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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Flavvah said:
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At least three people have been killed by BLM since this started

There is an injunction where the authorities are claiming this did not take place

This is not a chokehold, you can clearly see the pool of blood from 18 seconds onwards.
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That's one of the videos I saw earlier today. It didn't mention anything about an injunction though.
 
I have Great terrible news, Swing Low Sweet Chariot is under review by the RFU.

Maggie Alphonsi admits Swing Low, Sweet Chariot does not 'sit easy' as RFU review England rugby song
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Former England player Maggie Alphonsi does not think Swing Low, Sweet Chariot should be banned but admits the song does not "sit easy" with her - as the RFU conducts a review into its usage.

The Rugby Football Union is looking at the "historical context" of the song - a favourite among England supporters that is routinely heard at Twickenham, with its lyrics written on the stadium's walls.

Its full history goes dates back to author Wallace Willis - a freed slave from 19th-century Oklahoma, USA - and it was popularised again among folk musicians during the civil rights movement of the 1960s.


Alphonsi told Sky Sports News that, while she no longer sings it, she does not feel it should be banned until people learn its historical context and make a decision themselves.

"I remember singing it a lot when I was young, throughout my England career," she said. "It wasn't until someone told me about the song and its connections that I stopped singing it.

"It's not my place to tell people to stop singing it, because you have to educate people and let them make that decision.

"The song does not sit easy with me when I hear it, because I now know the connections with it. But I also know that people singing it today are not singing it to offend.

"It's just because a lot of people don't know the history behind it, so it will be interesting to know when people start to learn and if they change their actions.


"I support the RFU for going away and actually conducting a review around it. I think the discussions will lead on to whether or not it should be banned.

"I personally don't think it should be banned. We should educate people and empower them, to understand where it came from."

Alphonsi played 74 times for England at flanker until her retirement in 2014, and she admitted "growing up, I didn't know anything about it. We all sung it and everyone sung it. It is one of the things that you did".

She said: "You know, when you're with your team-mates and when you go out socialising. And then as I became an England player throughout my career, I sang it as well when I went to go watch games.

"It wasn't until I got to a certain age where someone told me about the history behind it. I felt a bit disappointed. I wish someone had told me sooner so I could've made that decision [to sing it or not].


"But when they told me, I was quite relieved that they told me because it allowed me to think, OK, what was my next step? What do I want to do? And maybe that's probably a role that I should have played to educate more people around me."

Asked what she thought England fans would make of the song's review, she added: "I think there is probably going to be a mixed response.

"You know, there's been so much happening recently with the protests, with the death of George Floyd statues coming down.

"And you can see there's going to be people who will be upset with the fact that it's a song that people feel they've sung forever and they haven't sung it because they are being racist.

"You know, they've just sung it because it's a song that's almost symbolic of rugby. So I think there's going to be mixed reactions."

A spokesperson from the RFU said on Thursday: "We need to do more to achieve diversity and we are determined to accelerate change and grow awareness.

Odds are given how people are reacting they aren't going to be stupid enough to ban it. Guilt people into not doing it possibly but I doubt anyone listens to the RFU anyway.
 
New Fag said:
I have Great terrible news, Swing Low Sweet Chariot is under review by the RFU.

Maggie Alphonsi admits Swing Low, Sweet Chariot does not 'sit easy' as RFU review England rugby song

Former England player Maggie Alphonsi does not think Swing Low, Sweet Chariot should be banned but admits the song does not "sit easy" with her - as the RFU conducts a review into its usage.

The Rugby Football Union is looking at the "historical context" of the song - a favourite among England supporters that is routinely heard at Twickenham, with its lyrics written on the stadium's walls.

Its full history goes dates back to author Wallace Willis - a freed slave from 19th-century Oklahoma, USA - and it was popularised again among folk musicians during the civil rights movement of the 1960s.


Alphonsi told Sky Sports News that, while she no longer sings it, she does not feel it should be banned until people learn its historical context and make a decision themselves.

"I remember singing it a lot when I was young, throughout my England career," she said. "It wasn't until someone told me about the song and its connections that I stopped singing it.

"It's not my place to tell people to stop singing it, because you have to educate people and let them make that decision.

"The song does not sit easy with me when I hear it, because I now know the connections with it. But I also know that people singing it today are not singing it to offend.

"It's just because a lot of people don't know the history behind it, so it will be interesting to know when people start to learn and if they change their actions.


"I support the RFU for going away and actually conducting a review around it. I think the discussions will lead on to whether or not it should be banned.

"I personally don't think it should be banned. We should educate people and empower them, to understand where it came from."

Alphonsi played 74 times for England at flanker until her retirement in 2014, and she admitted "growing up, I didn't know anything about it. We all sung it and everyone sung it. It is one of the things that you did".

She said: "You know, when you're with your team-mates and when you go out socialising. And then as I became an England player throughout my career, I sang it as well when I went to go watch games.

"It wasn't until I got to a certain age where someone told me about the history behind it. I felt a bit disappointed. I wish someone had told me sooner so I could've made that decision [to sing it or not].


"But when they told me, I was quite relieved that they told me because it allowed me to think, OK, what was my next step? What do I want to do? And maybe that's probably a role that I should have played to educate more people around me."

Asked what she thought England fans would make of the song's review, she added: "I think there is probably going to be a mixed response.

"You know, there's been so much happening recently with the protests, with the death of George Floyd statues coming down.

"And you can see there's going to be people who will be upset with the fact that it's a song that people feel they've sung forever and they haven't sung it because they are being racist.

"You know, they've just sung it because it's a song that's almost symbolic of rugby. So I think there's going to be mixed reactions."

A spokesperson from the RFU said on Thursday: "We need to do more to achieve diversity and we are determined to accelerate change and grow awareness.

Odds are given how people are reacting they aren't going to be stupid enough to ban it. Guilt people into not doing it possibly but I doubt anyone listens to the RFU anyway.
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I would have thought the fact it's from a slavery-era spiritual would have been a positive. I honestly can't see how it or its import are being disrespected by England rugger buggers using it.
 
Trig.Point said:
Katie Hopkins just got (permanently) banned from twitter. BLM claims another victim.

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I can't help but feel that for a professional troll like her, this is a point of pride. Now she will parlay that into guest spots on every rightist Youtube channel extant going on about how she was too spicy for twatter.
 
New Fag said:
I have Great terrible news, Swing Low Sweet Chariot is under review by the RFU.

Maggie Alphonsi admits Swing Low, Sweet Chariot does not 'sit easy' as RFU review England rugby song

Former England player Maggie Alphonsi does not think Swing Low, Sweet Chariot should be banned but admits the song does not "sit easy" with her - as the RFU conducts a review into its usage.

The Rugby Football Union is looking at the "historical context" of the song - a favourite among England supporters that is routinely heard at Twickenham, with its lyrics written on the stadium's walls.

Its full history goes dates back to author Wallace Willis - a freed slave from 19th-century Oklahoma, USA - and it was popularised again among folk musicians during the civil rights movement of the 1960s.


Alphonsi told Sky Sports News that, while she no longer sings it, she does not feel it should be banned until people learn its historical context and make a decision themselves.

"I remember singing it a lot when I was young, throughout my England career," she said. "It wasn't until someone told me about the song and its connections that I stopped singing it.

"It's not my place to tell people to stop singing it, because you have to educate people and let them make that decision.

"The song does not sit easy with me when I hear it, because I now know the connections with it. But I also know that people singing it today are not singing it to offend.

"It's just because a lot of people don't know the history behind it, so it will be interesting to know when people start to learn and if they change their actions.


"I support the RFU for going away and actually conducting a review around it. I think the discussions will lead on to whether or not it should be banned.

"I personally don't think it should be banned. We should educate people and empower them, to understand where it came from."

Alphonsi played 74 times for England at flanker until her retirement in 2014, and she admitted "growing up, I didn't know anything about it. We all sung it and everyone sung it. It is one of the things that you did".

She said: "You know, when you're with your team-mates and when you go out socialising. And then as I became an England player throughout my career, I sang it as well when I went to go watch games.

"It wasn't until I got to a certain age where someone told me about the history behind it. I felt a bit disappointed. I wish someone had told me sooner so I could've made that decision [to sing it or not].


"But when they told me, I was quite relieved that they told me because it allowed me to think, OK, what was my next step? What do I want to do? And maybe that's probably a role that I should have played to educate more people around me."

Asked what she thought England fans would make of the song's review, she added: "I think there is probably going to be a mixed response.

"You know, there's been so much happening recently with the protests, with the death of George Floyd statues coming down.

"And you can see there's going to be people who will be upset with the fact that it's a song that people feel they've sung forever and they haven't sung it because they are being racist.

"You know, they've just sung it because it's a song that's almost symbolic of rugby. So I think there's going to be mixed reactions."

A spokesperson from the RFU said on Thursday: "We need to do more to achieve diversity and we are determined to accelerate change and grow awareness.

Odds are given how people are reacting they aren't going to be stupid enough to ban it. Guilt people into not doing it possibly but I doubt anyone listens to the RFU anyway.
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I remember the WRU tried to ban Delilah a couple of years ago because it allegedly promoted domestic violence. Of course, it didn’t change anything.
 
New Fag said:
Maggie Alphonsi admits Swing Low, Sweet Chariot does not 'sit easy' as RFU review England rugby song
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It definitely needs to be replaced with superior music by white people.
 
New Fag said:
I have Great terrible news, Swing Low Sweet Chariot is under review by the RFU.
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I had to read this and then check the actual article because I was sure something had been cropped out but no--it's racist to sing it just because a black person wrote it? I don't even see his descendants with their hands out so this really is baffling to me. I even had a quick look at the wiki page in case there really was some murky exploitative backstory and lol, this is always a sign you're on the good path
In 1939, Nazi Germany's Reich Music Examination Office added the song to a listing of "undesired and harmful" musical works.
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russian roulade said:
I had to read this and then check the actual article because I was sure something had been cropped out but no--it's racist to sing it just because a black person wrote it? I don't even see his descendants with their hands out so this really is baffling to me. I even had a quick look at the wiki page in case there really was some murky exploitative backstory and lol, this is always a sign you're on the good path
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They should sing Amazing Grace instead.
 
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