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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I'm very surprised that they arrested the other guy.
Still won't change the outcome of the enquiry though. (VERDICT: INTERNET)
Don't know if the other fellow had a court order preventing it or someone was keeping a closer eye on him and felt his collar before he got on the plane. Either way a cock up has occurred.
 
Detonating a bomb in Manchester could only improve the place, so I'm not sure why people are making a fuss about the brother going on holiday.
Because the Irish already did that in the 90's and fuck modern day remakes with diversity crowbarred in.
 
Because the Irish already did that in the 90's and fuck modern day remakes with diversity crowbarred in.
Be fair though, he was nice enough to target Ariana Grande fans instead of humans this time.
 
Detonating a bomb in Manchester could only improve the place, so I'm not sure why people are making a fuss about the brother going on holiday.
Alas CWCissey beat me to my preferred reply and improved it with the diversity shot.

“I’m really sorry for being a nuisance”. Stabbed her husband and admits all to the Police. Sweet..
I dunno, off what she says things were like with him if wife beaters got the same vehemence as pedos do on here most people here would applaud her.

A retired accountant who stabbed her husband to death has told a jury that he repeatedly beat her and once held a knife to her throat, as footage was released of her being arrested and telling police she hoped he would die – and asking officers to fetch her coat.

Penelope Jackson, 66, said her husband, former army Lt Col David Jackson, 78, once head-butted her when he returned from home and threw her down cellar stairs during a Mother’s Day celebration at an officer’s mess.


She said: “It would always start out with him being verbally aggressive. It was always about me being disloyal and he would say ‘You never loved me anyway’. He called me a ‘thing’ like I wasn’t a person.


“It would escalate, and he would shake me most of the time, he strangled me sometimes and I would go unconscious sometimes. Other times I would be semi-conscious, and I would be on the bed or the floor and if he was really angry he would kick me.”

She said he once grabbed her round the throat in a row over a coffee and on another occasion suffocated her until she was unconscious after a dispute over a cheeseboard. She said if she did not want sex, “he would put his hands over my mouth and we would have sex”.

In footage released at the end of the prosecution case, Jackson is seen telling officers “I admit it all”. She says her husband is on the kitchen floor of their bungalow in Somerset. Jackson says “there’s nothing nasty”, before adding: “With any luck you’ll be too late.”

Later Jackson responds with “oh good” after she is told she is being arrested for murder. When she is informed she has to have her temperature taken, she tells an officer: “That would be just really great, get Covid on top of this.”

The jury at Bristol crown court has been told Jackson stabbed her husband to death in the kitchen of their bungalow in Berrow, Somerset, in February. She has admitted manslaughter but denied murder. In a 999 call that has been played to the jury, he can be heard screaming as a knife is allegedly driven into him.

Part of the recording was released at the conclusion of the prosecution case.

Jackson can be heard telling the call handler: “I might go and stab him again.” The call handler asks her not to, and Jackson goes on: “I am compos mentis … I am in the lounge, he is in the kitchen bleeding to death with any luck.”

Asked how many times she stabbed him, Jackson says once. “And then he said I wouldn’t do it again, so I did it twice more.”

Jackson also says she thought she had stabbed her husband in the heart, but adds: “Well he hasn’t got one.”

Police rushed to the house and bodycam footage shows an officer calling out: “Get the ambulance in pronto – we need CPR.” Jackson says: “No, no, no, please don’t,” and adds that she “should have stabbed him a bit more”.

She is cold and asks for a coat. “I have no intention of not agreeing to what I have done,” she said. “I know what I have done and I know why I’ve done it and if I haven’t done it properly I’m really annoyed.”

Jackson adds: “I stabbed him … He’s an aggressive bully and nasty and I’ve had enough.”

At the start of the defence case, Clare Wade QC, said: “This case is about domestic abuse, control and ultimately entrapment. Domestic abuse is not physical all of the time.”


She added: “She [Jackson] lost control and stabbed her husband. She did not intend to kill him or cause serious harm. She lost all ability and sense of self and identity by the time she lashed out at David.”

Jackson told the jury her husband was so jealous when they first met she got “property of David Jackson” tattooed on her bottom.

She said her previous husband had killed himself after she admitted an affair with Mr Jackson. She told the jury Jackson’s behaviour changed after the suicide of his son, Gavin.

“He would get so angry for no reason. He walked in the door one day and out of the blue he head-butted me.” Jackson recalled one occasion during a family barbecue while they were in Germany when he held a knife to her throat. She said: “We had a huge row and David then hit me, head-butted me and punched me. I ran away into the house, he followed eventually and had a knife to my throat. His family pulled him off me.”

Jackson told the jury: “I didn’t know if I was waking up to nice David or nasty David. He used to say, ‘You never loved me,’ and I used to say, ‘If I don’t love you, why would I stay all these years? You know I love you’.

“I still love him, even after all of this.”

The trial continues.
While people do lie in their defence this genuinely sounds like someone who snapped after years of this and snapped pretty damn hard.
 
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Did The Guardian start having Right Wing Death Squads lately? What did I miss?

Fuck knows. My only thought to this is the general trend that they go after their own a lot harder than anybody else.

It does seem bizarre. Surely they'd want to help? Why doesn't the Daily Mail or the Times set them off?

I'm not sure how much energy I want to invest in untangling the motivations of a bunch of commie faggots and trannies.
 
Fuck knows. My only thought to this is the general trend that they go after their own a lot harder than anybody else.

It does seem bizarre. Surely they'd want to help? Why doesn't the Daily Mail or the Times set them off?

I'm not sure how much energy I want to invest in untangling the motivations of a bunch of commie faggots and trannies.
I cba to trawl Twitter to find out the specific motivations of this outrage, but generally anti-Guardian sentiment on the left is something of a generational or ideological split. The Guardian is mostly associated with a more middle class, middle aged, liberal-leftism, vehemently pro-Remain and were often skeptical of Corbyn. Britain’s socialist left aren’t fond of the Guardian because they basically see them as a Lib Dem news outlet. It’s very much a “left eating their own” thing as well, in the same sense as how Corbynites during the 4 years of his leadership seemed to spend more time feuding with Blairites and moderates rather than attacking Tories.

Also, as we’ve seen from progressive outrage against the BBC in the past, it doesn’t matter if the organisation spends 90% of its time promoting a woke progressive agenda on social issues, because the 10% of time they give to opposing viewpoints is enough to be labelled as “literal violence against marginalised groups”.
 
I suppose I can see the wisdom in targeting the Guardian. If you force them to compromise a little bit more you're going to have something without even a hint of nuance whereas it takes a lot more effort to swing many other outlets further left.
 
I suppose I can see the wisdom in targeting the Guardian. If you force them to compromise a little bit more you're going to have something without even a hint of nuance whereas it takes a lot more effort to swing many other outlets further left.

There's probably some internal tension going on at the Guardian right now, I'd wager. Suzanne Moore made a big fuss about resigning last year, she was getting accused of the usual transphobia - and she was a loon in her own right, starting her career writing for "Marxism Today" of all fucking things.

So - you've got the established old-guard of leftists at the Guardian and presumably a new generation of trans-loving weirdos who likely don't have any concept of the business models involved with running a newspaper, and are purely focused on their desired content and message. The Guardian's always had weirdo commie-loving fruitcakes writing for it, but they also had sense enough to show some restraint and publish something that the general public might actually buy.

It'll be interesting to see how it implodes at some point over the next few years.
 
I cba to trawl Twitter to find out the specific motivations of this outrage, but generally anti-Guardian sentiment on the left is something of a generational or ideological split. The Guardian is mostly associated with a more middle class, middle aged, liberal-leftism, vehemently pro-Remain and were often skeptical of Corbyn. Britain’s socialist left aren’t fond of the Guardian because they basically see them as a Lib Dem news outlet. It’s very much a “left eating their own” thing as well, in the same sense as how Corbynites during the 4 years of his leadership seemed to spend more time feuding with Blairites and moderates rather than attacking Tories.

Also, as we’ve seen from progressive outrage against the BBC in the past, it doesn’t matter if the organisation spends 90% of its time promoting a woke progressive agenda on social issues, because the 10% of time they give to opposing viewpoints is enough to be labelled as “literal violence against marginalised groups”.
‘Twas just the usual outrage. Tried not to go through pink (prick) news but it’s all just quoting them anyway.
 
There's probably some internal tension going on at the Guardian right now, I'd wager. Suzanne Moore made a big fuss about resigning last year, she was getting accused of the usual transphobia - and she was a loon in her own right, starting her career writing for "Marxism Today" of all fucking things.

So - you've got the established old-guard of leftists at the Guardian and presumably a new generation of trans-loving weirdos who likely don't have any concept of the business models involved with running a newspaper, and are purely focused on their desired content and message. The Guardian's always had weirdo commie-loving fruitcakes writing for it, but they also had sense enough to show some restraint and publish something that the general public might actually buy.

It'll be interesting to see how it implodes at some point over the next few years.
I feel this. I used to read the Guardian, 20-odd years ago: As an old-school liberal, it was news with a leftish tint, punctuated with columns by the like of George Monbiot as to why real hippies loved nuclear power, and I loved it.

Now it's just troonwash.

Fuck them all.
 
‘Twas just the usual outrage. Tried not to go through pink (prick) news but it’s all just quoting them anyway.
Hah, a Guardian article I can agree with parts of.


After the heartbreaking family statements and accounts of Sarah Everard’s abduction and murder, it seemed unlikely a judicial summing up could exacerbate the distress. But somehow the judge achieved it.

Everard was, Lord Justice Fulford said, “a wholly blameless victim”. Ah. The other sort – the woman who contributes to her own death at the hands of a pitiless stranger – evidently lives on in the mind of the senior judiciary. Forty years after the police and prosecution virtue-rated victims of the mass murderer Peter Sutcliffe, the criminal justice system applauds a female victim who lives up to the highest patriarchal standards. Sir Michael Havers said at Sutcliffe’s trial that “perhaps the saddest part of the case” was that “the last six attacks were on totally respectable women”.


After Sutcliffe’s death last year, West Yorkshire police apologised for similar ugliness. But even in the 1970s women seem to have been spared the suggestion that some police officers were well disposed, personally, towards the murderer.

Turning to the mitigating arguments, Fulford acknowledged of Couzens that “some of his colleagues have spoken supportively of him”. We already knew that Couzens’s nickname, as a serving officer, was “the rapist”. We learned months ago that he had been reported for indecent exposure in 2015, then for twice repeating this offence days before the murder, remaining in his job. But only thanks to the judge did we discover that even after he was known to have kidnapped and killed, the depraved Couzens – with his prostitutes and violent pornography – enjoyed support from colleagues. Are they among the officers now being investigated?

There’s little reason, given recent police statements, to hope so. After months during which the Metropolitan police could have enhanced safeguarding, addressed risks and even been ready with a self-lacerating review, all it could contribute after the trial were lines about wrong ’uns and lessons learned, its own great shock and sadness and the correct procedure for women needing to distinguish between arrest and abduction. The kindest thing that can be said about Cressida Dick, given the evidence of employee mistreatment of women tolerated in police forces, is that this misogyny is so entrenched as to have defied any attempts she may have made to expunge it.

Female ex-officers have been speaking about the difficulty of reporting male misbehaviour, including domestic abuse, in this male-dominated culture and about the likely pariah status for women who try.


Women who value women-only spaces – where they feel safe from male violence – Lammy characterised as 'hoarding rights'.

As in March, when women gathering to mourn Sarah Everard were set upon by male officers, this harrowing case has aroused collective concern. Again, men remind other men, using the hashtag #shewasonlywalkinghome, what it must be like for a young woman to be always glancing behind her, recrossing the road, carrying keys in her fist. Again, there’s an appalled interest, for all the world as if it had been long hidden, in the decades of harassment that begin for women in puberty and cease only with middle age or police instructions (unmodified since Sutcliffe’s murders in Leeds) to stay off the streets when especially dangerous men are at large.

David Lammy, the shadow justice secretary, was among the prominent men tweeting their abhorrence: “Enough is enough. We need to treat violence against women and girls as seriously as terrorism.”

Sometimes, you gather, it’s acceptable to discuss endemic male violence against women and girls and sometimes it’s not. Just before the Everard verdict, Lammy had angrily dismissed women exercised by this very subject as “dinosaurs”. Women who value women-only spaces – where they feel safe from male violence – he characterised as “hoarding rights”.

Lammy, along with some Labour colleagues, simultaneously denounces male violence, then, taking victim-blaming to as yet unprecedented levels, is furious with any women concerned about losing the few places that individuals he depicts as terrorists can’t access.


These single-sex spaces – from refuges to hospital wards and rest rooms – historically protected women by excluding men where women were particularly vulnerable. #Notallmen, of course, but that’s safeguarding. “Preventative measures,” as Professor Kathleen Stock writes in Material Girls, “are usually by necessity broad-brush. They aren’t supposed to be a character reference for a group as a whole.”

But there are now questions about their survival, partly because of their increasing, arbitrary replacement by gender-neutral spaces, partly because of possible changes to gender-recognition law. These could, as an unintended consequence, leave women – both trans and not – with almost nowhere they don’t have to glance over their shoulders. As Alessandra Asteriti and Rebecca Bull argued in Modern Law Review: “Opening spaces to those who self-declare their sex and who are perceived as males” will “embolden male opportunists to enter single-sex spaces, reducing their risk-mitigation role”.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/01/women-prey-authority-violence-against-women
But public debate has been minimal. Not least because some of the same people who, unsatisfied by “bad apple” excuses, demand to know what safeguards prevent the police from harbouring another Couzens, will also scorn any questions about what, in future, could prevent the same sort of opportunist from appearing in women-only changing rooms. The implications of everyday harassment, along with the data on male violence and killings such as Everard’s and Sabina Nessa’s, are liable to be ridiculed in this different context as invented “bathroom bogeymen”.

And some fears might, it’s true, be disproportionate. Some threats might be, if not ineradicable, made manageable. Maybe it’s easy to distinguish between decent and indecent exposure. Or, as Kathleen Stock proposes, the introduction of third spaces could be the best answer to conflicting interests around dignity and safety.

But first we need men like Lammy, with his admirable insistence that male violence against women and girls be taken seriously, to explain why, in that case, women’s interest in personal safety can be disparaged – in terms almost worthy of a Metropolitan police officer – as beneath his notice.
TLDR: we can't pick and choose when to champion protecting women. Sort of like this case or when a random black footballer decided to record himself tormenting a homeless woman after she hurled some racist abuse at him there's a tendency for Labour to go utterly silent when it's not the right sort of victim or offender.

I can see why that set off those demanding access to women-only spaces be made easier.
 
Labour officially gives up! Unite union backs PR! So why did they settle for supporting the Lib Dems forever? (there was a tory-lib goverment but that only happened because the math didn't work for lab-lib and lib didn't want a do over election) My guess is that they (Unite/Labour) realized they have no path to a majority without Scotland and they cannot win back Scotland because they got squeezed out by Tories/SNP. SNP taking the nationalist vote and Tories taking the unionist vote after labour foolishly said they wouldn't block another referendum. Your not a real unionist if you support a referendum because it's only a matter of time until the nationalists get lucky.
 
Labour officially gives up! Unite union backs PR! So why did they settle for supporting the Lib Dems forever? (there was a tory-lib goverment but that only happened because the math didn't work for lab-lib and lib didn't want a do over election) My guess is that they (Unite/Labour) realized they have no path to a majority without Scotland and they cannot win back Scotland because they got squeezed out by Tories/SNP. SNP taking the nationalist vote and Tories taking the unionist vote after labour foolishly said they wouldn't block another referendum. Your not a real unionist if you support a referendum because it's only a matter of time until the nationalists get lucky.
What brought this on? If it's the defecting Labour MP in Scotland bear in mind who she's married to, this is likely a move of convenience rather than ideology.
 

Oxfam has removed a children’s game celebrating “inspirational women” such as Marie Curie, Rosa Parks and Emmeline Pankhurst from its shops because transgender and non-binary staff complained that it did not “respect people of all genders”.

Wonder Women, a bingo game, features 48 women “who have made a mark on the world, from scientists and artists to writers, activists and beyond”.

Oxfam said that it would stop stocking the game because of unspecified concern over its content. It said: “We took the decision to remove the game from sale following concerns raised by trans and non-binary colleagues who told us that it didn’t live up to our commitment to respect people of all genders.”
Honk honk, all aboard the clown world express.
 
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