recession​

(say lying liars who lie)

The UK's economy grew in the second quarter of this year, contrary to an initial reading which said it had shrunk, revised official data suggests.
Economic output rose by 0.2% between April and June, revised up from a previous reading of -0.1%, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said.
It suggests the UK is not currently in recession, as was predicted by the Bank of England earlier this month.
However, the economy is still smaller than it was before the Covid pandemic.
This is because the new ONS figures show the impact of Covid on the economy was more severe than previously thought, and it had shrunk by more than estimated in the first few months of the pandemic.
As a result, the ONS said the economy was still 0.2% smaller than pre-pandemic levels, whereas it had said previously it was 0.6% bigger.
Samuel Tombs, chief UK economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics, said: "The downturn in economic activity during 2020 looks even worse than previously thought, and the subsequent recovery even weaker, following the latest set of national accounts revisions."
He said these new figures would compel the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) to further revise down its estimates for future potential GDP.
Earlier this month, the Bank of England had warned the UK could already be in a recession - which is defined as two three-month periods of decline in a row.
The Bank predicted the economy would shrink by 0.1% in the July-to-September period, and at the time the economy was thought to have shrunk in the previous quarter.
Commenting on the revised figures, ONS chief economist Grant Fitzner said: "These improved figures show the economy grew in the second quarter, revised up from a small fall."
"They also show that, while household savings fell back in the most recent quarter, households saved more than we previously estimated during and after the pandemic."
 
It's very interesting how quickly and fully the establishment has rounded on Liz Truss. Like, maybe her plan will work or maybe it won't — I think it probably won't — but it's being written off before anything has even happened, and in a completely dishonest way too.

Bear in mind that a female Labour PM (lol) and her black chancellor could make their first act to legalise eating babies, and (((the usual suspects))) would be lauding them for their vision and bravery.
 
It's very interesting how quickly and fully the establishment has rounded on Liz Truss. Like, maybe her plan will work or maybe it won't — I think it probably won't — but it's being written off before anything has even happened, and in a completely dishonest way too.
It was always going to be the way. I don't like Truss, but it was pretty clear she was set up to fail by both the parliamentary party and the civil service. Both candidates were set up to fail, really; whether the party membership had selected Truss or the paki, the result would have been the same: backstabbing, whisper campaigns, and ultimately betrayal. This is just how the Tories operate over time. A genuinely vibrant and living party would have thrown the entire selection process open to the membership without all of this jockying to select the "right" candidates shit.

The BBC and co want Labour in power, because they're fucking idiots who think they can ride the tiger. They want Blairism back, but with the way the party is at the moment, if Labour does win, they'll get a government that will quickly be subverted and overtaken by extremists who don't give a toss about the workers, and who would turn the BBC into a subservient propaganda arm of the state in a way that makes the current soft paternalism look like enlightened liberalism.

Unless Truss can pull the country out of this spiral, at the next election we'll be choosing between the fuckers who fuckers us, and the Troon/Corbynite alliance. We have no viable alternatives. The closest we might get is a resurgent liberal democrat party forming a large enough bloc to force another coalition, but that would only result in more of the same bullshit we've had up to now.
 
It was always going to be the way. I don't like Truss, but it was pretty clear she was set up to fail by both the parliamentary party and the civil service. Both candidates were set up to fail, really; whether the party membership had selected Truss or the paki, the result would have been the same: backstabbing, whisper campaigns, and ultimately betrayal. This is just how the Tories operate over time. A genuinely vibrant and living party would have thrown the entire selection process open to the membership without all of this jockying to select the "right" candidates shit.

The BBC and co want Labour in power, because they're fucking idiots who think they can ride the tiger. They want Blairism back, but with the way the party is at the moment, if Labour does win, they'll get a government that will quickly be subverted and overtaken by extremists who don't give a toss about the workers, and who would turn the BBC into a subservient propaganda arm of the state in a way that makes the current soft paternalism look like enlightened liberalism.

Unless Truss can pull the country out of this spiral, at the next election we'll be choosing between the fuckers who fuckers us, and the Troon/Corbynite alliance. We have no viable alternatives. The closest we might get is a resurgent liberal democrat party forming a large enough bloc to force another coalition, but that would only result in more of the same bullshit we've had up to now.
You forgot to add that Labour the Lib Dems are both pushing for proportional representation. Which if it got in would give us the situation much of Europe is in at the moment where they get in hamstrung parties that can get nothing done but end up in endless meetings where nothing gets done.

A bureaucrat's wet dream basically, which is why so many of them are on board. The fact that the proverbial chickens are coming home to roost on that policy in Europe as increasingly right wing forces are getting into power is missed on all the Labour supports wanking about how great it will be social media.
 
The BBC and co want Labour in power, because they're fucking idiots who think they can ride the tiger. They want Blairism back, but with the way the party is at the moment, if Labour does win, they'll get a government that will quickly be subverted and overtaken by extremists who don't give a toss about the workers, and who would turn the BBC into a subservient propaganda arm of the state in a way that makes the current soft paternalism look like enlightened liberalism.
This seems to imply that Blairism ever left and wasn't the sole political creed of every single electable politician for the last 2 decades.

You forgot to add that Labour the Lib Dems are both pushing for proportional representation. Which if it got in would give us the situation much of Europe is in at the moment where they get in hamstrung parties that can get nothing done but end up in endless meetings where nothing gets done.

A bureaucrat's wet dream basically, which is why so many of them are on board. The fact that the proverbial chickens are coming home to roost on that policy in Europe as increasingly right wing forces are getting into power is missed on all the Labour supports wanking about how great it will be social media.
Hasn't the past decade of British politics just been the parties squabbling and getting nothing done other than fucking over the country (and the squabbling being irrelevant shit like what socks they should wear when fucking over the country or what funny captions they should put on the group photos of them fucking over the country)
 
Unless Truss can pull the country out of this spiral, at the next election we'll be choosing between the fuckers who fuckers us, and the Troon/Corbynite alliance. We have no viable alternatives. The closest we might get is a resurgent liberal democrat party forming a large enough bloc to force another coalition, but that would only result in more of the same bullshit we've had up to now.
As much as I think Guy Fawkes was a lolcow given his end goal and his complete idiocy in going about it, complete with school shooter nonsense like telling some MPs he liked that they were cool and shouldn't go into work tomorrow, Step 1 of his plan to enact a Catholic theocratic monarchy in the UK could have only made the island a better place to live if it had succeeded.
 
As much as I think Guy Fawkes was a lolcow given his end goal and his complete idiocy in going about it, complete with school shooter nonsense like telling some MPs he liked that they were cool and shouldn't go into work tomorrow, Step 1 of his plan to enact a Catholic theocratic monarchy in the UK could have only made the island a better place to live if it had succeeded.
Only man to enter parliament with honest intentions. Sad that we won't see his sort again.
 
Hasn't the past decade of British politics just been the parties squabbling and getting nothing done other than fucking over the country (and the squabbling being irrelevant shit like what socks they should wear when fucking over the country or what funny captions they should put on the group photos of them fucking over the country)
I'd personally argue it's more likely the past 500 years since the joke about the 2 party system is one Spitting Image did in the original series. Which means it was always well known.

But if they manage to actually cram proportional representation in it'll basically fuck the electoral process utterly until something insane happens.
 
I'd personally argue it's more likely the past 500 years since the joke about the 2 party system is one Spitting Image did in the original series. Which means it was always well known.

But if they manage to actually cram proportional representation in it'll basically fuck the electoral process utterly until something insane happens.
Thinking back over the time I've paid attention to politics here in the UK (rather longer than I'm comfortable admitting) I am inclined to think that a government that doesn't work would be an improvement.
 
Only man to enter parliament with honest intentions. Sad that we won't see his sort again.
Oh, I don't know about honest intentions given his end goal. But I could go with sincere since he believed he was doing the right thing.
Thinking back over the time I've paid attention to politics here in the UK (rather longer than I'm comfortable admitting) I am inclined to think that a government that doesn't work would be an improvement.
Man, why do you think everyone in the USA was so pissed at Obama and is so pissed at Biden right now? Its because the two of them got the government off its ass and put it to work fucking the American people over. For all we bitch about the apathy and laziness of the DMV we'd much rather have that than an agency that's actively at work double and triple checking to make sure things are all according to proper process.
 
Thinking back over the time I've paid attention to politics here in the UK (rather longer than I'm comfortable admitting) I am inclined to think that a government that doesn't work would be an improvement.
A government that doesn't work gives us more of Europe's problems on top of our own. It'll stagnate with ever increasing amounts of tax payer cash flowing out into social services that don't actually address any problems but make for cushy positions for various individuals while the lower middle class gets squeezed for ever penny they have and the upper middle find themselves sliding down.
 
You forgot to add that Labour the Lib Dems are both pushing for proportional representation. Which if it got in would give us the situation much of Europe is in at the moment where they get in hamstrung parties that can get nothing done but end up in endless meetings where nothing gets done.

A bureaucrat's wet dream basically, which is why so many of them are on board. The fact that the proverbial chickens are coming home to roost on that policy in Europe as increasingly right wing forces are getting into power is missed on all the Labour supports wanking about how great it will be social media.

PR would be bad for Labour (right now at least), bad for the SNP, and good for Nigel Farage. Can't see that being allowed to happen.
 
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