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Bonobos are more aggressive than previously thought, study shows​

Date: April 12, 2024
Source: Cell Press
Summary: Chimpanzees and bonobos are often thought to reflect two different sides of human nature -- the conflict-ready chimpanzee versus the peaceful bonobo -- but a new study shows that, within their own communities, male bonobos are more frequently aggressive than male chimpanzees. For both species, more aggressive males had more mating opportunities.


Chimpanzees and bonobos are often thought to reflect two different sides of human nature -- the conflict-ready chimpanzee versus the peaceful bonobo -- but a new study publishing April 12 in the journal Current Biology shows that, within their own communities, male bonobos are more frequently aggressive than male chimpanzees. For both species, more aggressive males had more mating opportunities.

"Chimpanzees and bonobos use aggression in different ways for specific reasons," says anthropologist and lead author Maud Mouginot of Boston University. "The idea is not to invalidate the image of bonobos being peaceful -- the idea is that there is a lot more complexity in both species."

Though previous studies have investigated aggression in bonobos and chimpanzees, this is the first study to directly compare the species' behavior using the same field methods. The researchers focused on male aggression, which is often tied to reproduction, but they note that female bonobos and chimpanzees are not passive, and their aggression warrants its own future research.

To compare bonobo and chimpanzee aggression, the team scrutinized rates of male aggression in three bonobo communities at the Kokolopori Bonobo Reserve (Democratic Republic of Congo) and two chimpanzee communities at Gombe National Park (Tanzania). Overall, they examined the behavior of 12 bonobos and 14 chimpanzees by conducting "focal follows," which involved tracking one individual's behavior for an entire day and taking note of how often they engaged in aggressive interactions, who these interactions were with, and whether they were physical or not (e.g., whether the aggressor engaged in pushing and biting or simply chased their adversary).

"You go to their nests and wait for them to wake up and then you just follow them the entire day -- from the moment they wake up to the moment they go to sleep at night -- and record everything they do," says Mouginot.

To their surprise, the researchers found that male bonobos were more frequently aggressive than chimpanzees. Overall, bonobos engaged in 2.8 times more aggressive interactions and 3 times as many physical aggressions.

While male bonobos were almost exclusively aggressive toward other males, chimpanzees were more likely to act aggressively toward females. Chimpanzee aggression was also more likely to involve "coalitions" of males (13.2% vs. 1% of bonobo aggressions). The researchers think that these coalitions might be one reason why aggression is less frequent among chimpanzees. Altercations involving groups of males have the potential to cause more injuries, and within-community fighting could also weaken the group's ability to fight off other groups of chimpanzees. Bonobos don't have this issue because most of their disputes are one on one, they have never been observed to kill one another, and they are not thought to be territorial, which leaves their communities free to bicker among themselves.

For both chimpanzees and bonobos, more aggressive males had greater mating success. The researchers were surprised to find this in bonobos, which have a co-dominant social dynamic in which females often outrank males, compared to chimpanzees, which have male-dominated hierarchies in which male coalitions coerce females into mating.

"Male bonobos that are more aggressive obtain more copulations with females, which is something that we would not expect," said Mouginot. "It means that females do not necessarily go for nicer males."

These findings partially contradict a prevailing hypothesis in primate and anthropological behavior -- the self-domesticating hypothesis -- which posits that aggression has been selected against in bonobos and humans but not chimpanzees.

The researchers were not able to assess the severity of aggressive interactions in terms of whether they resulted in wounds or injuries, but this is data that they hope to collect in future. They also want to compare aggressive behavior in other groups of chimpanzees and bonobos as it's possible that behavior varies between communities and subspecies.

"I'd love to have the study complemented with comparable data from other field sites so we can get a broader understanding of variation within and between species," says Mouginot.
 
So the one ape that feminists like to use to justify matriarchy turns out to be just as shit as the male dominated ape. Who would have thought.
 
Whenever I hear some clown talking about bonobos and how we should just fuck instead of fight I always ask them what they would do when confronted by a rapist.
 
But the orangutans are still cool, right? Please, let me have one cool ape!
Gorillas and orangutans are pretty chill but scary strong which is why you should still be cautious around them. Not quite as goblin-esque as Chimps and Bonobos.
 
This documentary covering one that escaped one time never stops being hilarious because they keep hyping him up as the scariest thing ever and he's just fucking walking around not giving a fuck and messing with shit he finds lying around.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vHgp5ZXpfiw
Ken Allan did the same thing. He'd walk around the zoo and just look at exhibits or mess with his rival Otis. He eventually got a harem he taught how to escape.
 
I always thought the "bonobos are peaceful and friendly" thing was bullshit, or at least overemphasized. You have to remember that primatologists are disproportionately women, and for whatever reason women are predisposed to thinking of violent animals as lovely cuddly things

The whole time I thought it was the bonobos that were more aggressive. I guess I heard it wrong. But it no longer matters because now it's actually right.
 
I always thought the "bonobos are peaceful and friendly" thing was bullshit, or at least overemphasized. You have to remember that primatologists are disproportionately women, and for whatever reason women are predisposed to thinking of violent animals as lovely cuddly things
Even if they weren't what sells better, another violent monkey found, or the missing link of love that contradicts the chimps?
 
The whole time I thought it was the bonobos that were more aggressive. I guess I heard it wrong. But it no longer matters because now it's actually right.
You never see bonobos chilling or doing cool shit with humans like you see chimpanzees sometimes doing. Makes you think.
Chimps can either be the best friends or the foes that can and will rip off your face cause they find it funny. All depends on what they want.
 
You never see bonobos chilling or doing cool shit with humans like you see chimpanzees sometimes doing. Makes you think.
That's mostly because there's more chimpanzees in captivity than there are bonobos. Almost all chimps in these sorts of videos are captive bred. Bonobos also have a much smaller range. They're native to a tiny part of the Congo. If I was an animal of any species over there, I'd try to avoid the crazy people having a new civil war every other day.
 
That's mostly because there's more chimpanzees in captivity than there are bonobos. Almost all chimps in these sorts of videos are captive bred. Bonobos also have a much smaller range. They're native to a tiny part of the Congo. If I was an animal of any species over there, I'd try to avoid the crazy people having a new civil war every other day.
Congo's got civil war and rape ape Bonobos, what a society!

Seriously though captive bred chimps are the ones known for going ape shit on people so pointing out the chimp in the video was probably captive bred does not change the chimp gambit dichotomy.
 
Chimps got a worse rep as they do it more often and are bigger.

Out of all the hominids, humans are by far the weakest in muscles and teeth.

Orangutans and gorillas are somewhat more docile. But they are still wild animals. I would take them as a roomate over a haitian or detroit nignog any day, but any of the 4 can fuck you up.

They also got much larger teeth. A chimp is basically a manlet werewolf with tard rage. Even with a metal bat or a knife your chances are not good.

Orangutan males are stronger, and gorillas are the strongest, like a bull. A gorilla can just chuck you into a tree if you fuck with him.

Even if you got a roided up Mike Tyson, and get equal strength to a chimp, it still has teeth and can maul you.

You can outrun them if you are a healthy human and they don't catch you fast. But don't try to melee them.
 
Chimps got a worse rep as they do it more often and are bigger.

Out of all the hominids, humans are by far the weakest in muscles and teeth.

Orangutans and gorillas are somewhat more docile. But they are still wild animals. I would take them as a roomate over a haitian or detroit nignog any day, but any of the 4 can fuck you up.

They also got much larger teeth. A chimp is basically a manlet werewolf with tard rage. Even with a metal bat or a knife your chances are not good.

Orangutan males are stronger, and gorillas are the strongest, like a bull. A gorilla can just chuck you into a tree if you fuck with him.

Even if you got a roided up Mike Tyson, and get equal strength to a chimp, it still has teeth and can maul you.

You can outrun them if you are a healthy human and they don't catch you fast. But don't try to melee them.
It's definitely one of those things where if you think about it, it's very magical and fantastical to have a couple races of freakish, deformed men wandering around. It'd would be like if goblins were real and we just treated them like another ape.
 
This documentary covering one that escaped one time never stops being hilarious because they keep hyping him up as the scariest thing ever and he's just fucking walking around not giving a fuck and messing with shit he finds lying around.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vHgp5ZXpfiw

Ken Allan did the same thing. He'd walk around the zoo and just look at exhibits or mess with his rival Otis. He eventually got a harem he taught how to escape.
The National Zoo had one of their males escape in 2000. If I recall he just found a place to chill until he was sedated and returned to his enclosure.

Are we sure this article is not just a way to promote the new Planet of the Apes movie like how it was done for the reboot series?

 
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The National Zoo had one of their males escape in 2000. If I recall he just found a place to chill until he was sedated and returned to his enclosure.

Are we sure this article is not just a way to promote the new Planet of the Apes movie like it was done for the initial reboot?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QxYmm5yCJBg
I wish the unwatermarked and non timestamped version of that video was still easily findable. Really kind of miss the weird ARG channels some movie studios used to make for shit they were making. Was kind of a cool little trend for a while and much better than the trend of just calling critics racist/sexist because the movie has a black woman in it.
 
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