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What are you opinions on GamerGate and Brianna Wu / John Flynt?

  • I am of no opinion towards either.

    Votes: 104 8.6%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, but think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 631 52.1%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, but still think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 112 9.2%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 37 3.1%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 309 25.5%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, but still think that and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%

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Huh I always wondered what zero self awareness looked like.

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I'll just leave this here......

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The tweet in question (and they later apologized and took it down, much to Brianna's joy):



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It doesn't make sense that they deleted and apologized for that tweet. It would have made sense a year ago, before GG started, before everyone went into full SJW lockdown mode, but when I saw the tweet today it seemed like an intentional "fuck you" to that entire movement. I thought it was intended to show they weren't afraid of the SJW backlash, and just wanted to make entertainment.
Even if you don't personally find the image offensive, it's clearly the exact type of imagery feminists have been crying about this entire time and there was clearly going to be a backlash. Yet they deleted the picture, and apologized, as if they had no idea any of this stuff was happening?
 
the visual design is the thing that gets me about the game, the entire thing is just a mess of different texture qualities and clashing nonsensical colour. the combat as well, the vast majority of the actual game-play is spent doing that and it's just mindless monotony. it's unfortunate that no one with any sense will touch Rev60 for fear of the backlash from SJWs/GG. i would have LOVED to see Jim Sertling do a Squirty Plays of the PC port

One thing i've been meaning to ask people more familiar with Wu, has Wu ever acknowledged that she is trans?
Milo's article notes that she was active on Susans and that her contemporaries from Ole Miss know of her. Personally? In the last few years? Among the SJWs? No.
 
This is supposed to be a feminist game, right? What exactly is "feminist" about it??

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o2sGM9DwyZw
It seems to be a trite run-of-the-mill scifi story and the characters are prime examples of unrealistic body designs. As someone here said, they look rather similar to Bratz

I think Brianna Wu is convinced that simply making a game with playable girl characters is by definition "feminist", because, you know, there have never been any games with female playable characters, women are always just for decoration in games, because the gaming industry is full of sexist dude bros and Anita Sarkeesian said so in a video, so it must be true.

If someone wants to make a feminist game, they should create one based on Lenore Goldberg's Girl Commandos by Robert Crumb.

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...and the gameplay should be inspired by "Captain Blood".

So not only are the graphics and animation terrible, the dialogue is terrible and the character designs are fucking atrocious... but the entire gameplay consists of quick time events? I guess I shouldn't be surprised, I knew it'd be bad, but wow

Also all of the characters personalities seem like the most grating, one-dimensional "I am sassy-ass snarky bitch" clones. Why did anyone think this was a good idea?
 
So...when is Wu's video supposed to drop and go viral, exactly? Sometime after the new Sonichu issue comes out, right?
 

according to Anita, Bayonetta is the manifestation of all the evil in the world, alongside The Darkness II and all the games of Rockstar, but alas, she cant mess with based Kamiya because the backlash will obliterated her, is the same reason why Anita never talk about japanese games, because it would be silly, come on, just imagine the meltdown Anita and Wu would have if they play Senran Kagura, or even Neptunia, and i can post a list of thousands games that will offend SJW in atomic levels

SJW always play in home, because they know that japan is a grey area they cant touch without consequences, thats why no SJW talk about Kenichiro Taka or Katsuhiro Harada
 
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according to Anita, Bayonetta is the manifestation of all the evil in the world, alongside The Darkness II and all the games of Rockstar, but alas, she cant mess with based Kamiya because the backlash will obliterated her, is the same reason why Anita never talk about japanese games, because it would be silly, come on, just imagine the meltdown Anita and Wu would have if they play Senran Kagura, or even Neptunia, and i can post a list of thousands games that will offend SJW in atomic levels

SJW always playsin home, because they know that japan is a grey area they cant touch without consequences

Speaking of Neptunia, I really hope Wu would play that game, because compared to his dreck, THAT's a feminist game. Why, you ask?

1. Playable cast is all female, each with their own personalities and story roles. Even the main villain is a woman. All male characters are secondary characters at best. Hell, if you're a woman in that series, you have a chance of having story importance or being a badass.

2. As cutesy, fanservicey, and cheesy as it is, the whole game is a massive girl empowerment fest (the first game involves invoking that literally with the four main female characters over the course of the plot).
 
Speaking of Neptunia, I really hope Wu would play that game, because compared to his dreck, THAT's a feminist game. Why, you ask?

1. Playable cast is all female, each with their own personalities and story roles. Even the main villain is a woman. All male characters are secondary characters at best. Hell, if you're a woman in that series, you have a chance of having story importance or being a badass.

2. As cutesy, fanservicey, and cheesy as it is, the whole game is a massive girl empowerment fest (the first game involves invoking that literally with the four main female characters over the course of the plot).

He wont, because according to his rules it put UNREALISTIC expectations about womens, AND THAT IS OPPRESION against ugly ones there is no transexual or any playable character of color (i dont know about CyberConnect she is not black enough), glorify womens abuse (Tekken Masoquism),Oppress Homosexuals (the two brothers that worship Vert) and a long etc

*turn off the Wu.bat script

now my opinion

she wont play that game because it require some level of skills and has to learn how to grind in JRPG fashion, she admitted that only play casual games and hates everything that requires high levels of efforts, thats why Revolution 60 is just a bunch of QTE
 
I'll just leave this here......

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The tweet in question (and they later apologized and took it down, much to Brianna's joy):

https://archive.today/JdctW

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This is everything. This is all of Wu being the most Wu-tastic that ever Wu.

I keep seeing all this shit flying around about feminism and female representation and sex in the media, and it's either completely abolish all female sexuality or go this classic route. Everything is all about sex, but not about the women themselves, and that just pisses me off to no end.

I fucking love Bayonetta, and not once have I ever felt offended by it. You know why? Because she's not weak. She's this sex goddess who happens to be the most powerful being in the human realm. Bayonetta and Jeanne take shit from no one and individually kick so much ass they've devoured gods. There are no daddy issues, no forced romances with weaker male characters (sorry Luka, it's confirmed that you will never get some), and there's no dancing around their sexuality. They aren't just sexy; they fucking own it. Then, to make things even better, they have deep, well-developed characters. They are the heroes. They get shit done, and without them humanity is fucked.

And what have people like Wu done? They scream forever about positive female sexuality but can't wrap their heads around the fact that it takes a strong character to own their sexuality. A character with depth that illustrates there is so much more to her than the skin-tight black outfit. Wu doesn't have the maturity to understand this, so all she does is create something that is the exact opposite of everything she claims to have achieved. Her female characters are weak sex dolls with no personality or even unique physical traits. They are just a copypaste of each other, and we're supposed to look at these shallow models and feel like they own their sexuality?

Bayonetta is everything that Holiday will never be because the people who make the Bayonetta series understand that there's more to what constitutes a strong character than shallow "sexual defiance". No one treats Bayonetta or Jeanne like objects, but Wu created a line of Geisha Bots that are literally objects.

It looks like there's some of that "privileged white man" left in you after all, Brianna. No amount of surgery will ever change that.

/drops mic onstage
 
I can't imagine how Wu would ever LOVE a game like Bayonetta.

Not taking the blatant sexuality in account, the game is fucking hard. I'm playing through the first one on Wii U right now and it's constantly kicking my ass. On Normal. The second might be easier but it's still not an easy game, especially not for people who think QTE's are the epitome of game design.
 
according to Anita, Bayonetta is the manifestation of all the evil in the world, alongside The Darkness II and all the games of Rockstar, but alas, she cant mess with based Kamiya because the backlash will obliterated her, is the same reason why Anita never talk about japanese games, because it would be silly, come on, just imagine the meltdown Anita and Wu would have if they play Senran Kagura, or even Neptunia, and i can post a list of thousands games that will offend SJW in atomic levels

SJW always play in home, because they know that japan is a grey area they cant touch without consequences, thats why no SJW talk about Kenichiro Taka or Katsuhiro Harada

I do remember Anita shitting on Japan. She claimed something about the USA dropping patriarchy bombs that spread mass misogyny. And I'm only half joking.
 
Always a bit pathetic when a company backtracks and apologises just because some Twitter bigshot calls them out.

You thought the tweet was ok in your social media brainstorm session, you thought it was ok when briefing your artist, you thought their work was ok when uploading the JPG to Twitter… so why backtrack, delete it and start begging forgiveness. Not to mention it seemed to fit in with your game universe/humour just fine. Fable was one of the first games ever with a gay marriage option far more progressive than anything Spacekat has release.

Not sure is Wu truly loves Bayonetta as a game, think she just likes the character design because it achieves what her lame Charlie's Angels copy and pastes wished they could.

I'd love to see Wu or Antia tear Neptunia foolishly apart, especially considering the lead character designer is a woman.
 
I'll just leave this here......

https://archive.today/3EjW2
https://archive.today/SCfHo

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The tweet in question (and they later apologized and took it down, much to Brianna's joy):

https://archive.today/JdctW

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Well, Beer Mug Girl at least looks like her body's sufficiently corpulent to contain all the vital organs.

While certain other fictional girls...

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I just found something great on DA:

 
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according to Anita, Bayonetta is the manifestation of all the evil in the world, alongside The Darkness II and all the games of Rockstar
I'm pretty sure Rockstar games are one of the only good things left in this disgusting world.

Making games that consist of only QTE is the same as having to manually click to play the next episode during a Netflix binge.
 
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This is everything. This is all of Wu being the most Wu-tastic that ever Wu.

I keep seeing all this shit flying around about feminism and female representation and sex in the media, and it's either completely abolish all female sexuality or go this classic route. Everything is all about sex, but not about the women themselves, and that just pisses me off to no end.

I fucking love Bayonetta, and not once have I ever felt offended by it. You know why? Because she's not weak. She's this sex goddess who happens to be the most powerful being in the human realm. Bayonetta and Jeanne take shit from no one and individually kick so much ass they've devoured gods. There are no daddy issues, no forced romances with weaker male characters (sorry Luka, it's confirmed that you will never get some), and there's no dancing around their sexuality. They aren't just sexy; they fucking own it. Then, to make things even better, they have deep, well-developed characters. They are the heroes. They get shit done, and without them humanity is fucked.

And what have people like Wu done? They scream forever about positive female sexuality but can't wrap their heads around the fact that it takes a strong character to own their sexuality. A character with depth that illustrates there is so much more to her than the skin-tight black outfit. Wu doesn't have the maturity to understand this, so all she does is create something that is the exact opposite of everything she claims to have achieved. Her female characters are weak sex dolls with no personality or even unique physical traits. They are just a copypaste of each other, and we're supposed to look at these shallow models and feel like they own their sexuality?

Bayonetta is everything that Holiday will never be because the people who make the Bayonetta series understand that there's more to what constitutes a strong character than shallow "sexual defiance". No one treats Bayonetta or Jeanne like objects, but Wu created a line of Geisha Bots that are literally objects.

It looks like there's some of that "privileged white man" left in you after all, Brianna. No amount of surgery will ever change that.

/drops mic onstage

I have to wonder if part of this boils down to Wu just having gender identity issues. Nevermind the part where John Walker Flynt was a certifiable nutcase, the fact is Wu will never not look like a man in drag, and poorly at that. Flat chested, stringy body frame proportions, harder facial features, it's probably plain as day to everyone - herself included - and she avoids mentioning the whole tranny thing like the plague because doing so would only further admit she will never be a true woman.

But that in turn makes Wu a paradox. In truth, what she probably wants is to redefine gender roles in video games as based purely on visuals - make it such that the default character design in any game doesn't immediately stick giant chesticles on women, possibly even make everybody androgynous and you don't know their gender until you talk with them, if you can. However, the characters in R60 are so shallow they HAVE to be oversexualized as a giant underlined arrow that says STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER since if they actually followed the idea of non-obvious gender designs, you really would never be able to know they were females to begin with.
 
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