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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Heinrich Maneuver said:
She said rejected asylum seekers are able to make further submissions, often based on new information, even after their appeals have been rejected by an upper tribunal. They could change the basis of their asylum claim from risk of persecution due to their political beliefs to their sexuality or Christian faith, she claimed.
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My extended family's church is one of those "welcoming" places that likes to look after immigrants. One of the American imported denominations, likes to play at being "democratic" and tends to be dominated by socialist types. I've watched them continually take in asylum seekers who have claimed to be christian, help them get set up in homes and find work, only for them to suddenly and mysteriously lose interest in attending church once they've got themselves ILR. The membership keep falling for the same cheap, emotional manipulation migrants use against the courts. "Oh I'm a poor little persecuted christian who barely speaks english! I don't know anything from the bible but I promise I am!" It's one of the reasons I turned away from any sort of organised faith, because it nearly always ends up demanding suicidal empathy for the "downtrodden" scam artists.
 
@Otterly they closed our urgent care. Now it’s an inconvenient hike to get to one which is a shame as it was great being able to hobble down and make sure stuff wasn’t broken. I don’t even know if the two that are closest (they are not close) are still operational and if you can walk-in.

Kinda sucks up Norf as there’s poor provision for such a large area and they been shipping shitskins up here which is helping making things worse.
 
teriyakiburns said:
This already happens.
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Yes, but there's no reason to make it legal.

Made In Wales said:
Doing so will land you in a US Prison for 15 years - five for threatening the POTUS and ten (surprisingly enough) for threatening a DOJ.
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I've got a friend (former spook) with whom I regularly swap messages along the lines of "Jihad jihad bomb the president! Hi NSA guy, your mother dresses you funny" on the grounds that they're not supposed to be listening but we know damn well they are.

Long term goal is to get on an ignore list.
 
Texanfries said:
Is it true that Farage wants to lower the minimum wage for workers under 21? Also saw this on my feed and thought it was pretty funny
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It is real. (THE FLAG THING)

A village in Kent has said it has been told it must remove all flags from lampposts - including St George’s flags - if it wants to put up its Christmas lights.

Harrietsham Parish Council (HPC) said it had been given the green light for seasonal decorations to be erected along the A20, on the condition flags were removed due to a “safety risk”.

Reform-led Kent County Council (KCC), who issued the permit, said the condition had been made “to ensure the lights go up safely” and insisted HPC will not face significant extra costs. But the parish council said it could not be sure the festive decor would be able to go up, citing “financial implications” of the condition.


In a post on its website, HPC wrote: “Kent County Council has now issued the permit for the Parish Council’s Christmas lights to be installed along the A20 in the coming weeks. However, the approval comes with a condition that any flags currently on the streetlight columns must be removed before the lights can go up, as they pose a safety risk.


Many people mounted St George’s flags over the summer amid protests over the use of asylum hotels (PA) (PA Archive)
“This condition from Kent County Council may result in the installation of the Christmas lights being unable to proceed as planned for 2025. Despite this, the Parish Council will still be liable for the hire cost, as the arrangements were in place before the permit was issued.”

It added it was “important” to make resident aware of the “financial implications” placed upon it by the permit, adding it would be “disappointing” if the decorations could not be installed.


It is understood the majority of flags currently hung along the A20 road in the village are St George’s flags.

Residents said they hoped those who had originally put the St George’s flags up would remove them to allow the village to enjoy its Christmas lights. Speaking to the BBC, Ray Bastone said: "I don't know why the people who put the flags up don't take them down for Christmas so the lights can go up. They can put them up afterwards if they want.

"It's a shame we'll have no lights up."

In a statement, Peter Osborne, KCC's cabinet member for highways and transport, said: "The claim that Harrietsham Parish Council will face significant extra costs is simply wrong. The contractor they have already hired to install the Christmas lights can remove any obstructing flags as part of the same job - no additional significant expense should be expected.

"We fully support communities coming together to celebrate Christmas with festive lights - it’s a valued tradition that brings people together. But safety must come first. Flags on streetlight columns pose a risk during installation, so they must be removed to ensure the lights go up safely and can be enjoyed by everyone."

Harrietsham Parish Council has been contacted by The Independent for comment.
Don't really get why they can't just have the contractors take down each flag when necessary rather than having to remove them all.

EDIT: As for the minimum wage thing, he suggested the idea that the minimum wage is too high for young people during a conference but never said anything explicit about lowering it.

Nigel Farage has suggested that the minimum wage may be “too high” for younger workers, as he laid out Reform’s vision for the UK economy.

The Reform leader, speaking in the City of London on Monday morning, also revealed he was abandoning plans for tax cuts that were a central part of the party’s previous manifesto – and refused to commit to the triple lock on pensions.

Asked whether he thought the minimum wage was too high, Mr Farage said: “There’s an argument the minimum wage is too high for younger workers, particularly given that we’ve lowered the level at which NIC [national insurance contributions] is paid to £5,000 a year.


“So do one or the other, do one or the other – either lift the cap at which NI is due, or lower the minimum wage for young workers.”

Nigel Farage was introduced by Reform UK’s head of policy, Zia Yusuf



The minimum wage is currently £12.21 an hour for workers aged 21 and over, and £10 for those between 18 and 20.

For people aged under 18 or who are on an apprentice rate, the minimum is £7.55.

Mr Farage was also asked what his push to cut spending would mean for the triple lock on pensions and income tax thresholds.

He responded: “How can anybody project on pensions, or thresholds, or any of those things between now and then. What we will do, and what we can do, is use whatever muscle we’ve got to fight and urge this government to change direction, to ease the burden on small businesses being just one example.”

Under the triple lock guarantee, the state pension increases every April in line with whichever is the highest of total earnings growth in the year from May to July of the previous year, consumer prices index (CPI) inflation in September of the previous year, or 2.5 per cent.

The speech came ahead of Rachel Reeves’ Budget at the end of this month, in which she is expected to bring in tax rises to try and balance the country’s books. Mr Farage predicted a general election by 2027, caused by “economic collapse”.

He told the audience he predicted that within two Budgets’ time the chancellor would be “forced” by “markets” into policies that mean the “left of the Labour Party won’t buy it”.

“It’s why I stand by my prediction that there will be a general election caused by economic collapse that will happen in 2027”.

Mr Farage also said that his party “want to cut taxes” but they are “not realistic at this current moment in time”.

Farage predicted there would be a general election in two years


Reform’s manifesto in the lead-up to last year’s general election committed the party to tax cuts worth around a third of the NHS budget, including raising the personal allowance to £20,000, introducing a £100,000 tax-free allowance for companies and exempting some high street firms from business rates.

At the time, the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) said the plans, along with £50bn of spending commitments and £150bn of cuts, were “problematic” and cost far more than Reform claimed.

Speaking at the event on Monday, Mr Farage said: “We want to cut taxes, of course we do. But we understand substantial tax cuts, given the dire state of debt and our finances, are not realistic at this current moment in time.”

However he said there “are still relatively modest things we would do”, pointing to removing inheritance tax from family farms.

Conservative shadow chancellor Sir Mel Stride said Reform could not be taken seriously on the economy “when their promises disintegrate after five minutes, and they remain committed to extra welfare spending and a huge expansion of the state”.

He said: “They are a one-man band and have resorted to junking promises they made only recently in a desperate attempt to appear economically credible.

“In local government they have failed to find savings and are instead planning tax hikes on hard-working families.”
 
Duane Dibbley said:
Or, if you're outdoors or in the shed, smash as many cobwebs in there as you can.
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For the love of Christ do not do this!

It is not a very good way to treat bleeding, and those webs are full of bacteria, which you would be rubbing into open wounds!

Plaster, or bandages if needed, superglu is also great as well. Then get to a hospital safely if you think its needed.
 
StimulatedOrb said:
It is not a very good way to treat bleeding, and those webs are full of bacteria, which you would be rubbing into open wounds!
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It didnt hurt spiderman. If I'm in the wild and I cut myself and there's no moss nearby, spiderwebs goin in ma veins.

A-Logato said:
Is releasing foreign nonces a part of his master plan? Will he release Axel next?
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"lets get Britain's future back"

Ironic considering he can't get the fucking prisoners back.
 
Regards the flying of the flags, that's a national law issue and not a local council issue.

Kent Council think it's retarded, but sadly the national Health & Safety Act and Law (1974) means that even if the council wanted to it couldn't.

Reform UK can only change that by being the Government or majority party in a coalition.

As for the minimum wage thing, any reduction would be in line with a drop in the tax threshold.

If David gets paid £10 per hour and isn't taxed, but Angela earns £25 per hour and pays tax at 10% then who gets to keep more of their money? David, because his income isn't taxed.

The tax thresholds are wrong, and Nigel has wanted to introduce flat rates of tax so that people get taxed once and once only - basically, this nukes the eternally unpopular inheritance tax in one go.

The TLDR is the tax system needs to be fairer and it needs to work in favour of all and not just some.
 
I hear the higher tax rate is going up by 2p. In England that will mean 47% income tax and in Scotland I assume even higher.
Worth noting that that is approaching scandi levels of taxation, with third world levels of what you get for it. That is not sustainable. It’s not fair.
 
Heinrich Maneuver said:
do you have to submit your mileometre reading every tax year??
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Do electric cars have MOT's? I honestly don't know. If they do, the mileage is on the MOT test which is submitted to DVLA. Maybe that comes off of your tax bracket the following year? Or the hoik the price of charging stations up?

Just a quick blogpost, the Mcdonalds near me has had half of it's car park taken by a company I have never heard of (energy2go or something) and it's a forecourt size and style construction with 4 charging stations there. Even though maccies and the supermarket next door have their own charging stations. Very weird.
 
As a self declared environmentalist/wannabe Druid, something I always enjoy is breaking hippy souls with fun facts about electric cars, how the lithium is mined by child slaves in the Congo and how the power for it is generated by burning coal and all that. They'll never actually admit they were wrong but you can see the smug sense of superiority drain from their eyes to be replaced by jaded realisation, better than heroin IMO.
 
Otterly said:
I hear the higher tax rate is going up by 2p. In England that will mean 47% income tax and in Scotland I assume even higher.
Worth noting that that is approaching scandi levels of taxation, with third world levels of what you get for it. That is not sustainable. It’s not fair.
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Higher rate or additional rate? If higher rate that means everything over 50k goes to 42% from 40%. I'm only in that tax band because I'm a Hard Working Person who does shit loads of overtime, Reeves you dull-witted bint.

Additional rate would be 47% on everything over 125k which is a dizzy height I can only aspire to.
 
Mound Dweller said:
As a self declared environmentalist/wannabe Druid, something I always enjoy is breaking hippy souls with fun facts about electric cars, how the lithium is mined by child slaves in the Congo and how the power for it is generated by burning coal and all that. They'll never actually admit they were wrong but you can see the smug sense of superiority drain from their eyes to be replaced by jaded realisation, better than heroin IMO.
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A lot of the 'good and kind' people are now waking up and realising that they've been had.

'but I was a good person, I was kind and caring like you asked, why do you treat me this way?'

'HAHAHA! SUFFER WORTHLESS PEONS!'

The only good thing is that it's killing Labour's vote base at the grass roots.

Hopefully, we're at the start of the upward curve and people mass rejecting and ridiculing Labour and Starmer - when even Jimmy Wales is against the censorship programme there is finally some hope.

@Duane Dibbley The same is true of a retail park near me - took out the disabled spaces (illegally) to put charging points in. It was only when the council got a 'stern letter' from the disability rights people that they begrudgingly marked out new parking spaces.

I have never seen one of these points used, and we all laugh at how silly and senseless it is.

Petrol and Diesel are still going to be used after 2030, Hydrogen is the next big thing and EV's will eventually be considered as the Betamax of cars. I'm not against 'Green Energy' but it appears that those in charge of creating a greener Britain think that it's better to desecrate the horrible and green countryside with turbines and solar farms... some of which are now catching fire.

It's like asking Chris Chan to teach a class on Quantum Mechanics without raping the desks.
 
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Wanker wandering around the street of my child's school yesterday with a machete, smashing car windows, in the middle of the morning school run.

Lots of pupils were walking down the street to the school, The teachers were hurrying them to get inside. Not a single communication from the school to us parents, the first people knew about it was from the local Facebook nosy fckrs group, so nobody knew if it was true or not. I found out about it from my daughter after she came home from school.

A bloke was arrested, apparently.
No idea on a description.
 
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