Brianna Wu / John Flynt - Original Thread

[PsychicFish]

It doesn't even really matter, if Wu thought Jace was real, that makes it legally ok to be afraid. Perceived threats are one of those few areas where ignorance is a defense.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

How exactly does one gaslight a person they've never had contact with?

Now you're literally gaslighting me all it will take now is a trigger and i could explode.

 

[Sarcastic Username]

It doesn't even really matter, if Wu thought Jace was real, that makes it legally ok to be afraid. Perceived threats are one of those few areas where ignorance is a defense.

Kinda sorta. The law recognizes that some people will just say "I'M AFRAID" at anything and use this to shut down society. To be prosecuted, a threat has to be a true threat, meaning a reasonable person has to be able to interpret it as likely. Someone very far away who cannot string two decent actions together doesn't count for that.

Wu pretty obviously loves seeing threats where none exist. She isn't a good exemplar of "reasonable person." Note that she kept on talking about how she got a "detailed threat" which came down to "putting a hex on Brianna Wu."

You can be threatened by someone using a pseudonym. If she had a legitimate claim of "threat" against Jace, she has a legitimate claim against the real person. Given her tendency to overstate things as extremely as possible, it's tough to figure out the truth. Which is probably as she likes it.

 

[ʕノ•ᴥ•ʔノ Pander]

If Wu is fake I will piss myself laughing. SJWs will be btfo forever, gg no gf

If anything, I think wu's the only person aggros have going for them. If Wu truly is fake, GG wins.

 

[Gaol]

Don't know if this has already been posted I'l erase it if it has.

http://kotaku.com/indie-dev-cancels-pax-east-booth-over-security-concerns-1687032150

 

[CWCissey]

Don't know if this has already been posted I'l erase it if it has.

http://kotaku.com/indie-dev-cancels-pax-east-booth-over-security-concerns-1687032150

Yeah we knew she Sarkeesian'd

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Oh look, Patrick Klepek wrote another bad article. What a shocker.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I don't see why everyone is hyping the Jace revelation as a Wu destroyer. Everyone was fooled, not just her.

Except it reveals more of her lies by confirming the TRO could never have been legit - you can't file a TRO against somebody who doesn't legally exist as that document can not be delivered to that individual.

It also makes the whole thing with that interview look even worse for Wu, since if Jan -as Jace - was faking being a mentally troubled individual who still curbstomped the Wu attack dog sent to paint up Jace as a gigantic threat against her, then it just proves Wu's camp actively targets what they think is easy prey.

 

[NZDROW]

Except it reveals more of her lies by confirming the TRO could never have been legit - you can't file a TRO against somebody who doesn't legally exist as that document can not be delivered to that individual.

It also makes the whole thing with that interview look even worse for Wu, since if Jan -as Jace - was faking being a mentally troubled individual who still curbstomped the Wu attack dog sent to paint up Jace as a gigantic threat against her, then it just proves Wu's camp actively targets what they think is easy prey.

So in other words, another thing to add to the "List of reasons why Brianna Wu is not a good person?"

 

[XYZpdq]

ParkourDude91
13 minutes ago

Still laughing that an insane tranny wasted 2 days in court and hundreds of dollars trying to get a restraining order against a figment of my imagination

 

[Optimus Prime]

So in other words, another thing to add to the "List of reasons why Brianna Wu is not a good person?"

It shows Wu got beaten at her own game by the opposite strategy. This whole time, Wu has been playing her cards such that any kind of public mention of her is only positive. Her inability to back up these claims, her hypocracy, and absolute lack of tact quickly brings down all these attempts and she's struggling to stay relevant as GG is pretty much starting to cool down and making her fall back into obscurity. No amount of narrative control is going to fix that for her, after how hard she tried to put herself center stage in it.

But for Jan? As Jace and his friends the colorful (in every sense of that word) misfits of Deagle Nation, they've never been not in control of the narrative. The characters they play were all sketchy at best - including his own mother and the whole bit about repeated trips to Jesus Camp - and often times clearly people nobody really would want to associate with, but where they succeeded and Wu failed was consistency. Jace having back-and-forth moments of sanity and...not-sanity...was a perfect way to wave-away the problem of needing the character to act rationally in some situations (the "interview") while absolutely fucking bonkers in the other (Bibleman). But no matter what hate, what bile, what ever trouble came the way of DN, the characters could take it all in stride because, unlike Wu, they understood how the internet worked.

Case in point: Brianna's hilariously self-inflicted PR disaster of trying to make that thread to farm material for more accusation accusations...without realizing she wasn't using a puppet account but the one with her name plastered all over it. Nobody in DN ever, ever made that mistake. They made damn sure that their real identities were never associated with the DN crew on social media until now, since it's over. Which, ultimately, proves the people all faking mental disabilities for almost a decade put more goddamn effort into a constructed public image and maintaining it than Wu has done even with the news networks plastering her face everywhere for a month.

 

[tehfolder]

I read somewhere that Wu does live events on and off, is this true? Does she have a YouTube channel or anything?

 

[NegaCWC]

Sorry for the double post, but I had also read somewhere that John was claiming his amnesia was from an accident on his bike.

This reply is kind of overdue but... I'm guessing you're referring to this post, in which a former student from Ole Miss recounts his encounters with John Flynt. However, as I noted previously, other peolpe who knew John at Ole Miss recount that he used to tell about losing his memory due to a stab wound to the head rather than a motor accident. Why the discrepancy? At first I decided to be charitable toward Wu and considered the possilibity that the differences were not between the stories Brianna told of herself, but rather in how those stories were recounted by her former acquaintances. Time does tend to distort memories, so it's not unlikely that people who knew Brianna might somewhat misremember things she had said years before.

Unfortunately, furhter inquiry did not allow me to be kind toward Wu in my conclusions. Here's a livejournal post of hers from January 2008:

I would be honest and say I grew up almost entirely devoid of compassion. I was raised in an extremist sect of Christianity for the rich and privileged. My parents were products of integration in the racist South, although they didn't know it. I was raised to believe that the poor in our society had themselves to blame, and that blacks needed to act like whites in order to get ahead.

This fantasy-plex worldview continued for me until I was about 22. A near-fatal accident left me largely unable to function. I spent over a year without the ability to control my hands enough to write, and sleeping 14 hours a day as my brain worked to heal itself. It was hard to see at the time, but this was one of the most important things that ever happened to me.

The experience taught me that, as a society, we're all in this together - and we have a moral responsibility to help our fellow man. This doesn't mean through meaningless rhetoric, it means through taxes, equal access to economic institutions and laws to enforce these goals, when necessary.

This is remarkably similar to her introduction post at Susan's, except that now her great epiphany was caused by an "accident" (of what kind she doesn't specify) rather than a violent attack. If on the internet Brianna told different stories about the alleged traumatic event that led to her political enlightenment, why not assume that she was doing the same thing IRL? Wu's credibility is damaged even further when we look at her official biography on the website of Revolution 60:

At the age of 23, she decided to move to DC and work in politics for the Republican party — despite having no job leads. She threw everything she owned in her car and kept applying until she found work doing constituent services and fundraising. Wu has frequently spoken about this time period leading to a strong shift in her political views. Seeing the way the Republican party operated was in stark contrast to the ideals of the Republican party she saw stated on Fox News. By 26, she left DC disgusted — and decided to finish her undergraduate degree at the University of Mississippi.

By 2004, Wu was extremely frustrated with the Bush administration, and started reading books by prominent liberals reevaluating her beliefs. She spent 2004 campaigning heavily for John Kerry. In 2005, she was disowned by her parents over differences over the election and GLBT rights. Wu has stated she was homeless during this period.

So what led to Brianna becoming a warrior of justice? A violent attack, some kind of an accident or being exposed to the ugly truth of Republican politics? Going through Wu's online history is similar to tracing the different retellings of an oral folk story which is repeated by several individuals. In each retelling the story gets changed a bit while retaining its core elemetns, except that in this case there is only one story teller.

 

[KingGeedorah]

Don't know if this has already been posted I'l erase it if it has.http://kotaku.com/indie-dev-cancels-pax-east-booth-over-security-concerns-1687032150

 

[Chan the Wizard]

An accident you say...

Narrator: John Flynt, Republican Activist/Failed Animator, searching for a way to tap into the hidden strengths that all humans have. Then an accidental overdose of social justice warrior radiation interacts with his unique body chemistry. And now, when John Flynt grows angry or outraged, a startling metamorphosis occurs.
[while trying to program a game during a thunderstorm, John Flynt changes into Brianna Wu]
Narrator: The creature is driven by rage and pursued by a performance artist.
John Flynt: Jace, don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
[Jace witnesses an explosion from a building]
Narrator: An accidental explosion took the life of a fellow SJW and supposedly John Flynt as well. The performance artist thinks the creature was responsible.
Jace [voice over]: I gave a description to all law enforcement agencies. They got a warrant for murder out of it.
Narrator: A murder which John Flynt can never prove he or the creature didn't commit. So he must let the world go on thinking that he too is dead, until he can find a way to control the raging spirit that dwells within him.

 

[Trombonista]

From Susan's:

In 2002, I found myself working for the Republicans in the Senate in DC. Then, the best thing that ever happened in my entire life happened - I was nearly beaten to death in a brutal mugging 2 weeks after we invaded Iraq. They told me I'd never function fully again.

Only someone with a massive victim complex would call a violent mugging the best thing that ever happened in their life.

 

[Positron]

Maybe he's a masochist, who knows?

 

[KingGeedorah]

I'm sure we all hold life threatening beatings close to our hearts.

 

[Jaimas]

Shine on, crazy diamond.

 

[Xarpho]

This reply is kind of overdue but... I'm guessing you're referring to this post, in which a former student from Ole Miss recounts his encounters with John Flynt. However, as I noted previously, other peolpe who knew John at Ole Miss recount that he used to tell about losing his memory due to a stab wound to the head rather than a motor accident. Why the discrepancy? At first I decided to be charitable toward Wu and considered the possilibity that the differences were not between the stories Brianna told of herself, but rather in how those stories were recounted by her former acquaintances. Time does tend to distort memories, so it's not unlikely that people who knew Brianna might somewhat misremember things she had said years years before.

Unfortunately, furhter inquiry did not allow me to be kind toward Wu in my conclusions. Here's a livejournal post of hers from January 2008:



This is remarkably similar to her introduction post at Susan's, except that now her great epiphany was caused by an "accident" (of what kind she doesn't specify) rather than a violent attack. If on the internet Brianna told different stories about the alleged traumatic event that led to her political enlightenment, why not assume that she was doing the same thing IRL? Wu's credibility is damaged even further when we look at her official biography on the website of Revolution 60:



So what led to Brianna becoming a warrior of justice? A violent attack, some kind of an accident or being exposed to the ugly truth of Republican politics? Going through Wu's online history is similar to tracing the different retellings of an oral folk story which is repeated by several individuals. In each retelling the story gets changed a bit while retaining its core elemetns, except that in this case there is only one story teller.

Hey, it's like the Joker's Multiple Choice Past! Brianna did say she liked The Dark Knight, didn't she?