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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Tony Blair: <Long prevaricating answer that gives you the impression he would never, ever and talks about the evils of drugs, without ever actually saying he hasn't>
John Major: "No" (and you believe him!)
Paddy Ashdown: <laughter> "You can't possibly expect me to answer that on television."
Just based on that I'd consider voting for the guy whatever party he is. It certainly beats Clinton's claim of "never inhaled." Yeah sure Bubba.
 
I used to love conkers as a kid. might bully my mates into playing,
 
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How are they even getting work visas that quickly?
Won't be classed as work there since they'll be being paid for their UK job instead.
Wow, isn't this foreign election interference?
Debatable, problem is they all hob-nob and interfere with one another all the time. My bigger issue aside from the financing side is that Kier wants to be seen as neutral on the issue and this is happening. It's blatant that this has his support.
 
Ah yes, having foreigners accost you in the street and tell you how you are supposed to vote. I bet that will be very persuasive to working-class American swing voters.
Not just foreigners but Labour devotees. The "orange man bad" will be off the charts.
 
Won't be classed as work there since they'll be being paid for their UK job instead.

Debatable, problem is they all hob-nob and interfere with one another all the time. My bigger issue aside from the financing side is that Kier wants to be seen as neutral on the issue and this is happening. It's blatant that this has his support.
The man coached by democrats who also had race riots following high profile unequal standards crimes with clipped to only show one sides (Manchester/ st Floyd) video evidence released just after being elected.....
No, he can't be biased?
 
Preston Crown Court is weird as a lot of gangsters from Liverpool and Manchester get trials there to avoid jury intimidation locally. So what’s happened is some of those gangsters have moved some of there operations there as they spend so much time in the court, leading to Preston being this strange backward town with a problem with serious heavy duty organised crime now because the police and courts don’t seem so remember motorways exist.

Best bus station ever, though.
 
No, he can't be biased?
Say it ain't so.

Time for a news roundup

Repellent vandals ruin it for everyone

The National Gallery has banned liquids except baby formula, expressed milk and prescription medicines after a number of attacks on paintings in its central London building.
The measure, in effect from Friday morning, comes in the wake of "physical damage" to its artworks by protesters.
"Unfortunately, we have now reached a point where we have been forced to act to protect our visitors, staff and collection," a spokesperson for the gallery said.
Protesters targeted the art museum on five separate occasions since July 2022.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67333047
Vincent van Gogh's Sunflowers, John Constable's The Hay Wain and Diego Velazquez's Rokeby Venus have all been damaged.
The spokesperson said: "Such attacks have caused physical damage to the artworks, distress to visitors and staff, and disruption to our mission to ensure great art is available for everyone, everywhere to enjoy.
"Two of these attacks have happened in the last two weeks and that is why we have taken the difficult and unfortunate decision to change the way we operate for the foreseeable future.
The gallery advised visitors to take "minimal items" with them, and said all bags would be inspected.
It said it was "sorry" to make this decision, and believed entry into the museum will now take longer.
Van Gogh's Sunflowers was targeted at the gallery which caused damage to the frame, estimated to be worth £10,000 to £20,000, and paintings, according to prosecutor James Bowker.
Three Just Stop Oil supporters, Stephen Simpson, of Bradford, West Yorkshire, Mary Somerville, also of Bradford, and Phillipa Green, of Penryn, Cornwall, all pleaded not guilty to criminal damage at Westminster Magistrates' Court last month.
The trio will next appear at Southwark Crown Court on 28 October.
This was shortly after two Just Stop Oil activists were jailed for pouring soup and causing £10,000 worth of damage in October 2022 to the frame of Sunflowers by the Dutch artist.
Phoebe Plummer was handed a two-year jail term, while Anna Holland was sentenced to 20 months.
Two supporters also glued themselves to Constable's The Hay Wain in July 2022.
Protesters allegedly smashed the glass protecting the Rokeby Venus, or The Toilet of Venus, and caused more than £6,000 of damage in November 2023.

Violent assaults, thefts etc. police cannot be arsed. Dickheads yelling shit at women from their cars the taxpayer can fund a full blown entrapment scheme. I do give them credit for calling it JogOn
Police are seizing cars from men for catcalling women out jogging who were undercover female officers in disguise in a crackdown on harassment.

Four cars were taken away by officers as part of an initiative to help women feel safer when out exercising, after a survey found 60 per cent of women feel intimidated when they go for a run.

West Yorkshire Police, in partnership with other bodies, has undercover female police officers posing as runners.

The hope is to make men 'think twice' about cat calling and making inappropriate comments to exercising women, especially from cars as they drive past.

The council said the JogOn initiative had run six operations since March to catch men, and said it is 'clear' that many don't even think the behaviour counts as harassment.

One of the men who was stopped even tried to give the excuse that he was 'encouraging the females to run'.


Many women feeling scared and intimidated and seek out alternative running routes or changing the times they go out to avoid cat calling, offensive comments and physical harassment.

Runners said they had come to accept it as the norm and did not report it to the police, as they did not feel it would be taken seriously or that no action would be taken.

The police have sent female officers out in plain clothes to run or jog in 'hotspot' areas.

Bradford Council can also enforce its Public Space Protection Order which bans the anti-social use of vehicles and includes 'shouting, swearing at, or abusing, threatening or intimidating another person – including using sexual language or making sexual suggestions' from a vehicle.

Offenders can receive a Fixed Penalty Notice or a £1,000 fine.


Running club members are also being offered Active Bystander training, which will equip witnesses to intervene when an incident is unfolding in front of them.

Superintendent Beth Pagnillo, of Bradford District Police, said: 'People might not think these behaviours are worth reporting but we want to make it clear that these behaviours and incidents can be reported, reviewed and investigated and will not be tolerated.

'With the PSPOs in Bradford, these behaviours can be reported, which could lead to a breach in PSPO, and an offence being committed.

'The enforcement, education and engagement undertaken through JogOn allows us to combine efforts through partnership working to tackle these behaviours, encouraging reporting by runners across the district but also to prevent incidents from happening in the first place.'

Cllr Abdul Jabar, Bradford Council's Portfolio Holder for Neighbourhoods and Community Safety, said: 'No woman should feel unsafe and intimidated when they are out running. Harassment and abusive behaviour is totally unacceptable and we will take action on anyone acting in this way.'

Tracy Brabin, Mayor of West Yorkshire, said: 'The safety of women and girls sits right at the heart of our mission for a safer, fairer West Yorkshire.

'We should all be able to enjoy the benefits exercise can bring, without fear of harassment or abuse.

'Our message remains absolutely clear - these behaviours are unacceptable. The Jog On campaign is reaffirming our commitment to that message and is a fantastic example of the strength of partnership working to improve the safety of women and girls.'

I've lost track, how many of our parties are pro-terrorism now? (it took them over a year to suspend her for this)
A Liberal Democrat councillor has been suspended by the party after sharing a social media message that appeared to celebrate the Hamas attack on Israel last October.
Leena Sarah Farhat, a member of Llanfairfechan town council in Conwy county, was also her party's candidate in Ynys Môn at the general election.
She told BBC Wales she had made a mistake in reposting the message on X, formerly known as Twitter.
The party said the original message was "deeply offensive and unacceptable".
About 1,200 people were killed during the attack on 7 October 2023, which Hamas called "Operation al-Aqsa Flood".
Hamas also took 251 hostages, of which 97 remain unaccounted for.
Over the past year nearly 42,000 people have been killed during Israel's retaliatory offensive in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run health ministry.
The message which Farhat shared was posted from a different X account on the anniversary of Hamas' assault.
It read: "Operation Al-Aqsa Flood is one of the most important, valiant, ground-shaking anti-colonial uprisings of our time.
"At the crack of dawn they flew over & burst through the colonial wall, outsmarting and striking a lightning rod blow to the tyrant Goliath.
"Long live the resistance."

A spokesman for the Liberal Democrats said the tweet was "deeply offensive and unacceptable" and did not "reflect the values of our party".

"This person has been suspended from the party while a complaint against them is investigated under our independent complaints process," he added.

Farhat said: "I made a mistake. I retweeted something and I un-retweeted it as soon as I realised but that obviously stays on people's timeline for a while.

"Somebody clearly found it and put in a complaint, which is justified, and all I can do is apologise. It was wholly inappropriate."

Scotland continuing to ignore the Cass review.
Scottish GPs have been told to refer children who wish to change gender to an LGBT activist group for “affirmative” counselling despite the findings of the Cass review.
New guidance issued to family doctors by NHS Lothian, Scotland’s second-largest health board, urges them to send 16-year-olds questioning their gender to LGBT Health and Wellbeing, a group which has promoted the transition of a five-year-old.
The charity states that it offers “LGBT+ informed and affirmative counselling” which does not involve “inappropriate curiosity or incorrect assumptions” about a person’s gender identity. Critics said the move contradicted the findings of the landmark Cass review, which the Scottish NHS had previously pledged to adopt.
If following the “affirmative” sessions patients as young as 16 still wish to transition, GPs are told to refer them to the Chalmers Gender Identity Clinic, which can recommend prescriptions of hormone treatments as soon as they turn 18.
Dr Hilary Cass’s review was seen as endorsing a move away from the “affirmative” model of care, which originated in the US and reinforces a patient’s “subjective gender experience”, which was previously widespread in gender clinics.
Her report for NHS England instead urged caution over social transition, for example when a young person changes their name and pronouns, raising fears it could push patients onto a potentially unnecessary medical pathway.

Dr Hilary Cass said the “toxic” transgender debate made the work of her review harder, write Michael Searles and Laura Donnelly.
The paediatric consultant said the report, which she has been working on for four years, resulted in her being “criticised” by all sides of the debate for considering the other’s viewpoint.
Dr Cass said the “toxicity of the debate is exceptional” in the foreword of the long-awaited report.
She said there were “few other areas of healthcare where professionals are so afraid to openly discuss their views, where people are vilified on social media, and where name-calling echoes the worst bullying behaviour”.
Dr Cass, the former president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, began her review into children’s transgender health services in January 2020.
Her final report, published more than four years later, came with a plea for the toxic debate to come to end. “This must stop,” she said.
“Despite the best intentions of everyone with a stake in this complex issue, the toxicity of the debate is exceptional,” she wrote. “I have faced criticism for engaging with groups and individuals who take a social justice approach and advocate for gender affirmation, and have equally been criticised for involving groups and individuals who urge more caution.”
She said the “polarisation and stifling of debate do nothing to help the young people caught in the middle of a stormy social discourse”.
She also said the toxicity around the subject would “hamper the research that is essential to finding the best way of supporting” those affected.
An underlying theme of the Cass review is the vast amount of missing evidence available from which to draw any conclusions, including the use of powerful puberty blocking drugs and other hormone treatments, as well as social transitioning – where children are allowed to use the pronouns of their preferred gender, dress accordingly, and choose which facilities such as toilets and changing rooms to use –- and other interventions.
“This is an area of remarkably weak evidence, and yet results of studies are exaggerated or misrepresented by people on all sides of the debate to support their viewpoint,” she said.
“The reality is that we have no good evidence on the long-term outcomes of interventions to manage gender related distress.”
Writing for the BMJ she concludes: “Gender medicine for children and young people is built on shaky foundations”.

Rather than an exclusively affirmative approach, Dr Cass called for in-depth “holistic and personal” assessments to interrogate underlying reasons for gender distress.
“Telling GPs to send confused 16-year-olds to activist groups for ‘affirmative’ counselling flies in the face of the Cass review findings and the assurances the health board had given at Holyrood as recently as last month,” Trina Budge, a director at the For Women Scotland campaign group, said.
“For the NHS to be sending vulnerable patients to partisan lobbyists which promote the transition of five-year-olds and have described puberty blockers as ‘wonderful’ is utterly reckless.”
Elsewhere in the new guidelines, it is stated that GPs in Lothian, Borders and Fife will be expected to assume responsibility for prescribing hormone treatments, following an assessment at the Chalmers clinic.
Many GPs have warned that they do not have the expertise to prescribe the treatments, which are often unlicensed for gender dysphoria, while there is also a lack of credible evidence for their long-term safety.
The NHS Lothian guidelines also recommend that 16 to 25-year-olds are referred to a group run by LGBT Youth Scotland, a controversial charity which opposes Cass and has described puberty blockers as “wonderful”.
https://archive.ph/o/N4pBb/https://...s-trans-care-must-be-slower-says-cass-report/

A West Lothian group called “Glitter Cannons” has also been recommended for children as young as 12, with GPs directed to a social media page that includes attacks on JK Rowling and ideological statements such as “trans men are men”.
Family doctors have been told that they must not include information on “gender history” in reports to insurance companies, which are often sought to assess the health of patients before offering cover.
Last month, Tracey Gillies, NHS Lothian’s medical director, told MSPs at Holyrood that assessments for those reporting gender dysphoria needed to have “really quite significant rigour”.
The prescription of puberty blockers and hormones to under 18s has been suspended in Scotland following the findings of the Cass review, though groups such as LGBT Youth Scotland are lobbying for the ban to be lifted.
Ms Budge added: “It appears that rather than Cass review being adopted in full, as had been promised, ideologues are still calling the shots in the Scottish NHS.
“It is high time that the adults in the Scottish Government and Scotland’s NHS stepped in and put an end to this scandal.”
The new guidelines published by NHS Lothian state that the Chalmers, set up to deal with adult patients, are “happy” to see patients from 17 and will accept referrals for 16-year-olds.
While it is stated 17-year-olds cannot receive gender-affirming hormones, they can “still be seen for assessment and to provide other treatments”, the guidelines state.
It is advised that those under 16 are sent to the Sandyford in Glasgow, which has been branded the “tartan Tavistock”.

LGBT Health and Wellbeing includes on its website a positive account from a parent who allowed their daughter to transition to live as a boy called Freddie at five years old.
The article states: “In 2013 I let my five year old change their name, choose their own clothes, cut their hair short and style it like Robin from Batman. They learnt to swim in trunks, not a costume.
“I let them tell others they were a boy now. I told others they are a boy now. I allowed a child to believe what they felt was maleness absolutely is maleness even if their tiny body didn’t match.”
Dr Tracey Gillies, Medical Director, NHS Lothian said, “We are fully supportive of the Cass Review and its recommendations, as well as the DCMO report.
“NHS Lothian GPs do not make patient referrals to third party community-based organisations in relation to gender identity. GPs are provided with information on a number of established and mainstream LGBT organisations that may be helpful for patients and which they can signpost them to.”
 
Just spout off the most offensive anti-PC scree you can get away with and walk away triumphantly.
That example's not anti-PC since it's meant to irk a parody of a lunatic church so they'd applaud half of it. But I agree with your point.
 
Good thing that there isn't a £20 billion black hole in public finances and we can use our tax money to fund a load of faggots to fly abroad to interfere with a foreign election.

Oh wait!
 
Good thing that there isn't a £20 billion black hole in public finances and we can use our tax money to fund a load of faggots to fly abroad to interfere with a foreign election.

Oh wait!
If Corbyn was in charge the only black hole he’d be concerned about is Diane Abbott’s.

I’m sorry. I’ll see myself out.
 
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