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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[The Gene Genie]

As said, Labour are getting pulled up on shit left and right and they are just brushing it all off because they know they can be caught do whatever shit they want and they’ll still win comfortably even though literally no one likes or has faith in them because the Tories messed up that bad in the pandemic.

The only way Labour could lose at this point is by not running and they’d likely win even then somehow.

The only way I see a Labour defeat is if the progtard wing actually revolts against Starmer not being 100% completely progtarded.

For what it's worth I really don't see how Labour could be any worse than the Tories at this point. At most it would be the same shit just with a red paint.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

All right, to achieve a Labour loss at this point at an absolute minimum here are the following things that needs to happen.

Kier Stamer explains we are rejoining the EU. The requirements demanded to open negotiations are that we become a Republic with Prince Harry Meghan Markle as the constitutional head. All who had prior claims to the position were the usual chain of succession followed are beheaded and their assets turned over to the EU to redistribute and a number of even more horrific things. Again, opening negotiations. What will be demanded will be worse and no deal is legally barred as an option.

The NHS is completely defunded and replaced by the WHO who also have automatic veto powers over the decisions of any elected officials.

Unemployed becomes a protected class.

Sexual emergencies become a valid defence for rape.

Existing while white is criminalised.

 

[The Gene Genie]

All right, to achieve a Labour loss at this point at an absolute minimum here are the following things that needs to happen.

Kier Stamer explains we are rejoining the EU. The requirements demanded to open negotiations are that we become a Republic with Prince Harry Meghan Markle as the constitutional head. All who had prior claims to the position were the usual chain of succession followed are beheaded and their assets turned over to the EU to redistribute and a number of even more horrific things. Again, opening negotiations. What will be demanded will be worse and no deal is legally barred as an option.

The NHS is completely defunded and replaced by the WHO who also have automatic veto powers over the decisions of any elected officials.

Unemployed becomes a protected class.

Sexual emergencies become a valid defence for rape.

Existing while white is criminalised.

He even walked back on trying to get rid of the House of Lords, much to the chagrin of the Corbynites. Your proposal is probably a hope and prayer of Rishi and the Tories.

 

[East_Clintwood]

I can see this happening. The YouGov MRPs have been pretty good in the past.

Labour winning, absolutely. Labour winning with 400+ seats is what makes it a pipe dream for me. Unless the Israel/palestine shitshow ends soon, and/or Corbyn somehow finds a way to whip the party into toeing the line, I think they're just too prone to fucking themselves over to win by that much.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

He even walked back on trying to get rid of the House of Lords, much to the chagrin of the Corbynites. Your proposal is probably a hope and prayer of Rishi and the Tories.

I have to assume that Rishi and co. want his win too. Can't see any other reason for bringing back David Cameron, a man whose only positive trait is he gets on well with Jeremy Clarkson.

Most of the Tory MPs already have their new "jobs" lined up and Labour not winning will be very inconvenient.

 

[Amin Yasister]

30 years ago, in general MP's would serve their constituents. 13 years ago many started to serve themselves, and to hell with their constituents.

Then Ministers did the same, and to Hell with the country they were voted in to run.

I honestly think recovery will take years. Long term drug addicts and alcoholics can be sorted out far quicker.

 

[The Gene Genie]

I have to assume that Rishi and co. want his win too. Can't see any other reason for bringing back David Cameron, a man whose only positive trait is he gets on well with Jeremy Clarkson.

Most of the Tory MPs already have their new "jobs" lined up and Labour not winning will be very inconvenient.

They’ve been playing as being the Opposition Party for the past few years anyway. Everything that goes wrong is Labour’s fault, or some other vague entity that surely isn’t them. It’s about all they’re good for.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Labour winning, absolutely. Labour winning with 400+ seats is what makes it a pipe dream for me. Unless the Israel/palestine shitshow ends soon, and/or Corbyn somehow finds a way to whip the party into toeing the line, I think they're just too prone to fucking themselves over to win by that much.

I'm still sticking to my prediction of a hung parliament, minority labour government, or (to now hedge my bets a little more) very slender majority for labour. The polls predicting a landslide are assuming the same circumstances as the Tory defeat in 97, when Blair was still an unknown quantity and projected a squeaky clean image through total control of the party's entire PR apparatus. Starmer doesn't have that advantage. His own party briefs against him, there are obvious splits within the cabinet and the party, and people still don't trust labour enough on key issues. We'll see a lot of votes for minnow parties with no chance to win, which will cut into what would otherwise be safe majorities. Lib Dems will make up a lot of seats, but not enough to play kingmaker like previous elections.

Ed: you can see the infighting whenever starmer tries to position the party on middle class issues. He inevitably starts walking back policy ideas in the face of potential revolt from the left of the party, which makes him look ineffectual and indecisive to the people he was targeting, but also makes him look bad to the working class, who value a principled stand even if they disagree with it. The "you know where you stand with him" effect. If he can't capture that, winning becomes significantly harder

 

[Product Placement]

I'm not really sure how the Tories could win short of Labour themselves snatching defeat from victory. They've been in charge for over a decade and things have gotten substantially worse.

They can't, it's all about minimising losses. Rishi Sunak is trying to hold out as long as he can, in hopes that his economic plan has some benefits for public and the Rwanda deals gets past so can point to that, even if the costs of deporting one person is idiotically high, as long as it has the optics he is doing something.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/01/rwanda-plan-uk-asylum-seeker-cost-figures

Reality is, every week seems they are polling worse, with a possibility they may have less than 100 seats with ReformUK splitting the vote in many areas with them. Right now is a good chance of Rishi himself losing his seat, which is embarrassing.

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-conservatives-polling-below-100-seats-survey-shows/

They could make a deal with ReformUK to not compete in the same areas, but don't see them biting for that, not like that will help Tories win unlike how the Brexit party was able to help a Tory win over Labour in 2018. However it will hurt Reforms growth, and hurt their chances of becoming a real replacement party for them. This is the key reason why Labour has a good shot at 400 seats+.

Due to the shit polling, have lot of people under threat of losing their seats, getting desperate and want someone to replace, issue is everyone who wants the role doesn't want to lead the party into a loss they will still face, and anyone with a brain can see this will just piss off the public even more, to have 3 PM in a row that public didn't vote for.

The only person who would take the role is someone who wants the £100k a year being PM for any amount of time would give him. Anyone serious wants to lead the party after the next election.


The issue Labour has is that people right now aren't voting changing their vote to Labour because they support them, but because Conservative have pushed them too far. If Labour want to say in power once they win, they really need to do something about that, especially on immigration both legal and illegal, which is a key reason why Conservative party won over them in the past. Also Keir Starmer is like toast with nothing on it, no one hates it, but is is rather bland and leaves no impression.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

Legal immigration is why labour lost last time, they pushed to bring in people from Eastern Europe who had relatives who experienced socialism, who's parents had experienced the gulags.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

The issue Labour has is that people right now aren't voting changing their vote to Labour because they support them, but because Conservative have pushed them too far.

Very few people are changing their vote from Conservative to Labour. I think the driver of the polls is that Conservative voters are saying they won't vote at all next time.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

The only way I see a Labour defeat is if the progtard wing actually revolts against Starmer not being 100% completely progtarded.

For what it's worth I really don't see how Labour could be any worse than the Tories at this point. At most it would be the same shit just with a red paint.

Funnily enough....

 

[Product Placement]

Very few people are changing their vote from Conservative to Labour. I think the driver of the polls is that Conservative voters are saying they won't vote at all next time.

I think many of those that vote for Conservatives purely on immigration I bet will be changing their vote to Labour, just based on how hard they have been fucked financial in the past few years. Once they are no longer feels these issues or they doesn't get better under Labour, they will just switch their votes again.

However those who in the past have vote Conservative in the past based on more than just immigration, will be staying with them, switching to Reform or like you said not voting at all.

 

[Foltest]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fxBEaJWJNJk
Funnily enough....

I only know about him as an outsider, but this Jones fellow is one of the biggest twats.
Totally unable to stop sucking off palestians.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

Owen Jones is one of the biggest faggots on the planet and loves sucking off politicians. He is right about Labour but like a faggot draws it out. Labour sucks because they have no clear vision and Kier is not trustworthy. He is also a staunch commie, so I would not piss on him if he was on fire.

Better dead than red!

 

[EddyRooney]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53532559

Old news, but wonder why he got attacked outside the pub. Not condoning violence, but you can bet that Jones is one of those insufferable, loud and annoying types that likes to project his views and spoil other people's nights out.
Given his lust for the limelight and self publicity, the narcissit probably stuck his oar in to the Chelsea fans' conversation - it isn't hard to see why the neanderthal thumped him, even if he didn't know his political allegiances or sexual proclivities.

 

[Amin Yasister]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53532559

Old news, but wonder why he got attacked outside the pub. Not condoning violence, but you can bet that Jones is one of those insufferable, loud and annoying types that likes to project his views and spoil other people's nights out.
Given his lust for the limelight and self publicity, the narcissit probably stuck his oar in to the Chelsea fans' conversation - it isn't hard to see why the neanderthal thumped him, even if he didn't know his political allegiances or sexual proclivities.

I had no idea who this bloke is. But if he spilt my pint and was "un-apologetic", I'd have thumped him too.

I'm sure the prision sentence was harsh because who Jones was, not because of the assault itself.

From what I have just read of him, Jones sounds like just the sort of person everyone has the right to punch

 

[Chaos Theorist]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53082530

Its funny seeing pensioners seethe over the idea of getting rid of the triple lock

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53082530

Its funny seeing pensioners seethe over the idea of getting rid of the triple lock

Don't be a dumbfag.

We see a lot of hate for 'boomers' and the older generation, or ideas where we should take pensions away from old people because "lol they've had their time", but when we get old, when we cash our pensions, they won't be there, because dumbfags believed the rhetoric that "pensions bad".

To put it into context, the 'fifties women' - those who were robbed of five years of their pensions because they should have retired at 60 but the government rug-pulled them and swapped it to 65, a pension that equated to on average, £45,000. These people won't be compensated because the government has said it could cost upwards of £10 billion.
It will cost us £100 billion to house immigrants until 2030.

The priorities are not with the pensions now, let alone when we retire in 10, 20, 30 years or more. There are already talks of increasing the male pension age to 72.
Seventy-fucking-two. We will work until we die because we laughed at, seethed at and blamed 'boomers' for our ills.

The yewf has never been as retarded.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53532559

Old news, but wonder why he got attacked outside the pub. Not condoning violence, but you can bet that Jones is one of those insufferable, loud and annoying types that likes to project his views and spoil other people's nights out.
Given his lust for the limelight and self publicity, the narcissit probably stuck his oar in to the Chelsea fans' conversation - it isn't hard to see why the neanderthal thumped him, even if he didn't know his political allegiances or sexual proclivities.

"Far right extremists have been responsible for murder, attempted murder, terrorist plots and violence.

"That threat is not taken seriously because it means having to ask searching questions of who is responsible for radicalising them. That must end," he said.

Owen, you radicalized them.

To put it into context, the 'fifties women' - those who were robbed of five years of their pensions because they should have retired at 60 but the government rug-pulled them and swapped it to 65, a pension that equated to on average, £45,000.

The poor darlings, being treated the same as the men.