I wanted to bring this up, but thought "A Western" would muddy the waters, even though it's as much a despised genre (for its time) as horror and SF is now.
comedy as well
John's not wrong though.
Oliver! over 2001: a space odyssey
Apartment over Psycho, which was not nominated. [I'm a Billy Wilder fan, but ... no]
Sting over Exorcist
Ordinary People over Empire Strikes Back
It's not like all of those winners are worthless, but ... when was the last time you saw someone reference Ordinary People or Apartment? Oliver! has the "Please sir, I'd like some more" scene, but one of those two films is being discussed a good fifty years on. And the gap between Kramer vs Kramer and Shining is even bigger.
And I wouldn't even call Parasite a horror film. The funny scenes outweigh the horror moments.
It's a pretty old saw to bitch about horror/sff/comedy almost anything besides drama not winning or at least being a heavy underdog
but with parasite having more comedy than horror elements - comedy and horror go hand in hand (that's the whole "black" thing) they are kind of 2 side of the same card
"It's not like all of those winners are worthless"
yeah, that can just the inverse. You named some really strong films that I really don't fault
the sting is ultra classic
the injury scene in KvsK is super powerful
ordinary people is powerful
as SF/F (more SF for me than F) fans, we can do the same thing
(I remember as a kid feeling totally ripped off Jaws didn't win)
- don't wanna troon out and go "cause I a'troonin I not respected"
The oscars were originally designed as a marketing vehicle to support the seasonal slump.
so they really aren't THAT legit anyway, but it got already brought up
John's just another sheeple in that because all he was focusing on was BEST PICTURE
just like "SF never respected" the technicals are given second tier - and that's ben a point of contention for a long time.
and it's really a shame
it's like how the olympics shows ice dancing, any sport an american is doing well in, and figureskating followed by more ice dancing
(heh, come to thing of it. I think they may have even actually gotten rid of the technicals in figure skating - they used to televise it for like 5 mins over the fortnite)
A lot of films, like 2001 - well a lot of Kubric- have its merits in the cinematography, so they are going to be more heavilly technical
the idea of "best film" itself is kind of bullshit. it's just not focused enough so it just becomes TOO interpretive.
