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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Another day, another dead child. Fuck the mother, her partner and the useless police.


A mother and her partner have been convicted of killing her nine-year-old son in the bath after months of abuse.
Alfie Steele was found unresponsive at his home in Droitwich, Worcestershire, in February 2021.
Dirk Howell, 41, was found guilty of murdering the young boy and his mother, Carla Scott, was convicted of his manslaughter.
Jurors cleared her of Alfie's murder. They were told by the judge they would never have to sit on a jury again.
After weeks of hearing horrific details of the nine-year-old's final months, the jury deliberated for 10 hours over the verdicts.
Alfie was subjected to a cruel discipline regime and had more than 50 injuries on his body when he died.
His punishments included beatings, being forced to stand outside and being dunked head first in cold baths, Coventry Crown Court heard.


The family was known to social services - not least because Howell had an order in place preventing him from staying at the house, which he routinely flouted.
Neighbours also made repeated calls to police after hearing screaming and crying coming from both inside and outside the family home.
A safeguarding review will now explore what more could have been done to save Alfie.

Visibly distressed, Alfie's grandfather Paul Scott read a family statement to reporters outside court.
"It fills us with immense sadness that we will never be able to see that same cheeky smile again," he said.
"Losing Alfie has left a massive void in our lives. To think that we will never be able to hug him and watch him grow into an accomplished young man causes us such anguish.
"We miss him so much."

Alfie's grandfather Paul Scott said Alfie had left a massive void
The court had heard emergency services arrived at the home on Vashon Drive at about 14:30 GMT on 18 February but paramedics were unable to revive him.
Although an exact cause of death could not be ascertained, evidence strongly suggested he died after being dunked in the freezing cold water.
Scott, 35, claimed Alfie had fallen asleep while enjoying a warm bath. However, his injuries and low body temperature - 23C (73F) - indicated a different story.
The trial heard Scott struck up a relationship with Howell in 2019 and his discipline regime quickly escalated during 2020, when the country went into lockdown during the Covid pandemic.
Jurors heard harrowing 999 calls from neighbours who tried to raise the alarm, before Alfie eventually died from the brutal regime.
Some neighbours heard him screaming as he was forced into the cold baths and others reported seeing him standing in the garden at night "like a statue" while being berated by Howell.

He had admitted four counts of child cruelty, but Scott repeatedly maintained her innocence. As well as manslaughter, the jury convicted her of child cruelty.
Alfie's mother was in tears as she was taken down to the cells, but Howell, of Princip Drive, Aston, Birmingham, showed no visible emotion.
Outside court, Det Ch Insp Leighton Harding said Alfie "suffered the most horrifying physical and emotional abuse" and it was "unimaginable to consider the fear and distress he must have felt during the events that led to his collapse".
"Alfie should have expected unconditional love and protection of Scott, yet she deliberately neglected his needs, choosing to prioritise her own needs and relationship with Howell, knowing the cruel treatment he was inflicting on Alfie," he added.
Det Ch Insp Harding said the case had not been referred to the Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC), because it "did not meet the criteria", despite officers' contact with the family.

West Mercia Police will come under scrutiny in a review, said Det Ch Insp Harding
"We are of course committed to learning from this sad case," he said, adding the force would be complying with the forthcoming safeguarding review.
Stephen Eccleston, independent chair of Worcestershire Safeguarding Children Partnership, said the team was "shocked and saddened by the death of Alfie".
"On behalf of the partnership, I would like to take this opportunity to pass on our condolences to Alfie's family."
He said the review would be published later this year.
Nigel Huddleston, MP for Mid-Worcestershire, described the case as "absolutely horrendous".
"We must endeavour to learn lessons from Alfie's murder to help ensure that such a horrific event never happens again," he added.
Judge Mr Justice Mark Wall said Howell and Scott would be sentenced on Thursday.
 

The Fail has helpfully compiled what appears to be everything in the public domain about Alfie's last months and death. Neighbours repeatedly contacted police in fear for Alfie's safety. There can be no argument that authorities were not aware of what was happening.

Alfie was allowed to die. Alfie was compelled to continue to live with the violent abusers who eventually murdered him.

Alfie should not have been living at home. Alfie should have been removed. The failure to remove children who are clearly in danger at home kills at least one kid every week in the UK.

No lessons will be learnt, because the answer is "more money for more residential places" and no one wants to spend that money. No lessons will be learnt. Nothing will change. The next murder will be in the papers in a few weeks, and there will be the same "lessons will be learnt". They never are.
 
This caught my eye today
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Story is pretty grim but what really struck me was how blatant the opinion forcing for want of a better term for it (astroturfing?) is. Just look at how the article is written. Some quotes;
“MPs have called for Britain's 'out-of-date' abortion legislation to be reviewed”
Then there’s a big lead link to this story;
“READ MORE: 'Women should not be criminalised for a medical procedure': MPs are told to overhaul 'terrifying' Victorian law used to jail mother-of-three who ended her pregnancy in lockdown
Criminalised for a medical procedure no. Aborting illegally a 34 week old baby yes.
So let’s go look at that story as well.
Archive. https://archive.is/EHz6E
Let’s look at the language and ideas being presented a s givens’ here.

Parliament should consider overhauling abortion laws as a priority after a woman was jailed for terminating her pregnancy after the legal limit, senior female MPs said today.
Campaigners also demanded the procedure be completely decriminalised as the threat is 'archaic' and 'terrifying' for women.”
Look at that statement. That’s not a request it’s what they’re going to do and they’re warming the public up for it.
“'We have to have long, cold hard look about why we still allow a Victorian era law to prevail in the 21st century when just across the way in Northern Ireland we have done away with that'.”
It goes and on and on. Loads of statements about how laws from 1861! So archaic! As of only a modern law is a good thing.
This is an example of the ‘small country wedge.’ NI had this legislation rammed through after a really unusual maternal death case. This is what lobbyists do. They find a small country that’s adjacent to a larger one or the EU and they get extreme laws through then they turn round and say ‘look, Scotland / Malta/ NI does this why can’t you?’ Just go look at the alphabet laws in Malta it’s insane.
So here’s my prediction: they’re going to be decriminalising abortion in the UK. Expect a LOT more stories in the press abpit hpwbterribly archaic our laws are and the next few cases of tragic death will be plastered all over the press. They must have expanded the nudge units so much because their work is really clunky these days. Total lack of subtlety, you can see how this second article was written with pre written sections of text
 

Nadine Dorries is no longer "resigning with immediate effect", since her name was removed from Boris' resignation honours list. She claims she still intends to resign, but that she's requested all copies of correspondence regarding her removal from the list, and she wants to "take the time to properly consider the information I am provided". Given there's absolutely no reason why she can't take that time after her resignation (indeed if anything she'd have more of it without her MP duties), my guess is she's looking for some reason to rescind her resignation.

There's also some controversy around one of Boris' other picks, as a 29yr old former nobody intern has been given a life peerage, and people wanna know why. Leading theories are either that she's Boris' lovechild, or that he was shagging her on the side.

Also Rees-Mogg got a knighthood so I expect a bunch of lefty kvetching about that as well. God bless BoJo continuing in bringing the drama even when gone.
 
If you've ever seen that video of him as a kid, he comes off as autistic, with his special interest in his own words being money. I think he's been known to get involved in issues around autism housing etc, so I think it's more or less an open secret that he is. If he's that autistic then he just doesn't have it in him to consider what other people think of him.

Re: Charlotte Owen, the rumour about being his secret child is because he's got loads of them (eight legitimate, a speculated two out there) but also because Owen was his first wife's maiden name, and Charlotte was Boris's mother's name. However apparently People's World looked into her and her dad is a guy called Michael Tranter-Owen instead. It's a big coincidence though I admit ... but I think they've been shagging. Rishi Sunak will also have had to sign off on it as well - I can't imagine why he'd sign off on helping boris's lovehchild, or why boris would prioritise her over his other legitimate kids, but she could be involved with Rishi as well. Boris offered his now-wife Carrie a job at number 10 when they were just beginning their affair, so maybe they haven't shagged yet and this is an incentive.


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Lara Johnson - Wheeler (Boris' daughter, facial resemblance?)

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Carrie Symonds - Johnson - now wife - could also be his type
 
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My gob has been smacked by abortion activists choosing the Carla Foster case as their hill to die on.

The sentencing remarks demonstrate the actual facts of the case as opposed to the astroturfed BS: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/R-v.-Foster-sentencing-remarks-12.6.23.pdf

She basically made the incel abortion trope come true: induced labour in the hope of killing a basically full term baby in an attempt to hide baby's paternity from her partner. This conduct is completely outwith the bounds of defensible, let alone justifiable.

34 weeks is not an abortion. That's straight up infanticide. It amazes me that anyone is trying to defend this. There isn't even any compelling justification: no fatal foetal abnormality or such. Just straight up paternity issues.

I think she did very well indeed to only get 28 months, only 14 of which will be in the jail. She killed a baby. She had three kids already: she knew damn well a 34 weeker is clearly a baby. A small and delicate one, maybe, but someone you would fully expect to take home inside a week or two.

I've been on the fucking pro choice marches and I am totally appalled at the idea that this is in any way excusable. No fucking way should there be any "liberalisation" that allows this shit.

She could have left baby in the hospital, signed the voluntary care agreement, and walked out and never seen baby again. But no. They had to die. Absolutely psycho.
 
One day you'll take this thought to its logical conclusion. Hopefully.

Don't go on any more.
It's not a choice I have ever made for myself. It's a choice a lot of other people do make. There is a broad UK public consensus that early abortion should remain legal. 34 weeks is not early.

I have had miscarriages, and live births. Not comparable. Anyone who has ever been pregnant who says it was exactly the same thing at six to eight weeks as it was at 34 is a fucking liar. It's not the same. There's a baby in there. They have a noticeable sleep cycle, they respond to you. There is a reason abortion everywhere has term limits. The UK has one of the most permissive term limits in the world. She got prosecuted because it was not clear whether or not this was legally infanticide. I can't and I won't defend that.

Carla Foster's conduct is indefensible and I do not understand why even such people as Stella Creasy are going to the mat on this one. If you want to pick a martyr, pick a bloody good one.
 
Carla Foster's conduct is indefensible
Just like everyone else who gets an abortion. Yes, even people who've been raped. Being raped does not entitled you to commit murder.

Not discussing this, it just needs to be said more. People not thinking abortion is murder reminds me of people who think men can be women. Everyone thinks they are mad now. Unless we stop things it will be accepted as the norm. "Cutting off a child's testicle is fine as long as they are at least 13" yeah no, fuck off, it's wrong full stop.

And no statistics about how many people have been brainwashed to think it's right (public consensus) will change that.
 
@Otterly

My gob has been smacked by abortion activists choosing the Carla Foster case as their hill to die on.

The sentencing remarks demonstrate the actual facts of the case as opposed to the astroturfed BS: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/R-v.-Foster-sentencing-remarks-12.6.23.pdf

She basically made the incel abortion trope come true: induced labour in the hope of killing a basically full term baby in an attempt to hide baby's paternity from her partner. This conduct is completely outwith the bounds of defensible, let alone justifiable.

34 weeks is not an abortion. That's straight up infanticide. It amazes me that anyone is trying to defend this. There isn't even any compelling justification: no fatal foetal abnormality or such. Just straight up paternity issues.

I think she did very well indeed to only get 28 months, only 14 of which will be in the jail. She killed a baby. She had three kids already: she knew damn well a 34 weeker is clearly a baby. A small and delicate one, maybe, but someone you would fully expect to take home inside a week or two.

I've been on the fucking pro choice marches and I am totally appalled at the idea that this is in any way excusable. No fucking way should there be any "liberalisation" that allows this shit.

She could have left baby in the hospital, signed the voluntary care agreement, and walked out and never seen baby again. But no. They had to die. Absolutely psycho.
I don't want to go all mean here but I'm pretty sure that most abortion activist *want* abortion up until birth. They just shuffle around the issue when anyone talks about it, calling such concerns "unrealistic".

Anyway, I talked to my mother about it and she was absolutely disgusted.
 
She'd still have had to explain to her husband why she went to the hospital and came back with no baby; maybe he would have wanted to be there for the birth if he thought it was his, which I assume he did. I believe I read that she scheduled an appointment several times then cancelling because she kept changing her mind, as well, within the allowable period.

I think everyone running to show support is spooked by the rollbacks in the US, and thinking that literally any 'exceptions' will be used to do the same here. I can definitely see why they'd feel that way - quite a lot of backbenchers take donations from the US anti-abortion crowd and have for years. They will be there to jump on the opportunity if there is one. In terms of the actual case, though, I think she did wrong.
 

Former head of police watchdog charged with rape

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The former head of the police watchdog has been charged with raping a girl under 16 and indecent assault.
Michael Lockwood, 64, is accused of six counts of indecent assault and three counts of rape against a girl under 16.
He left the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) in December after it emerged he was being investigated over a historical allegation.

His lawyers said he "strenuously denies" the allegations.
The nine offences allegedly took place between October 1985 and March 1986, the Crown Prosecution Service said.
Rosemary Ainslie, head of the special crime division at the CPS, said: "After carefully considering all of the evidence provided to us by Humberside Police, we have authorised charges against Michael Lockwood, 64, for nine offences under the Sexual Offences Act 1956.

"Mr Lockwood has been charged with six counts of indecent assault and three offences of rape against a girl under the age of 16, alleged to have been committed during the 1980s.

"The Crown Prosecution Service reminds all concerned that criminal proceedings against Mr Lockwood are active and that he has the right to a fair trial."

Mr Lockwood is due to appear at Hull Magistrates' Court on 28 June.
Emma Brooks, partner at the law firm PCB Byrne, said: "Mr Lockwood strenuously denies all of these allegations from nearly 40 years ago.

"He will strongly defend his position and will continue to co-operate with the proceedings."
The IOPC said it was aware of the charges, adding: "Mr Lockwood was IOPC director general from 2018 to 2022, but as a Crown appointee, not employed by the IOPC.

"As criminal proceedings are active, we are unable to comment any further."
He was the first person appointed to lead the the organisation when it replaced the Independent Police Complaints Commission in 2018.

It handles the most serious complaints against police in England and Wales.
Before that, he worked in a range of central and local government roles, including being the chief executive of Harrow Council, in north-west London.

After the Grenfell Tower fire in 2017, Mr Lockwood was asked by a government task force to lead the recovery and remediation work and liaise with the bereaved families and survivors.
 

“I wish I had been involved in the ‘Meghan and Harry leave Spotify’ negotiation. ‘The Fucking Grifters.’ That’s the podcast we should have launched with them,” Simmons said on his podcast, the Bill Simmons podcast. “I have got to get drunk one night and tell the story of the Zoom I had with Harry to try and help him with a podcast idea. It’s one of my best stories … Fuck them. The grifters... You live in fucking Montecito and you just sell documentaries and podcasts and nobody cares what you have to say about anything unless you talk about the royal family and you just complain about them.”
 
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she knew damn well a 34 weeker is clearly a baby. A small and delicate one, maybe, but someone you would fully expect to take home inside a week or two.
I am pretty sure that the survival rate of 34 seekers now is as close to those of full term as makes no difference. Birth at 34 weeks means a week or two in NICU to make sure you’re ok then home you go.
Carla Foster's conduct is indefensible and I do not understand why even such people as Stella Creasy are going to the mat on this one.
Because they ARE going to liberalise the laws. Just read the two articles I linked - it’s a clear ‘ministers told’ - it’s going to happen
People not thinking abortion is murder reminds me of people who think men can be women.
Abortion is always killing. Killing is always wrong. Sometimes, and it’s not often, we say that killing can be justified. If someone breaks into your home and tries to kill you and you shoot them dead, you have killed them, but you were right. To me, abortion is similar. It is always killing. There may be a very few cases where that is the lesser evil - the very rare ones where the mothers health is threatened, septic abortions, very young girls where it’s too high a risk of catastrophic damage. Wr already have those exceptions in law and we do not need the law changed
The UK already has a very liberal law on this - it’s basically by choice up to 24 weeks, far higher than most of Europe. Most are the first few weeks and post 18 weeks is almost exclusively much-wanted babies who are found to have catastrophic, unsurviveable defects at the 20 week anatomy scan. We absolutely should not loosen this any more than it is.
Carla foster is a murderer, and this is a terrible case to pick as a hill to die on. Mildly heartened by the comments section, which is almost exclusively horrified by what she did.
 

'Is my baby going to die?': Devastated mother reveals final words of pregnant woman pushed to her death off Arthur's Seat by 'evil' husband who hated his wife's independence

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The mother of a pregnant woman who was pushed to her death off Arthur's Seat by her abusive husband has revealed the final words her daughter said before her death.

Fawziyah Javed, 31, and her unborn child died after she was shoved from the famous peak in Edinburgh by Kashif Anwar, 29, in September 2021.

Anwar, from Leeds, was found guilty of the murder after a trial at the High Court in Edinburgh. He was given a life sentence in April and ordered to serve at least 20 years in prison.

In her first television interview, Ms Javed's mother Yasmin Javed told BBC Newsnight her daughter had contacted divorce lawyers and had made voice recordings of Anwar being abusive.

She said she will never forget her daughter's last words asking 'Am I going to die? Is my baby going to die?'.

Mrs Javed said: 'The words go round around my head every single day. Alongside the grief and pain, I can't get them words out of my mind.'

The BBC reported that in one of the voice recordings Anwar can be heard telling his wife not to challenge him, saying: 'Don't challenge me, do not be that British woman.'

Her daughter, who was about 17 weeks pregnant when she died, used her last words to tell a passerby it was her abusive husband who caused her to fall about 50ft before her body came to a rest.

Daniyah Rafique, 24, managed to reach the dying employment lawyer on the side of the hill, where she was told: 'Don't let my husband near me, he pushed me.'

Giving evidence during the trial Mrs Javed said Anwar was 'abusive, controlling, manipulative, aggressive and violent' towards her daughter. She told the BBC that he did not like the fact his wife was independent.

Mrs Javed said: 'He didn't like the fact that Fawzi had her own voice, her own opinions. He didn't like that.'

She said her daughter had contacted divorce lawyers to 'get the ball rolling' but Anwar always said he would never divorce her. The mother told the BBC: 'He used to say to Fawziyah, we don't have divorces in our family, we don't divorce, we stay in marriages, no matter what.'

Sentencing Anwar earlier this year, Lord Beckett said he had committed a 'wicked crime' and had showed no remorse.

He told him: 'She was willing to trust that you would keep her safe when she agreed to accompany you on your project to climb Arthur's Seat despite a fear of heights and being pregnant.

'She was entitled to expect your protection and support.'

Lord Beckett added: 'As a result of your actions, Fawziyah Javed died far from home on a Scottish hillside and her loving family are left devastated and will never be the same again.

'Had she lived she would have given birth to your child some months later, but that life was also extinguished by you.'
 
Your man doesn't offer to take you a walk up Salisbury Crags for a good reason.

Lovely spot to top yourself though, especially if you can time it nicely on a sunny day as the dusk starts to draw in. Edinburgh University moved the first years' halls of residence years ago because it had such a lovely view of the Crags out of the windows of the homesick youngsters nursing their first broken hearts.
 
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