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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[A-Logato]

Starmer says that he'll never surrender the Union flag to the Far Right:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vz91x5ynzo

https://archive.ph/AncQO

The words stable, door, horse and bolted come to mind...

Last time they flew a union Jack at a Labour party conference, the average Labour member recoiled in horror like a Vampire having a cross pointed at it.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

was this shared here? Sikh woman raped in Oldbury (Birmingham) in a 'racially motivated attack', hundreds gather to show support and march in solidarity. Perpetrator seems to be white, she claims he said 'you don't belong here'. No woman deserves to be targeted due to their race, but the fact no feminist groups or lefties stood up for the scores of white girls across the whole country is disgraceful. The one Labour party MP who said that white girls who were raped were 'white trash' absolutely disgusts me.
Also what the fuck is keir yapping about? We won't surrender the flag? Talks are now of 'when' not 'if' starmer resigns.

 

[Broadside]

Crazy how all these crises of competency are happening in the NHS atm; I thought they had lots of diversity hires to help impro... oh wait

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Sainsbury's in talks to sell Argos to Chinese business empire:

Having easy access to cheap chinese knock-off products, sold for a fraction of the retail price of their real counterparts would make a fortune.

A 'Primark for electronics' has the potential to deal a few black eyes to Amazon.

 

[Muad'Dick]

In days of yore, they were called "the mob", and the powers that be went to great lengths to keep them on-side.

You're correct of course, but I think the circumstances have changed drastically. Especially in the past twenty years. We're dealing with an almost completely deracinated mob now.

In days of yore the powers that be would kotow to the mob because they had two key things; agency and resourcefulness. Depending on how far back you want to go, even during the 60s people weren't yet wards of the state and could quite happily live outside of the system with only minor drawbacks. The further you go back, the more hands-on the methods of control used to be. Take the piss too much and those people growing your food could quite easily turn those ploughshares back into swords.

Through a combination of a reliance on technology for even the most basic tasks, ample bread and circuses, surveillance (and the social capital gained by shopping your neighbours), constant media gaslighting, the threat of losing your job, your banking or even imprisonment for voicing your concerns etc there is a climate of learned helplessness that communist states can only dream of. You can argue the toss over the degrees of effectiveness of any of this, but the end results speak for themselves. When child rape on an industrial scale isn't even enough to incite a series of mocha-coloured tree ornaments, what can you say?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Crazy how all these crises of competency are happening in the NHS atm; I thought they had lots of diversity hires to help impro... oh wait

Wonder how many they'll blame on Lucy Letby?

was this shared here? Sikh woman raped in Oldbury (Birmingham) in a 'racially motivated attack', hundreds gather to show support and march in solidarity.

I bet this is either going to turn out to be brown-on-brown crime - Oldbury is basically a border between sikh and hindu enclaves - or the "rape" is made up and she was just shouted at by some old baz.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

brown-on-brown crime - Oldbury is basically a border between sikh and hindu enclaves

During the 2011 riots (and other riots i believe) the Sikh population was out on the high streets defending shops (run by whites and sikhs) from brown rioters and looters, there's definitely a lot of brown on brown tension there. I would not be surprised but it's an odd feeling to see white leftists and police only speak out against one form of sexual violence and praise the 'multicultural community' meanwhile ignoring white girls getting drugged and raped systematically.
PL: I have noticed multiple posters for missing women in Birmingham at bus stops over the last few weeks. Different women, all different ages. Three girls also went missing in the town centre over the weekend but were found safe (X) no word on what happened yet.

 

[Nopenopenope]

You're correct of course, but I think the circumstances have changed drastically. Especially in the past twenty years. We're dealing with an almost completely deracinated mob now.

In days of yore the powers that be would kotow to the mob because they had two key things; agency and resourcefulness. Depending on how far back you want to go, even during the 60s people weren't yet wards of the state and could quite happily live outside of the system with only minor drawbacks. The further you go back, the more hands-on the methods of control used to be. Take the piss too much and those people growing your food could quite easily turn those ploughshares back into swords.

Through a combination of a reliance on technology for even the most basic tasks, ample bread and circuses, surveillance (and the social capital gained by shopping your neighbours), constant media gaslighting, the threat of losing your job, your banking or even imprisonment for voicing your concerns etc there is a climate of learned helplessness that communist states can only dream of. You can argue the toss over the degrees of effectiveness of any of this, but the end results speak for themselves. When child rape on an industrial scale isn't even enough to incite a series of mocha-coloured tree ornaments, what can you say?

I think the final nail in this particular coffin was COVID. The government dictated day to day life like never before, at the time and ever since then any slight inconvenience has been "the government needs to do something about this" when in a lot of cases the person has put themselves in the position by making poor decisions.

I'll use a small scale example, on a rural route I walk frequently there are big overgrown hedges, thorns and nettles etc growing into the path and spiking people. Heard a few people muttering "the council need to do something about this". Able bodied people I should add who will live locally. I went there on a Saturday for an hour with a big pair of shears and cut it all down myself. Nobody seems to have it in them to deal with problems themselves now, it should all be done by someone else, council, government etc. People have become helpless. Yes it's annoying that I pay more council tax than ever yet the services have decayed, but why bitch and moan about it and do nothing? If everyone did a small bit we would improve as a society drastically.

 

[Goodbye Horses]

I went there on a Saturday for an hour with a big pair of shears and cut it all down myself.

You need to be careful doing things like that. Some curtain-twitcher will inform on you and next thing you know it's all bullshit fines and court appearances as the council punish you for stepping out of line.

 

[Nopenopenope]

You need to be careful doing things like that. Some curtain-twitcher will inform on you and next thing you know it's all bullshit fines and court appearances as the council punish you for stepping out of line.

While I get your point and agree that I'd be a little more hesitant in a built-up area, that's the kind of attitude that keeps us in this situation. What will they say, some guy came over and did the job the council used to do 3 years ago and now I don't get stung by nettles daily?

I'm of the opinion people need to become more civic minded if we really want less government/council interference.

 

[Made In Wales]

Some bits of news:

And then there were five (again, again): East Wiltshire MP Danny Krueger defects from the Tories and joins Reform UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce802dmgnyro

https://archive.ph/0oRRR

Sentencing hearing under way for Constance Marten and Mark Gordon over death of their daughter:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd6357v5dzlt

https://archive.ph/rruz8

 

[teriyakiburns]

and ever since then any slight inconvenience has been "the government needs to do something about this" when in a lot of cases the person has put themselves in the position by making poor decisions.

See, this is where I think you're both going wrong. There's always been this sentiment. Right back to when I was a kid, there would be people decrying minor inconveniences with "there ought to be a law!" and similar sentiments, but if anyone stepped up to try and fix the problems they were complaining about, those same people would be on the phone to the local nick or the parish council. They'd be more likely to be ignored back then, but they existed, and they had an effect.

This is the mob. The mob never had "agency"; it was always driven by the lowest common set of needs and wants, and its number one want - the thing that has caused people to clap like retards for ARE NHS and line up for the shots, the thing that caused them to try and ignore all the possibility of child rape until it became too obvious and blatant, and the thing that has driven English society since the Norman imposition of the continental feudal system - is to be left alone. People will do a lot to be left alone.

 

[Made In Wales]

See, this is where I think you're both going wrong. There's always been this sentiment. Right back to when I was a kid, there would be people decrying minor inconveniences with "there ought to be a law!" and similar sentiments, but if anyone stepped up to try and fix the problems they were complaining about, those same people would be on the phone to the local nick or the parish council. They'd be more likely to be ignored back then, but they existed, and they had an effect.

This is the mob. The mob never had "agency"; it was always driven by the lowest common set of needs and wants, and its number one want - the thing that has caused people to clap like retards for ARE NHS and line up for the shots, the thing that caused them to try and ignore all the possibility of child rape until it became too obvious and blatant, and the thing that has driven English society since the Norman imposition of the continental feudal system - is to be left alone. People will do a lot to be left alone.

On the issue of unruly nettles and bushes, near me there was a similar problem with overgrown plants taking out half of a residential road.

The local council refused to do anything about it because 'birds might be nesting and they have rights'.

A local confirmed that no nests and no eggs were present but still 'no, no, not interested'.

Next thing, somebody had poured petrol on the eyesore and burnt it to the ground. All that remained was stumps and ash.

Then the Council got ratty and phoned the Police who could do nothing as 'nobody knew' who was responsible.

Now, if there's any issues in that area which demand the Council's attention, they refuse to send people in to fix them. 'Problem with potholes? Not interested, you didn't tell us who burnt the bushes down therefore we won't help, waah!'

 

[Kofi Drinka]

So, you're handing over your personal information, for what? Pissing rights about but but but muh ancestorrzz? 23 and Me were recently slapped with a significant fine for breaching data protection laws.

It no longer matters if you're done it or not. Enough people have that we all have cousins or siblings that have passed it over. They use the databases to run DNA tests and they will find 2 cousins to single you out.

I'm just unconvinced. There are plenty of Arabs where I live like everywhere else, not too many blacks. I still see majority white faces, typically when I'm out and about it is my fellow whites turning the place into a shit hole. Stealing, begging while smoking a fag, claiming benefits rather than working, raising their kids to be little scrotes, obese NHS sponges, I could go on but if you live in this country I think you know what I mean.

I've spoke about the scum class a lot and what they're like. I've never said all whites are good people but they're a different kind of scum to foreigners. We never had council estates pimping girls and torturing them the way we have muslims doing it.

I used to have a little faith in them, but the reaction to COVID was the final nail in the coffin for me.

If a mob can be convinced not to act they can be convinced to act.

was this shared here? Sikh woman raped in Oldbury (Birmingham) in a 'racially motivated attack', hundreds gather to show support and march in solidarity. Perpetrator seems to be white, she claims he said 'you don't belong here'. No woman deserves to be targeted due to their race, but the fact no feminist groups or lefties stood up for the scores of white girls across the whole country is disgraceful. The one Labour party MP who said that white girls who were raped were 'white trash' absolutely disgusts me.
Also what the fuck is keir yapping about? We won't surrender the flag? Talks are now of 'when' not 'if' starmer resigns.

I covered it and the Sikh reactions (they hate whites BTW). It sounds fake because it makes no sense for a racist to rape someone while telling them to GTFO during rush hour traffic. Read the thread before you ball wash brown smelly indians.

Crazy how all these crises of competency are happening in the NHS atm; I thought they had lots of diversity hires to help impro... oh wait
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Failures means "killed babies". Fucking weasel words.

I'll use a small scale example, on a rural route I walk frequently there are big overgrown hedges, thorns and nettles etc growing into the path and spiking people. Heard a few people muttering "the council need to do something about this". Able bodied people I should add who will live locally. I went there on a Saturday for an hour with a big pair of shears and cut it all down myself. Nobody seems to have it in them to deal with problems themselves now, it should all be done by someone else, council, government etc. People have become helpless. Yes it's annoying that I pay more council tax than ever yet the services have decayed, but why bitch and moan about it and do nothing? If everyone did a small bit we would improve as a society drastically.

Good on you. I do the same. If someone wants to bitch at me for trimming a head then let them. Going to fine me when a tree falls on the road and I have to get my chainsaw out to clear it next too? Council won't even come out and look at it for hours.

 

[Verdun_Salient]

What is the deal with councils in the UK, and do they have an equivalent in the US? They seem like an upscaled HOA

 

[Goodbye Horses]

While I get your point and agree that I'd be a little more hesitant in a built-up area, that's the kind of attitude that keeps us in this situation. What will they say, some guy came over and did the job the council used to do 3 years ago and now I don't get stung by nettles daily?

I'm of the opinion people need to become more civic minded if we really want less government/council interference.

I didn't say don't do it, I said be careful about it. Any attempt to work around the council, even something as seemingly harmless as trimming a hedge, washing down dirty road signs or levelling a wonky paving slab, will get you charged with criminal damage at the very least if they catch you. Make sure you don't do anything like that on a regular schedule, and don't give your name or any other information to anyone that approaches, no matter how friendly they are.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

What is the deal with councils in the UK, and do they have an equivalent in the US? They seem like an upscaled HOA

Councils are regional government. They're supposed to run public services, build infrastructure and deal with local's problems. In actuality they do fuck all and piss away money on social engineering events or giving their mates money for failing/never launching huge building developments. They can build you a new swimming pool that never opens but they can't fix the pot holes in the road sort of thing.

 

[Made In Wales]

The pressure's mounting on Starmer, with a little under a fortnight before the Conference:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce32qepq12qo

https://archive.ph/jUH0G

IMO we're now looking at a couple of scenarios:

1) Starmer quits before the Conference (end of the month) - unlikely but possible.

2) Starmer resigns during the Conference - not implausible but still unlikely.

3) Mass defections start amid serious questions about Starmer's leadership - possible IF the Starmer-Blair rift widens, which would lead to a VONC and Starmer being replaced.

4) Starmer jettisons those disloyal to him - don't bet against this, it's the 'Nuclear' option but he is arrogant enough to do it if he thinks he will be back-stabbed and the government won't be able to function due to bottle-necking or rebellions.

As stupid and asinine as this sounds, the government has to be able to function, pass bills and laws and be able to run on a daily basis without issues which would otherwise render it useless.

5) The Budget fails to pass - then we get the Warwick Davis appreciation thread OR...

6) Starmer gets frustrated with the party and decides an earlier than expected GE is the only way out of this mess - plus it's a distract from Mandleson, Rayner or whichever new scandal/s come along.

Get the popcorn ready...

 

[teriyakiburns]

What is the deal with councils in the UK, and do they have an equivalent in the US? They seem like an upscaled HOA

They're local government. Think of a city council, but with even less incentive to actually do anything useful.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

News is full of "Won't someone think of this POOR INNOCENT wog working at the take away" stories after yesterdays protests. Starmer and his media people are all attacking flying the flag and saying it's racist without openly stating their hatred for it.