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What are you opinions on GamerGate and Brianna Wu / John Flynt?

  • I am of no opinion towards either.

    Votes: 104 8.6%

  • I am neutral on GamerGate, but think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 631 52.1%

  • I am neutral on GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%

  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, but still think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 112 9.2%

  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 37 3.1%

  • I am PRO-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 309 25.5%

  • I am PRO-GamerGate, but still think that and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%
  • Total voters
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I should clarify - there is is likely no EIN number for Giant Space Kat. It likely doesn't exist because GSK doesn't likely doesn't exist as a legal entity. It's hard to prove for certain since I'm essentially proving a negative using government databases but GSK, as a legal entity is a ghost. I've searched for info on it in every state and with every name I can think of and there's nothing.

On the other hand, the corporation that owns the trademarks for Revolution 60 is called Chessboard Holdings, LLC. Chessboard, if you don't recall, is the name of the "good guy" spy agency in Rev 60. This is the company that Brianna essentially operates under and which she seems to be trying to obfuscate. If she has any full-time employees - like the "full-time" death threat handler as she claims - it would be a violation of federal law for not to have an EIN. I don't know if Chessboard has one or not, she's not legally obligated to provide it to anyone except employees (And the IRS, I guess?) seeing as how it's a private company, but generally EINs are pretty easy to find. Can't find any info on one for Chessboard Holdings, LLC though.

The Rev 60 trademark:
https://trademarks.justia.com/862/24/revolution-86224570.html
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Chessboard Holdings is not incorporated in Massachusetts and there is no record of it there. However, a connection to Delaware kept popping up when I was looking into it so I did a search for it in Delaware's Division Of Corporations database:

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So, it does exist, "legally."
 
Sorry for the doublepost but this seems to deserve its own. The Revolution 60 copyright registration. Note the name, which is not Chessboard.

I may update this post if I find anything more on this thing.

Type of Work: Dramatic Work and Music; or Choreography
Registration Number / Date: PAu003660719 / 2012-12-31
Application Title: Revolution 60.
Title: Revolution 60.
Description: Electronic Deposit.
Copyright Claimant: Giant Spacekat Productions, A Division of Gadanin Productions LLC. Address: 63 Moulton Rd, Arlington, MA, 02476, United States.
Date of Creation: 2012
Authorship on Application: Giant Spacekat Productions A Divison of Gadanin Productions LLC, employer for hire; Domicile: United States; Citizenship: United States. Authorship: text, Images.
Rights and Permissions: Frank Wu, Giant Spacekat Productions, 63 Moulton Rd, Arlington, MA, 02476, United States, (408) 569-2298, (650) 644-6461, qarlo999@hotmail.com
Names: Giant Spacekat Productions A Divison of Gadanin Productions LLC
Giant Spacekat Productions, A Division of Gadanin Productions LLC


And from the Delaware corporations database, this incomplete information

THIS IS NOT A STATEMENT OF GOOD STANDING
File Number: 4132468 Incorporation Date / Formation Date: 03/27/2006
(mm/dd/yyyy)
Entity Name: GADANIN PRODUCTIONS LLC
Entity Kind: LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY (LLC) Entity Type: GENERAL
Residency: DOMESTIC State: DE
REGISTERED AGENT INFORMATION
Name: BUSINESS FILINGS INCORPORATED
Address: 108 WEST 13TH ST
City: WILMINGTON County: NEW CASTLE
State: DE Postal Code: 19801
Phone: (800)981-7183

And this


Word Mark REVOLUTION 60
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Computer game programs; Computer game software; Downloadable computer game programs; Downloadable computer game software via a global computer network and wireless devices; Downloadable electronic game software for use on mobile phones, tablets, and desktop and laptop computers; Interactive video game programs; Video and computer game programs; Video game software. FIRST USE: 20080606. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20140724
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 86224570
Filing Date March 18, 2014
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition July 29, 2014
Registration Number 4657792
Registration Date December 16, 2014
Owner (REGISTRANT) Chessboard Holdings, LLC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY DELAWARE 63 Moulton Road Arlington MASSACHUSETTS 02476
Attorney of Record Shannon Jamieson Sadowski
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Note: the Moulton Road address is the same for the Gadanin Productions LLC and Chessboard Holdings.

The other interesting information is the attorney of record, who may not be of much importance. (In fact, I think that is the case. A search by this attorney turns up over 500 trademark registrations, so he probably just specializes in this for a flat fee.)
 
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AnOminous said:
Are we sure it doesn't exist at all? A while ago, I checked Massachusetts, but I haven't checked the rest of the states where it could be. I also just did a general search for corporations in Massachusetts with Brianna Wu or Frank Wu or John Flynt as a principal, with similar lack of results.

However, this doesn't rule out there being a corporate entity somewhere. It just isn't registered in Massachusetts.

Personally, I think it's likely it's a completely fictional entity, basically an alias or alter ego of Brianna Wu. Other than the fact that Wu would be personally liable for any liabilities or debts incurred under the name, I'm not aware if it's actually illegal to do this. If it is, it's probably for lacking some sort of business license and could fairly easily be rectified, and it's not tempting enough to really ween about it much.

ETA: Of course. . .this is assuming she actually paid payroll taxes and all that sort of thing for supposed employees. Pretty big if and it becomes a lot more interesting if she didn't.

As for the Delaware entity, it is very common to incorporate in Delaware because of a number of favorable legal conditions there (including that it isn't very easy to get at their corporate records).
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You're 100% correct on the the Delaware connection. The lawyer that Bwu used, New Leaf Legal does all of their trademark registrations in Delaware.

I really doubt there's anything illegal about using the GSK name. I just found it very odd that she uses the name but presents no copyright information regarding it or what it owns or any possible trademarks. Even in the software there's no mention of trademarks. It's just strange. Feels like she doesn't want anyone to know Chessboard Holdings, in the same way it seemed like Chloe Sagal didn't want anyone to know about her connection to John Paul Neumann, if you were insane enough to follow that whole saga.

My question in regards to legality only has to do with the EIN, and even then I'm only really interested as to if it'll reveal if she actually has any full-time employees or not. If she's only paying people on a freelance basis then she wouldn't need an EIN. But it would mean she's lying about the her employees. And if she does have full-time employees, it means she has to have an EIN that I can't find, and if she doesn't, that's obviously illegal.
 
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Jaimas said:
Employer Identification Numbers are used for taxation purposes. In the USA, they're used for when employees file their Federal and State tax returns, as well as for what taxes are determined to be owed to the federal government by the agency itself, as well as what rebates and credits the business is entitled to (there's a lot of these). If a business lacks one, it's not entitled to tax benefits, and, if it brings in enough income to be worthy of note, it can face penalties including fines. It's not a massive deal, business goes on that isn't properly legally backed up all the fucking time, but it can definitely explain why Wu's reputation with her employers is shit - she worked them off-the-books, which means they weren't entitled to benefits when they fucked off from Chateau de Wu and likely had no real job security.

No wonder Wu gets along so well with the Gawker supporters; they treat their employees the same.

@Yellow Yam Scam elaborates:



All of which brings me to this:



....Someone, please look into this.

Giant SpaceKat Productions. A Branch of the Kiwi Farms.

Wu will be fucking apoplectic.
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i can dream with the intro videos....
 
AnOminous said:
Sorry for the doublepost but this seems to deserve its own. The Revolution 60 copyright registration. Note the name, which is not Chessboard.

I may update this post if I find anything more on this thing.

Type of Work: Dramatic Work and Music; or Choreography
Registration Number / Date: PAu003660719 / 2012-12-31
Application Title: Revolution 60.
Title: Revolution 60.
Description: Electronic Deposit.
Copyright Claimant: Giant Spacekat Productions, A Division of Gadanin Productions LLC. Address: 63 Moulton Rd, Arlington, MA, 02476, United States.
Date of Creation: 2012
Authorship on Application: Giant Spacekat Productions A Divison of Gadanin Productions LLC, employer for hire; Domicile: United States; Citizenship: United States. Authorship: text, Images.
Rights and Permissions: Frank Wu, Giant Spacekat Productions, 63 Moulton Rd, Arlington, MA, 02476, United States, (408) 569-2298, (650) 644-6461, qarlo999@hotmail.com
Names: Giant Spacekat Productions A Divison of Gadanin Productions LLC
Giant Spacekat Productions, A Division of Gadanin Productions LLC


And from the Delaware corporations database, this incomplete information

THIS IS NOT A STATEMENT OF GOOD STANDING
File Number: 4132468 Incorporation Date / Formation Date: 03/27/2006
(mm/dd/yyyy)
Entity Name: GADANIN PRODUCTIONS LLC
Entity Kind: LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY (LLC) Entity Type: GENERAL
Residency: DOMESTIC State: DE
REGISTERED AGENT INFORMATION
Name: BUSINESS FILINGS INCORPORATED
Address: 108 WEST 13TH ST
City: WILMINGTON County: NEW CASTLE
State: DE Postal Code: 19801
Phone: (800)981-7183

And this


Word Mark REVOLUTION 60
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Computer game programs; Computer game software; Downloadable computer game programs; Downloadable computer game software via a global computer network and wireless devices; Downloadable electronic game software for use on mobile phones, tablets, and desktop and laptop computers; Interactive video game programs; Video and computer game programs; Video game software. FIRST USE: 20080606. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20140724
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 86224570
Filing Date March 18, 2014
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition July 29, 2014
Registration Number 4657792
Registration Date December 16, 2014
Owner (REGISTRANT) Chessboard Holdings, LLC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY DELAWARE 63 Moulton Road Arlington MASSACHUSETTS 02476
Attorney of Record Shannon Jamieson Sadowski
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Note: the Moulton Road address is the same for the Gadanin Productions LLC and Chessboard Holdings.

The other interesting information is the attorney of record, who may not be of much importance. (In fact, I think that is the case. A search by this attorney turns up over 500 trademark registrations, so he probably just specializes in this for a flat fee.)
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Can you link to the first one? This one seems more recent and uses the Chessboard name. Is there anything with the GSK name from recent times? Not that it matters that much, but that that trademark for Rev 60 is from 2012 and this one is from 2014 and Iwant to make sure that these particular ducks are in a row.

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Jaimas said:
So, we're doing some research, and it turns out that Giant Spacekat, as a company, does not exist.

We're looking into this, but it looks like Wu's development studio is entirely off the grid.
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Is that normal for small indies? I would think that any company that had payed employees would have have to be on the books somewhere for legal, insurance, and tax reasons. Did the chuckleheads other then Our Pet Trannycow do this shit gratis?

Edit: Super late.
 
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Alright, so I spoke with my bruh who works with trademarks and the fact that Giant Spacekat Productions is listed as the author of the copyright under Gadanin isn't a sign that GSK exists. Apparently, as long as you aren't claiming that that the authorship is an incorporation but that they are under an incorporation, you can do whatever you want. So if you wanted to say "Poop Poop Pee Pee, a division of Gadanin LLC" you could do that and it wouldn't be a big deal.

So for now, it seems to me that GSK is not a thing, but Chessboard LLC very much is and Gadanin LLC was at some point a thing, but is now a mostly inactive thing. What does all this mean? Well, nothing, really, other than interested parties should do more digging.
 
I would be interested to see Wu's reaction if some party registered the name of GSK and sent a cease and desist notification.

If done by a neutral 3rd party and played right, after all the last thing I want too see is Mr Wu racking in more hipster welfare because GamerGate is trying to steal his company, but an offer to buy back the name rights or be forced to changed his letterhead proffered by an neutral (preferably female) game developer in adult and professional manner would be very interesting.

Bonus points if Wu goes batshit on Twitter so a libel/slander charge can be offered by the attacked female dev.
 
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AnOminous said:
Sure. Here.

Oh, look what else turns up under Gadanin Productions.

Giant Space Chicken? Also in 2006, when the corporation was formed in Delaware.
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Yeah, I ran into..."The tragical historie of Guidolon the Giant Space Chicken : Guidolon the Giant Space Chicken & friends half-power half-hour" as well.

The Giant Space Chicken/Giant Space Kat connection is curious but I sort of doubt this is BWu's infamous animation project. None of the appropriate names for Bwu are in the credits. This looks to be all Frank's idea.

Here it is on youtube, btw:
 
Yes, I think your right about Bri's involvement. His names not on anything and we all know if Bri was involved his name would be plastered all over it.

My guess would be this was Franks attempt to get into TV, Gadanin might be Franks production company pre-Tranny hook up time.

It's actually not terrible...lame but kinda funny.
 
Hah, so Frank Wu technically owns all the rights to Revolution 60? Another resounding victory for feminism XD
I'm not convinced this whole "GSK doesn't exist" thing means much though. It's not illegal for Brianna to operate without incorporating, as long as all the taxes are done properly in the end. And I doubt we'll get any concrete proof that they weren't.
 
1. Grasping at straws way too much there, Wu

2. FPS Fixed

3. Wu getting the point: 0

4. I'm beginning to feel that Wu doesn't really play video games at all

5. Lol

6. I actually hope you make some more tweets whining about animu so I can laugh harder

7. Inclusion

8. Pack your bags, boys. We need to sell that culture since we own it :ween:

9. More shitty maymays as usual
 
Kosher Dill said:
Hah, so Frank Wu technically owns all the rights to Revolution 60? Another resounding victory for feminism XD
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It would be a marital asset, assuming they are legally married.

Alan Pardew said:
1. Grasping at straws way too much there, Wu
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All dat Splatoon sperging.

I've read a couple headlines saying "Splatoon is the new MLP" but not the articles. I thought they were saying it's a new thing that developed a following outside its target audience.

But after seeing Dobson and Wu both sperging up a storm about it, I think they really meant it's something with a toxic fandom you'd be better off dead than being publicly associated with.
 
Sweet and Savoury said:
Lol, that's Wu's animation project.

What a waste of Mommy and Daddy slush funds.

Here's a link with a brief description of it.
http://efanzines.com/DrinkTank/DrinkTank76.pdf

Ands here's the movie itself.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=id=MteAVvr_wrU;t=556
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Aaaand Wiki'd.

Brianna Wu said:
[MEDIA=twitter]605182692464959490[/MEDIA]
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How many copies of Rev60 are currently installed again? Most statistics say under 150K.

How many copies of DudeBro of Duty: Future Brofare Edition sell? About 17.5 Million. Fuck, Destiny, which Wu fucking hated, sold 22 million.

Yeah, Wu totes has a finger firmly on the pulse of what consumers want.

I'm lying, of course.
 
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Alan Pardew said:
1. Grasping at straws way too much there, Wu
[MEDIA=twitter]605005800038387712[/MEDIA]
2. FPS Fixed
[MEDIA=twitter]605011658172469248[/MEDIA]
3. Wu getting the point: 0
[MEDIA=twitter]605029551689879554[/MEDIA]
4. I'm beginning to feel that Wu doesn't really play video games at all
[MEDIA=twitter]605033165837729792[/MEDIA]
5. Lol
[MEDIA=twitter]605171849421594624[/MEDIA][MEDIA=twitter]605172454592512000[/MEDIA]
6. I actually hope you make some more tweets whining about animu so I can laugh harder
[MEDIA=twitter]605177454978838528[/MEDIA]
7. Inclusion
[MEDIA=twitter]605182692464959490[/MEDIA]
8. Pack your bags, boys. We need to sell that culture since we own it :ween:
[MEDIA=twitter]605186311901876224[/MEDIA]
9. More shitty maymays as usual
[MEDIA=twitter]605196034256568320[/MEDIA]
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Heck I love Splatoon but people doesn't give a shit if they are hurting someone they only want to have fun, make jokes about Ika Musume (In every freaking stream happen) and post memes in Miverse

Of course the obvious rules 34 exist worst of it, the Japanese love Splatoon so expect sickfuckery in the next comíket

On and BTW bribri Splatoon IS NOT A FUCKING FPS is a third person shooter
 
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