Brianna Wu / John Walker Flynt - "Biggest Victim of Gamergate," Failed Game Developer, Failed Congressional Candidate

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DykesDykesChina said:
That said, it's kinda pathetic how Brianna/Frank cling to motorcycles as an image of female empowerement. Brianna loves to be photographed next to one without even being able to ride it AFAIK.
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Pretty sure that the motorcycle obsession is all Brianna. But she's not into them enough to actually know a thing about them or even learn how to ride them; motorcycles are just an accessory piece to her or her character's image. Kind of like how Barbie will come packaged with pieces to indicate what her career/hobby is, Brianna thinks having one around will convince everyone that she's a cool executive or whatever. It was sports cars before but I can't tell you off the top of my head when she switched.
 
A motorcycle is cool, but in terms of storytelling, you have to ask yourself what the cycle adds to a character. James Bond rides a motorcycle occasionally cause it's tricked out with all kinds of gadgets and weapons he needs to do his job. Sons of Anarchy is a show about a biker club so Harleys are required. But what does Holiday's motorcycle say about her-from the game alone, fuck the lore book on this one. What does Holiday riding a motorcycle say about her as a character?

Answer that and you know more about Wu's little fantasy world then she does.
 
One of the things I find most amusing about Brianna Wu (who is a man named John Flynt) is he lives under the false assumption that he actually passes as a cis female, and people only ever figure out he's a he because someone "outed" him online. Apparently he feels that nobody would ever look at his hideous face, oversize hands and huge chin and figure out that Brianna Wu is actually a man (named John Flynt).

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I think Rev60 serves as a great insight into John's Psyche and his lack of mental development. He is obsessed with women hence his characters are are all exaggerated Bratz proportions and the desire to be a woman. He modeled his character's interactions after what he views women to act like in real life being always snarky, sarcastic bitches which is a childlike view. He also treats the game as it will be the next big thing in hard science fiction which he feels he has a master on but adds things in like bikes just because they are cool.

It is obvious that John stopped developing at a pretty young age, as if you take what he put into rev60 as a window into how he views the world, it seems like he has a childlike perspective probably from being sheltered his whole life and then the whiplash at being slaughtered with the training wheels on at college, his first exposure to the real world. It probably doesn't help that mutilating your body does not help your mental condition as injecting hormones into a person likely is not the best idea.

But what the hell do I know
 
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VidMasterEon said:
I think Rev60 serves as a great insight into John's Psyche and his lack of mental development. He is obsessed with women hence his characters are are all exaggerated Bratz proportions and the desire to be a woman. He modeled his character's interactions after what he views women to act like in real life being always snarky, sarcastic bitches which is a childlike view. He also treats the game as it will be the next big thing in hard science fiction which he feels he has a master on but adds things in like bikes just because they are cool.

It is obvious that John stopped developing at a pretty young age, as if you take what he put into rev60 as a window into how he views the world, it seems like he has a childlike perspective probably from being sheltered his whole life and then the whiplash at being slaughtered with the training wheels on at college, his first exposure to the real world. It probably doesn't help that mutilating your body does not help your mental condition as injecting hormones into a person likely finishing up puberty is not the best idea.

But what the hell do I know
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Jonh transitioned in his early thirties. He was long past puberty.
 
Ruin said:
Jonh transitioned in his early thirties. He was long past puberty.
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To be fair, OP was probably meaning that John may have been past puberty in a biological sense, he has yet to even reach the beginning of puberty mentally.
 
AngeloTheWizard said:
A motorcycle is cool, but in terms of storytelling, you have to ask yourself what the cycle adds to a character. James Bond rides a motorcycle occasionally cause it's tricked out with all kinds of gadgets and weapons he needs to do his job. Sons of Anarchy is a show about a biker club so Harleys are required. But what does Holiday's motorcycle say about her-from the game alone, fuck the lore book on this one. What does Holiday riding a motorcycle say about her as a character?

Answer that and you know more about Wu's little fantasy world then she does.
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Yeah, the lore book is no help there either. In the book, Holiday is listed as an assassin whose specialty is vehicle-based assassinations. What that means is anyone's guess and it ends up raising more questions like:

- Why did Holiday specialize in something so niche? Why not poison or a gun?

- Why did Holiday choose to focus on a motorcycle rather than a spaceship? Actually, if she's specialized in vehicle operations, why isn't she the pilot? Can she even pilot a ship or is it just motorcycles she knows anything about?

- Why is Holiday on the mission at all?

- What is the usefulness of an assassin who specializes vehicles? Seems like it's a lot harder to be covert with a vehicle than, say, a knife.

- Seriously, what does it even mean to specialize in vehicle assassinations? Does that mean she runs people over?

I think that couple minutes of thought is more than what Brianna gave to Holiday as a character in the entirety of Rev60's development cycle.
 
Francis York Morgan said:
Yeah, the lore book is no help there either. In the book, Holiday is listed as an assassin whose specialty is vehicle-based assassinations. What that means is anyone's guess and it ends up raising more questions like:

- Why did Holiday specialize in something so niche? Why not poison or a gun?

- Why did Holiday choose to focus on a motorcycle rather than a spaceship? Actually, if she's specialized in vehicle operations, why isn't she the pilot? Can she even pilot a ship or is it just motorcycles she knows anything about?

- Why is Holiday on the mission at all?

- What is the usefulness of an assassin who specializes vehicles? Seems like it's a lot harder to be covert with a vehicle than, say, a knife.

- Seriously, what does it even mean to specialize in vehicle assassinations? Does that mean she runs people over?

I think that couple minutes of thought is more than what Brianna gave to Holiday as a character in the entirety of Rev60's development cycle.
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Vechicle assassinations sounds like she's a drive-by expert.

Brianna gave the characters no thought. Strike 1, bitches. An author must knkw everything about their characters. Brianna should be able to answer these questions: "How was her childhood? Who were her parents? Why does she keep her hair like that? Why specialize in vehicular assassinations?" And that's just the start. We don't need to see all these answers in game unless it has an impact on the plot, but every piece of character backstory informs the author and enriches the story.
 
I am pretty sure vehicle-based assassinations is a Brazilian favela thing, right? Where one guy rides on the back of the motorcycle and another drives so they can cap some fools?

This is set in the real world, right? Holiday used to work for cartels or something, I guess?
 
Francis York Morgan said:
What is the usefulness of an assassin who specializes vehicles? Seems like it's a lot harder to be covert with a vehicle than, say, a knife.
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One of the funniest scenes in Rev60 is that moment when everyone is walking down a narrow hallway and Holiday zips through on her motorcycle :lol: True stealth in action!
Holiday's biking antics remind me of Vanilla Ice's movie "Cool As Ice". Specifically, the part when he jumps a fence on his motorcycle from level ground, because obviously he's just that cool.
 
Francis York Morgan said:
Yeah, the lore book is no help there either. In the book, Holiday is listed as an assassin whose specialty is vehicle-based assassinations. What that means is anyone's guess and it ends up raising more questions like:

- Why did Holiday specialize in something so niche? Why not poison or a gun?

- Why did Holiday choose to focus on a motorcycle rather than a spaceship? Actually, if she's specialized in vehicle operations, why isn't she the pilot? Can she even pilot a ship or is it just motorcycles she knows anything about?

- Why is Holiday on the mission at all?

- What is the usefulness of an assassin who specializes vehicles? Seems like it's a lot harder to be covert with a vehicle than, say, a knife.

- Seriously, what does it even mean to specialize in vehicle assassinations? Does that mean she runs people over?

I think that couple minutes of thought is more than what Brianna gave to Holiday as a character in the entirety of Rev60's development cycle.
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I just realized Holiday's job could be done just as easily by a confused elderly person with a car.
 
AngeloTheWizard said:
Vechicle assassinations sounds like she's a drive-by expert.

Brianna gave the characters no thought. Strike 1, bitches. An author must knkw everything about their characters. Brianna should be able to answer these questions: "How was her childhood? Who were her parents? Why does she keep her hair like that? Why specialize in vehicular assassinations?" And that's just the start. We don't need to see all these answers in game unless it has an impact on the plot, but every piece of character backstory informs the author and enriches the story.
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I don't think Holiday fires a gun once from her motorcycle. But even if she did, she still doesn't have a real purpose for being there except that the writer (Brianna) said she's vital to the operation.

One of the things that I find insightful with the way Brianna "developed" these characters is the particular things she thinks are important. It mattered a lot to Wu that Holiday had that damn bike. They bother showing her dragging it everywhere and riding around on it at any available opportunity. She even had the team design a space station with a laser hallway of danger just for Holiday to have a scene where she rides the bike through it. Like, if it meant that much, why not make a Road Rash (or Temple Run since this was a mobile game first) knockoff?

Oh right. Because Brianna Wu didn't plan shit and assumed that money was all it would take to make her half-baked ideas a hit megafranchise.
 
Captain Cid said:
One of the thing I find most amusing about Brianna Wu (who is a man named John Flynt) is he lives under the false assumption that he actually passes as a cis female, and people only ever figure out he's a he because someone "outed" him online. Apparently he feels that nobody would ever look at his hideous face, oversize hands and huge chin and figure out that Brianna Wu is actually a man (named John Flynt).
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Occasionally he posts a photoshopped pic that makes him look like he has a small womanly jaw, in stark contrast to his normal appearance.

Francis York Morgan said:
Yeah, the lore book is no help there either. In the book, Holiday is listed as an assassin whose specialty is vehicle-based assassinations. What that means is anyone's guess and it ends up raising more questions like:

- Why did Holiday specialize in something so niche? Why not poison or a gun?

- Why did Holiday choose to focus on a motorcycle rather than a spaceship? Actually, if she's specialized in vehicle operations, why isn't she the pilot? Can she even pilot a ship or is it just motorcycles she knows anything about?

- Why is Holiday on the mission at all?

- What is the usefulness of an assassin who specializes vehicles? Seems like it's a lot harder to be covert with a vehicle than, say, a knife.

- Seriously, what does it even mean to specialize in vehicle assassinations? Does that mean she runs people over?

I think that couple minutes of thought is more than what Brianna gave to Holiday as a character in the entirety of Rev60's development cycle.
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The in universe answer is basically what we see in the opening with Holiday riding in dramatically. The real answer is because John thinks it looks cool.
 
Guinan's hats said:
I am pretty sure vehicle-based assassinations is a Brazilian favela thing, right? Where one guy rides on the back of the motorcycle and another drives so they can cap some fools?

This is set in the real world, right? Holiday used to work for cartels or something, I guess?
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Pittsburg Pirates. Hi Frank. :tomgirl:

So she gets her start riding bitch, maybe she doesn't have an imaginary driver's license with a cycle endorsement?
 
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