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Yeah, there's something almost Alice-In-Wonderland-meets-1984 in the insistence that the change in gender changes pronouns retrospectively as well, prompting articles to refer to how "Caitlyn Jenner met her first wife Chrystie Scott in 1972 and had two children with her, winning the men's decathlon at the 1974 Olympics two years later". That's literally the only way they'll accept you writing about that stage of Caitlyn's life, and it's nonsense unless you know the bigger picture. Style guides try to dance around this ('she parented a child' - maybe if we imply they're adopted then that's a better result?) but they can't cover all cases ('she won one of the decathlons at the 1974 Olympics')
So too was Brianna's insane "well, I'd write around the pronouns" claim. Brianna, earn my respect and fucking rewrite that obituary about that person, only not using pronouns - what a perfect example to showcase your journalistic skills, hey? Rewrite that shit the way it should have been written, post it on Medium and you'll actually show all us schmoes how fucking easily the right thing can be done. Oh wait, no, pronouns exist for a reason, you can't just will away sections of the English language that you find problematic. At least we don't have a language like French or whatever, where the nouns have genders. Can you imagine Brianna's salt-stream of being told her computer is the masculine 'le ordinateur' and there's no female form for it?
Yet there was no women's decathlon in 1974 at the Olympics - women entered the heptathlon instead (and still do, though a women's decathlon has been road-tested on occasion recently).
I honestly can't see what is wrong with "Caitlyn Jenner was born Bruce Jenner in wherever and rose to fame in 1974 upon winning the Olympic decathlon. He met his first wife Chrystie Scott in 1972 and had two children with her. (Blah). In 2015 Jenner came out as transgender and changed her name to Caitlyn." It's totally factual, it doesn't misgender anyone because it uses the gender that the subject identified with at that time and it can't possibly deadname someone because it indicates that she changed her name on transitioning.
Just because someone comes out as trans and identifies as female doesn't mean they always so identified.