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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Interesting article about Penny Mordaunt in the spectator:
The clouds have cleared, the fog has lifted, clarity has arrived. The first reaction to finding out Penny Mordaunt was well ahead in the polls and the favourite to win the leadership contest – ‘who again?’ – has passed. But after reading a little of her work, I am now convinced that Penny Mordaunt would make a great leader – of the Labour party. For the Conservatives, she would be a complete disaster.

There is little in Mordaunt’s public record that suggests she is particularly amenable to Conservative views. The core thrust of her book (written with Chris Lewis) is that Britain needs to be ‘modernised’ – a word that to conservatives generally signals ‘made more amenable to Blairites’.

The Houses of Parliament? Why, they’re ‘about as out of touch with a modern democracy as it’s possible to be’. The government should set ‘regional economic growth targets’. The various Orders of the British Empire? Well they should have been abolished long ago: ‘even when we recognise an issue… we are slow to change’. The ‘stuff of which our dreams, history and culture are made’? According to Mordaunt, they include ‘Minority achievement’, as illustrated by the famously British Barack Obama, Boudicca, and Marcus Rashford. And how do you get things done? You ‘need national missions to be codified, like the UN’s Development Goals.’

Intriguingly, Mordaunt’s book lists any number of reasons why British people should be patriotic: ‘pride in the NHS, the countryside, diversity, pubs, the armed forces or the BBC.’ British history is notably absent from this list, as in fact is the presence of culture or institutions not owned or licensed by the state.

This is not a terribly conservative view of the world, which would explain why the book’s introductory pages are filled with praise from Elton John and Tony Blair, and a foreword from Bill Gates. The omission of history as a reason for pride is probably not an accident: the Kenneth Clark series Civilisation is described as explaining ‘how superior Oxford-educated British middle-aged white men were.’ Beloved sitcoms Dad’s Army and Hi-de-Hi! are dismissed as ‘churned out’ programmes, while ‘the legacy of the past’ apparently consists of ‘pub opening times, football racism, casual violence’.

In fact, the big problem facing Britain is that ‘most of our leaders are drawn from a narrow background’, educated in the last century. These leaders are not suited to the challenge of modernising Britain, coming as they did from a ‘heterosexual, white, Christian, Western-orientated’ world, where ‘there was no mansplaining. No white privilege. No colonial historiography’. Many attended universities which ‘teach a Western reductionist model of thinking… they don’t teach empathy, humility, or integrity’. This education explains why Britain has managed to outlaw hate speech for ‘race, religion, and sexual orientation’, but still lacks an ‘offence of stirring up hatred on the grounds of transgender identity’.

This hints at a broader theme: ‘Equalities groups’ like ‘Black Lives Matter’ are singled out for praise, having ‘drawn attention to inequality and injustice’. Young people are ‘the first generation to be able to really see clearly the level of wrongdoing’; in ‘understanding equality’ we find the greatest need for modernisation.

Mordaunt clearly sees herself as being on the right side of history here. In 2018, she told PinkNews that for the upcoming Gender Recognition Act consultation ‘trans women are women, that is the starting point’. In 2019, Mordaunt stood in the Commons chamber and said ‘from this dispatch box that transmen are men, transwomen are women’.

In 2022, these words were used to argue that her views were too socially liberal for the Conservative party. Rather than stand by them, Mordaunt gave a speech containing the phrase ‘I think it was Margaret Thatcher who said every Prime Minister needs a Willie. A woman like me doesn’t have one’.

There is something pretty shoddy in spending your political career advocating for what you believe to be the rights of trans people, and then turning around to make cheap gags the vast majority of your former opponents would consider a little crude. More than that, there is something that feels dishonest about it.

Part of the appeal of Penny is that she is a relatively blank slate. Her leadership video was filled with stock footage and soupy voiceover work, but very little in the way of ‘policies’ or ‘vision’. In turn, this lack of substance suggests that her appeal to voters may not survive contact with reality. As one pollster told me, ‘Rishi Sunak’s experience is illustrative: the public can turn, and turn quickly. We’d expect nothing less from the members of the Conservative party’. If Mordaunt’s book is anything to go by, that could happen sooner than you think.
 
God, I honestly do not give a fuck about the tory leadership race anymore. They're all going to have a globalist hand, buried so deep up their arse that their ring is wrapped around at the shoulder.
 
All I want is Liz Truss to be leader so we can have someone even more retarded than boris
 
Maybe it’s me being too optimistic, but the impression I get as an Amerimutt is that the citizens of the UK know all their political leaders suck (there aren’t a ton of “true believers”). Here in the states, we’re starting to feel that way, but there are still unapologetic true believers in all levels of society. Is this the case?
 
Maybe it’s me being too optimistic, but the impression I get as an Amerimutt is that the citizens of the UK know all their political leaders suck (there aren’t a ton of “true believers”). Here in the states, we’re starting to feel that way, but there are still unapologetic true believers in all levels of society. Is this the case?
Yes. I'm doing a masters at a fairly liberal UK university. Even the people in the labour society, and the conservative society don't like any of the leadership. our government is composed of people no one likes, doing things no one wants, on behalf of people that don't live here. British government delenda est.
 
Maybe it’s me being too optimistic, but the impression I get as an Amerimutt is that the citizens of the UK know all their political leaders suck (there aren’t a ton of “true believers”). Here in the states, we’re starting to feel that way, but there are still unapologetic true believers in all levels of society. Is this the case?
We have die hard s over here as well. People who would only vote one way no matter how terrible their chosen party was. Boris despite everything that’s happened like Trump will still have his fanatics, same with the previous labour leader Jeremy Corbyn. Also despite doing fuck all but complain, the SNP somehow have most seats in Scotland and have done for a number of years now.
 
@Johnny Treason Well that was an interesting and horrible read. I thought Liz Truss was the worst of the candidates on the list (well, Jeremy Hunt also but he wasn't a serious contender). I'd probably still give it to Liz Truss as she is most likely to plunge us into WWIII. Penny Dreadful seems to be a strong contender though.

I honestly like Kemi Bradenoch best. Saw a good speech she gave in Parliament which TL;DR: "fuck off with all this 'oh you're Black so you think this' shit". I'm annoyed with that other candidate that dropped out throwing her support behind Truss (iirc) rather than Kemi. It could make a difference.
 
I'm less worried about Liz Truss getting the post after seeing her in the debate. She didn't really have much other than to make weak little jabs at Rishi. Didn't give me any feel that she was much of a leader. That said, I couldn't see all of it. If anyone knows where the full thing can be viewed, please let me know. Still routing for Kemi, though. She's made the right call staying in, imo, as it certainly raises her profile. Even if others have been bought off with promises of a cabinet post.

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Huh. Scared of what? Each other? Penny Dreadful? What?
 
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Huh. Scared of what? Each other? Penny Dreadful? What?
These debates aren't showing them in the best light and they know it.

A lot of the papers this morning were saying they were shit, Penny too and that they thank Tom for his service but shut up about it now. Kemi is the future even if she won't get it because the Tories are fucknuts.
 
Soldier Boy's out. No real surprise there

Yup as predicted.

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Unfortunately it's probably Kemi and our only hope of a decent leader next.

The votes for all the 3 rounds

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Penny lost 1, Rishi gained 14, Truss gained 7 and Kemi gained 9.
 
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Penny has lost one of her backers due to him having the whip removed.

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Perpetual "but what about muh wamen" victim Jess of course has to drag it back to her topic of choice.

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Looks like Sunak is the best bet for at least muddling through. At least he can serve to melt the minds of self righteous Labour voters when asked to justify how they have a less diverse leadership than the supposed uberracist Tories.

He's basically guaranteed through. 120 is the magic number as its just over 1/3 of the avaliable votes meaning he's guaranteed to come 1st or 2nd and he's essentially on that.

Truss needs to get over to Kemi and offer her a plum job in exchange for an endorsement.
 
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