In the autism SJW circles Order of Ecclesia doesnt count because Shanoa was the not the STRONK AND DEPENDABLE Woman, she was a detached puppet blindly following orders and only get her character development almost at the end of the game, of course John doesnt know about Carrie Fernandez or Sonia Belmont, he should know about Sifa from the Netflix series, i see that his super misandry has not changed
And John a little advise the guy is talking about Nintendo DS Castlevanias, Circle of the moon and Harmony of dissonance are for the Game Boy Advance the ones from DS are Dawn of sorrow (i hate it because the designs were awful but gameplay wise is good), Portrait of ruin and Order of ecclesia, as always you dont know jackshit about what are you talking