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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Made In Wales said:
Agreed, much as I hate Labour I will never say that violence is the way - that makes people who resort to it as bad as the idiot who killed Charlie Kirk yesterday.

Yes, some people are beyond debating with and some probably deserve zero sympathy - but we cannot descend to their level. Having empathy is the one thing which prevents us from being like them.
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I completely agree. It also seems like, from what I've read, she's well regarded by her constituents, as well.

The scope for this to have gone wrong is severe and in glad nobody was injured.

Given her Jewish connections it would be very interesting to see if this was committed by a Muslim or a fan of The Friday Club.
 
Kier Starmer said:
Kent, I understand, stayed overnight once there, and it was dire. I know a few people who went to the West of England, and considering what they said about the admin there, I'm not even shocked.
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Be interested to know when you were there. Was in Kent some 10+ years ago before leaving the UK (right as Labour got in). Quite nice then, lots of local places that I now understand have closed (and were closing prior to Covid) with those allotments being snatched up by big chains.

My relative was looking to go down there and to Whitstable next week with her due to having fond memories of visiting me/enjoying the place and quickly changed her mind seeing prices and reviews being much worse. Not happening.

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Is there a more sore, serial loser than Thornberry?

After the 2024 Labour win, she spent about a week going around saying how she would've loved a job. Now she drops out of the Labour deputy leadership race with 13 nominations out of 80 and the BBC run the story with this photo which needs absolutely no "fuck my shit up, fam" edit.
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They bussed this bitch in during the election cycle when Canterbury Conservatives lost their seat. Short little goblin mutant who needed a box to stand on in the high street to support Rosie Duffield. Gotten so disgustingly fat in this image since I last saw her in person. Got heckled by people walking by as well iirc.
 
Slimy Time said:
Be interested to know when you were there. Was in Kent some 10+ years ago before leaving the UK (right as Labour got in). Quite nice then, lots of local places that I now understand have closed (and were closing prior to Covid) with those allotments being snatched up by big chains.

My relative was looking to go down there and to Whitstable next week with her due to having fond memories of visiting me/enjoying the place and quickly changed her mind seeing prices and reviews being much worse. Not happening.

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They bussed this bitch in during the election cycle when Canterbury Conservatives lost their seat. Short little goblin mutant who needed a box to stand on in the high street to support Rosie Duffield. Gotten so disgustingly fat in this image since I last saw her in person. Got heckled by people walking by as well iirc.
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Isn't she also known as Lady Nugee?

I call her 'Mrs. Pilsbury' - porky woman with yeast issues.

Speaking of wrong 'uns... Former Football Referee David Coote pleads not guilty to making indecent video of a child:


 
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Made In Wales said:
Isn't she also known as Lady Nugee?

I call her 'Mrs. Pilsbury' - porky woman with yeast issues.
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Yeah that's another name. I remember getting into the crowd around her and sticking on a Labour badge to hear what she said. Could not have made a worse impression on seeing and hearing this woman. They poured in a lot of resources to target the students and I know some were doing tactical voting to swing it to Labour. Slight amusement that they put all those resources only to boot her out for the trans comments. Didn't they also split it up in 2023 to Canterbury and then also Sandwich and Herne Bay (which swung back to Conservative)?

Haven't been there for 10+ years, but even back then there was homeless everywhere on the high street. Couldn't escape it.
 
A-Logato said:
Grew up around that and I'm happy to say it's all but died out for the most part
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Most my family are Norf FC Labour zombies but everyone else I speak to in my home town is full on Reform voters who share Tommy Robinson videos on Facebook.

My social circles are Green voters or people who say Labour but secret vote Tory because I’m a Lanyard wearing prick.
 
FedPostalService said:
Most my family are Norf FC Labour zombies but everyone else I speak to in my home town is full on Reform voters who share Tommy Robinson videos on Facebook.

My social circles are Green voters or people who say Labour but secret vote Tory because I’m a Lanyard wearing prick.
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Tommy looks like he could grill up some banger pork chops
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Smyrna said:
Guido reports that McSweeney is feeling the heat over Mandy's sacking - they are close allies and McSweeney pushed Mandy's nomination through despite the concerns and objections of others involved. So he is copping the blame.
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Starmer was told at the time, by both American and British that Mandy would be a fucking disastrous decision. The floppy fuck has far to much baggage.

HairyBadger said:
Starmer was told at the time, by both American and British that Mandy would be a fucking disastrous decision. The floppy fuck has far to much baggage.
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If I remember correctly, I think there was a public appeal to Trump not to appoint Mandy because he was such a slimy cunt.
 
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FedPostalService said:
Peter Mandelson likes to inset his erect penis into the anuses of men.

Not my idea of a good time but each to his own.
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I don't think where Mandy puts his dick is of any concern other than him or the boy he is raping, on an island.

The concern is politically. Is he public facing or in the shadows?

Do you want a creature like Mandelson upfront in a reasonably public facing role, or creaping around in the shadows.
 
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Peter Mandelson likes to inset his erect penis into the anuses of men.

Not my idea of a good time but each to his own.
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Starmer's just jealous that Peter's never tried him out 'for size'

'OOOOH MATRON!'

Anyway, Labour's in disarray this side of Offa's Dyke as well - two weeks until the Caerphilly Senedd By-Election and the leader of their Council has quit Labour and is now backing Plaid:



Busted flush indeed!
 
HairyBadger said:
If I remember correctly, I think there was a public appeal to Trump not to appoint Mandy because he was such a slimy cunt.
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Which went nowhere, because they're cut from the same cloth and moved in the same circles, which is why he was picked to be an ambassador to Trump in the first place.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
Any one want a punt on Labour doing another cabinet shuffle within 2 weeks? They're dropping like flies. Welshy might be right about the early GE, but it's not in 2 years it's now.
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The government have no incentive to call an election anytime in the immediate future because current polling suggests that they would almost certainly lose. The absolute earliest I could see any serious suggestion of a general election will be after the local election results in May, but a lot of that will depend upon how well the opposition ends up doing.

I suspect that a poor showing for the Conservatives next year will spell the end of Badenonch's tenure as leader, and while I don't foresee people flocking back to the Conservatives in droves, the sudden bump of interest that fresh leadership typically garners could definitely put a dent in Farage's ascendancy for a short while. The problem for Labour is that this potential advantage is largely cancelled out by the increasing challenge they're now facing from the left.
 
If anything serious enough happens to warrant another reshuffle before the end of the year, there wouldn't be another reshuffle - it will simply be the end of Starmer. If McSweeney is forced out over Mandy then the Starmer regime is left rudderless. He has orchestrated everything about Starmer's leadership of the party ever since Starmer agreed to run. Starmer cannot function unless there is someone who actually understands politics running the show for him. McSweeney was the first one in and is now the last one left.

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Nominations have closed for deputy Labour leader and the final ballot will be Phillipson vs. Powell. Ribeiro-Addy did not come close to achieving the 80 backers needed.
 
Hellbound Hellhound said:
The government have no incentive to call an election anytime in the immediate future because current polling suggests that they would almost certainly lose. The absolute earliest I could see any serious suggestion of a general election will be after the local election results in May, but a lot of that will depend upon how well the opposition ends up doing.

I suspect that a poor showing for the Conservatives next year will spell the end of Badenonch's tenure as leader, and while I don't foresee people flocking back to the Conservatives in droves, the sudden bump of interest that fresh leadership typically garners could definitely put a dent in Farage's ascendancy for a short while. The problem for Labour is that this potential advantage is largely cancelled out by the increasing challenge they're now facing from the left.
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The issue may well be that the Government might not, in the end, have a say - they might not have a choice.

Thanks @Kofi Drinka by the way.

As we have seen this week, a lot can change in both Parliament and in the real world - things are accelerating and we do not know what will be happening from one day to the next.

Labour are currently on 399 MP's (down from 411 in July 2024) and stand to lose more to the Corbyn Party (mainly Black and Asian MP's in London and Birmingham) whilst the ongoing Starmer v Blair spat is only going to widen the chasm.

What happens if/when Labour MP's depart and we get to below 326 MP's?

A UK Labour Government dropping below 326 MPs would indeed trigger a significant constitutional crisis, and a General Election would be highly probable if other parties refused to work with them or grant a 'confidence and supply' agreement.

The UK operates under a parliamentary system where the government requires the confidence of the House of Commons to govern effectively. The 326 MP threshold represents an absolute majority of the 650 seats in the House of Commons, which is typically seen as the number needed to pass legislation and survive confidence votes.

However, Labour's majority is 157 and it would require a steep drop-off of MP's or MP's voting against the Budget (most likely scenario - the 'ace in the pack') to trigger a GE.

If the Labour Government were to lose its majority, it would become a minority government. While a minority government can technically continue to govern, its ability to pass legislation, particularly its budget, would be severely hampered. The crucial element here is the concept of 'confidence and supply.' A confidence and supply agreement is a formal or informal arrangement where a smaller party or parties agree to support the government on votes of confidence and on budgetary matters, in exchange for certain policy concessions or other agreements.

Without such an agreement, the government would be vulnerable to a vote of no confidence. If a motion of no confidence were passed by a simple majority of MP's, the Government would be expected to resign. Following a successful vote of no confidence, the Monarch would typically invite another party leader who could command the confidence of the House to form a Government. If no alternative government could be formed, or if the current Government chose not to resign immediately, a General Election would almost certainly be called. This is because the fundamental principle of parliamentary democracy dictates that the executive must be accountable to and command the support of the legislature.

If there are signs by the end of next month that the Budget won't pass, and some in Labour will vote with the Tories, Lib Dems, Independents, SNP, Reform UK, Plaid, Greens and Northern Ireland parties to block the Budget from passing then this will be a VONC and Starmer would then have to visit Buckingham Palace the day after (as James Callaghan did after he famously lost a VONC in 1979 which then ushered in Margaret Thatcher as PM). The vote will have to be done by the first week of November in order for a December 11th GE (the last feasible date upon which a GE can be held this year as a December 18th GE would mean delaying the opening of Parliament until January and tradition states that the opening of Parliament is usually a week after the GE... nobody is going to want to go to Parliament on Christmas Day!

Calling for a GE on Wednesday 5th November (irony!) and having one on Thursday 11th December means five weeks of Purdah which is the minimum number of weeks needed (and is really only for the benefit of the Civil Service).

Most Purdah's are six weeks but five week ones are allowed and as it would be as an emergency measure most people wouldn't mind (we know which way we're going to vote anyway). Incidentally, the shortest time between calling a GE and having one was 21 days in February 1974, but that couldn't be done today.

I still feel confident that Nigel will be in as PM, and maybe Starmer might trigger an early GE to try and catch Reform UK off guard - remember if Starmer feels that he can not only yeet the Blairites but also outdo Farage and the others, he might feel tempted to do it just as to sort out the blockages in the Government and to assert his authority over the party - 'it's Starmer's way or the highway!'

I think I prefer the highway...
 
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