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Critics warn of ‘unintended consequences’ of internet laws, as niche forums shut down entirely, and some UK users are blocked from foreign-hosted sites.

British chat forums are shutting themselves down rather than face regulatory burdens recently applied to internet policing laws.

On March 17, the United Kingdom’s Online Safety Act, a law that regulates internet spaces, officially kicked into force.

The law means that online platforms must immediately start putting in place measures to protect people in the UK from criminal activity with far-reaching implications for the internet.

However, for some forums—from cyclists, hobbyists, and hamster owners, to divorced father support and more—the regulatory pressure is proving too much, and its myriad of rules are causing chat forums that have been operating for decades, in some cases, to call it a day.

Conservative Peer Lord Daniel Moylan told The Epoch Times by email that “common sense suggests the sites least likely to survive will be hobby sites, community sites, and the like.”

‘Small But Risky Services’​

The Act—which was celebrated as the world-first online safety law—was designed to ensure that tech companies take more responsibility for the safety of their users.

For example, social media platforms, including user-to-user service providers, have the duty to proactively police harmful illegal content such as revenge and extreme pornography, sex trafficking, harassment, coercive or controlling behavior, and cyberstalking.

But what the government calls “small but risky services” which are often forums, have to submit illegal harms risk assessments to the Online Safety Act’s regulator, Ofcom, by March 31.

Ofcom first published its illegal harm codes of practice and guidance in December 2024 and had given providers three months to carry out the assignment.

It was given powers under the law and warned that those who fail to do so may face enforcement action.

“We have strong enforcement powers at our disposal, including being able to issue fines of up to 10 percent of turnover or £18 million ($23 million)—whichever is greater—or to apply to a court to block a site in the UK in the most serious cases,” said Ofcom.

Some of the rules for owners of these sites—which are often operated by individuals —include keeping written records of their risk assessments, detailing levels of risk, and assessing the “nature and severity of potential harm to individuals.”

While terrorism and child sexual exploitation may be more straightforward to assess and mitigate, offenses such as coercive and controlling behavior and hate offenses are more challenging to manage with forums that have thousands of users.

‘No Way To Dodge It’​

LFGSS (London Fixed Gear and Single Speed), a popular cycling forum and resource for nearly two decades, shut down in December.

“We’re done ... we fall firmly into scope, and I have no way to dodge it,” the site said, adding that the law “makes the site owner liable for everything that is said by anyone on the site they operate.”

“The act is too broad, and it doesn’t matter that there’s never been an instance of any of the proclaimed things that this act protects adults, children, and vulnerable people from ... the very broad language and the fact that I’m based in the UK means we’re covered,” it said.

Dee Kitchen, the Microcosm forum software developer that was used to power 300 online communities including LFGSS, said he deleted them all on March 16, a day before the law kicked in.


More recently the Hamster Forum shut down.
On March 16, it wrote that while the forum has “always been perfectly safe, we were unable to meet the compliance.”

The resource forum dadswithkids for single dads, and fathers going through divorce or separation—and also teaches how to maintain relationships with their children, also shut down.

UK users are also being blocked from accessing sites hosted abroad.

The hosts of the lemmy.zip forum, hosted in Finland, said to ensure compliance with international regulations while avoiding any legal risks associated with the Act, it has made the difficult decision to block UK access.

“These measures pave the way for a UK-controlled version of the ‘Great Firewall,’ granting the government the ability to block or fine websites at will under broad, undefined, and constantly shifting terms of what is considered ‘harmful’ content,” it said.

‘Not Setting Out to Penalize’​

An Ofcom spokesman told The Epoch Times by email: “We’re not setting out to penalize small, low-risk services trying to comply in good faith, and will only take action where it is proportionate and appropriate.”

“We’re initially prioritizing the compliance of sites and apps that may present particular risks of harm from illegal content due to their size or nature—for example, because they have a large number of users in the UK, or because their users may risk encountering some of the most harmful forms of online content and conduct,” he said.

Critics of the law said that the ongoing changes to the way British people use the internet is the “law of unintended consequence.”

Professor Andrew Tettenborn, common-law and continental jurisdictions scholar and adviser to the Free Speech Union told The Epoch Times that smaller sites “might well shut down under the pressure. Or simply get hosted abroad.”

He also mulled that people will continue to turn to privacy tools such as Virtual Private Networks (VPNs).

“There’s not much Ofcom can do about an outfit abroad, especially as if anyone knows how to use VPNs. It’s the young who are meant to be protected. Indeed Ofcom has to be careful lest it drive young people to decidedly dodgy sites abroad, “ he said.

“Law of unintended consequences and all that,” he added.

Moylan had previously warned that the UK may be “in danger of ending up in a little enclosed island” like China is behind its internet firewall.

He told The Epoch Times by email that survey work in advance of legislation might have helped legislators incorporate those considerations into their thinking.
“But nobody was interested,” Moylan said.

He said that the government was committed to a regulatory structure in which “everything would be devolved to Ofcom.”

“I suppose they can go back to putting notices in church porches and sending out [photocopied] newsletters by post,” he said.

Digital Service Act​

The UK law goes even further than the Digital Service Act, an EU-wide regulation that requires social media platforms to remove and take other specified steps to deal with what is deemed “disinformation.”

This is because it only deals with policing what it called very large online platforms, platforms or search engines that have more than 45 million users per month in the EU.

Norman Lewis, visiting research fellow at the think tank MCC Brussels, former PwC director, and the director of technology research at Orange UK, told The Epoch Times that rules such as the UK’s could, in theory, be adopted into European legislation.

He suggested that with so many regulations “platforms that don’t generate millions, hundreds of millions of dollars or pounds in advertising are not going to be able to operate.”
 
There’s a business niche here for hosting these sites somewhere with actual free speech.
Also despite it being past march 17th, allow me to say that kier starmer is a foul disgrace and a waste of oxygen, a piece on boiled ham in suit, with no more humanity than the shrieking void from whence he came.
 
These are absolutely intended consequences and anyone with half a brain knows this.
Yeah it is. Cut down any place people have to talk to each other.
I hope people start talking about stuff in person then. I mean their fixed wheel bike autism and hamsters of course.
But it’s rather like the Troon menace. Women got prevented from talking about it online so they did what women do and started talking about it in person, and funnily enough they found like minds, and some of those women had a I think a little more of a direct line to Power than the trannies thought. And now we are TERF island.
I hope that happens with other things by which of course I mean hamsters rather than say things like pitchfork enthusiast meet-ups.
 
There’s a business niche here for hosting these sites somewhere with actual free speech.
It could work but the British government potentially shutting off access to such foreign-hosted sites could be an issue.
 
People are saying meanie things on the internet. The internet will be the new cable tv.
 
These are absolutely intended consequences and anyone with half a brain knows this.
One of the idiots who was pushing this shit stated that in an "ideal world" every government would come together and make it the internet "child-friendly" no violent, graphic, and/or sexual content or hate speech along with requiring every person on the internet to have a real world ID connected to them so that would be no anonymity. They actually fully intend to the gut the internet and this is their starting point.
 
Tor and vpns. They’ll have a hard time going after VPN as so many need it for remote work
Optimistic, I fear. It's relatively easy to detect a VPN connection if you're the State / an ISP and the best VPN providers can do to counter that is get into an arms race where their endpoints are produced / change faster than the ISP or State can track it. Which is difficult to do because these VPN companies are providing a public service and must be able to communicate the entry point to the client.

Now having been able to reasonably reliably detect if someone is using a VPN, they then check it against their Whitelist of approved business VPNs. You're a civil service worker having a duvet day and working from home? That VPN is allowed to form. Mulvad or such? Sorry - not allowed. Not unless they agree to a backdoor.

The fruit at the top of the tree? Sure - going to be hard to stop that. But the low-hanging fruit which 90% of VPN users are? Yeah, they can clear that out. And clear that out, the financial model for VPN companies gets the rug pulled from under them.

This needs to be fought at the level of law, not shrugged and said "well, they wont be able to enforce it".

And to any about to post some way that they personally could still manage a VPN, well done, you're very smart - doesn't change what I've said about the general effect on online discussion and sharing.
 
There’s a business niche here for hosting these sites somewhere with actual free speech.
Countdown to articles kvetching about how, oh how, did all the kids start VPNing into Russian websites after 80% of the internet in the UK was shuttered, and the other 20% is heavily-censored Globohomo...
 
The law is on their side and in their pocket.
This is how they will do it isn’t it? Any small sites forced off, only mega corpo sites allowed.
Yes. This isn't only about direct social control, it also is about barriers to entry. Large companies can shoulder the costs of this regulation, smaller ones and new entrants cannot. It's the same with AI where having benefitted themselves, OpenAI suddenly volunteers to help our governments develop regulations and laws to "protect against missue", i.e. to pull the ladder up after them.

By doing this, Big Tech companies can capture the market and government can reduce the number of entities it needs to lean on. And now we get a lot less of the sort of diversity that matters: diversity of thought.

The thing about VPN technology is that there are all sorts of ways to do it but communication is about having multiple parties. It does me little good to rent some small cloud instance to use as a proxy and install some VPN software on it when the number of people who want to use that same forum has just dropped by 97% and I'm just on there with a handful of people.
 
I am just going to say it: Cut off Europe from the internet, and while you're at it cut them off from the rest of the world, Escape from NY style, until they sort their retardation out or they get devoured alive by their pet muslims and become a caliphate. Either way, things will be less gay than with this EU mandated keyfabe where we have to pretend to take them and their rulings seriously.
 
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