Brianna Wu / John Walker Flynt - "Biggest Victim of Gamergate," Failed Game Developer, Failed Congressional Candidate

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Peace and Harmony said:
It would look like something that you don't know shit about because you're not a fucking programmer.

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Sure, Wu, let's have this convo:
It would look like a fantasy, because it is impossible.
The data is already out there. It is out there for all of us. Life on the web for the past 20 years means that your everything is everywhere, and anyone competent who looks long enough will eventually find it.
For any system like this to be effective, you would need to have been doing it from day one. You haven't.
Your "personal data" has been scattered to the four fucking winds, and is bought and sold by marketing companies from every social media platform you're addicted to.
You can't put the genie back in the bottle, and the most powerful forces in tech are banking on it.
Good luck!
 
CWCissey said:
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(A chilling tale of post-Cold War superweapons)
 
Peace and Harmony said:
It would look like something that you don't know shit about because you're not a fucking programmer.

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I don't want to :powerlevel: too much, but as someone who has implemented cryptosystems shipped to hundreds of millions of people, I haven't the slightest clue what Wu is even suggesting here.

This reads like one of those startup company madlibs "it's like Uber but for washing up." It's like code signing certificates, but for personal data.
 
By "certificate" he probably means birth certificate since he doesn't want anyone to know that he was born John W. Flynt, a white man from an incredibly wealthy family.
 
Norvic said:
I don't want to :powerlevel: too much, but as someone who has implemented cryptosystems shipped to hundreds of millions of people, I haven't the slightest clue what Wu is even suggesting here.

This reads like one of those startup company madlibs "it's like Uber but for washing up." It's like code signing certificates, but for personal data.
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Some time earlier he mused about securing email with end-to-end encryption (which is called S/MIME and exists, despite software not being really user friendly). This is probably John finding that single idea in his ambien-addled head and trotting it out for more asspats and bashing mansplainers.

EDIT: nah it's different shit
 
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Peace and Harmony said:
It would look like something that you don't know shit about because you're not a fucking programmer.

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The solution is actually very simple and has been implemented by many countries the world over, it goes like this:
1. De-powerlevel the SSN, it is now just some extra numbers that separate you from some another Brianna Walker Wu born on the exact same date.
2. Encourage(force) everyone to get legitimate, standardized and government approved photo I.D., even black people, everyone's getting on this bus.
3. Kill all the meth-freaks that commits identity fraud.

A user controlled and revokeable "code signing" system/apparatus for some numbers on a paper is much funnier though. Imagine that at the welfare office. Imagine a domestic dispute where someone chimps out and revokes their identity from the mortgage. Oh god, could you imagine Wu's America?
 
Shugo said:
I think Wu is saying she wants personal data encrypted, but for some reason thinks "code signing" is the technical term for encrypting data.
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Even if you're generous and assume she means some sort of encryption, it's the DRM problem. You can't simultaneously give someone something and keep it secret. There's no actual way to revoke data you've previously given someone, any so-called secure solutions rely on a heavy dose of obscurity and legal engineering.

Overreach in data sharing is a legitimate concern, but there's no technical solution to it. Ironically, the solution is legislation which supposedly is the job Wu wants to do. She's too obsessed with her "look at me, I'm a cool engineer" act to propose real solutions to real problems.
 
Norvic said:
Even if you're generous and assume she means some sort of encryption, it's the DRM problem. You can't simultaneously give someone something and keep it secret. There's no actual way to revoke data you've previously given someone, any so-called secure solutions rely on a heavy dose of obscurity and legal engineering.

Overreach in data sharing is a legitimate concern, but there's no technical solution to it. Ironically, the solution is legislation which supposedly is the job Wu wants to do. She's too obsessed with her "look at me, I'm a cool engineer" act to propose real solutions to real problems.
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This is what happens when you don't install the bios.
 
Norvic said:
I don't want to :powerlevel: too much, but as someone who has implemented cryptosystems shipped to hundreds of millions of people, I haven't the slightest clue what Wu is even suggesting here.
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John doesn't either. He's just incoherently vomiting up something semi-digested that he read somewhere else.
 
Norvic said:
I don't want to :powerlevel: too much, but as someone who has implemented cryptosystems shipped to hundreds of millions of people, I haven't the slightest clue what Wu is even suggesting here.

This reads like one of those startup company madlibs "it's like Uber but for washing up." It's like code signing certificates, but for personal data.
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Same here, it reads like Wu just strung a series of vaguely related words together.
Peace and Harmony said:
Kudos to John's dog for handling sexism properly.

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Frank doesn't count Brianna.
 
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Kosher Dill said:
It's funny hearing about revoking ID numbers from someone who tried to revoke their entire identity.
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We should have unique identifiers for people, though, so we could know if some suspicious, skeevy con artist was previously also a con artist named John Walker Flynt and have the ID be cryptographically sound and undeniable.
 
AnOminous said:
We should have unique identifiers for people, though, so we could know if some suspicious, skeevy con artist was previously also a con artist named John Walker Flynt and have the ID be cryptographically sound and undeniable.
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I think we should all have hexadecimal MAC addresses tattooed onto the back of our necks at birth
 
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