Bikini Armor Battle Damage - Hypocrites and Sexy Art

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Grumpy Pickle Rick said:
Honestly, that’s one of the reasons I can’t stand BABD, they’re such ugly hypocrites. And they’re perverts.
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and some of the uno reverse card post I've seen always felt kind of unattractive to me too save for that one post (but that was leagues tasteful than all the gross speedo bulge crap). and in addition to dudes, apparently unconventional people get a pass because "muh stunning and brave" sexual empowerment. Please stop putting out of shape people in skanky outfits, it's looks dumb and will never work.

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weirdMcGee said:
Please stop putting out of shape people in skanky outfits, it's looks dumb and will never work.
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Agreed.

Ugly people can cosplay and dress in skanky outfits all they want but they will never make it work.

They want to be attractive?

They need to take better care of themselves; go on a diet, brush up on their hygiene and maybe try a different clothing style.
 
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I don't have the same preferences as most people here in that I think fetish gear (bikinis, studded leather) looks absolutely ridiculous in any kind of setting based on time before the 1950s. Barbarians and Vikings wore wool and linen, Romans wore tunics. Someone straight out of a San Francisco BDSM event has no place in that kind of ancient or mediaeval-ish setting at all and everyone would think that person was an insane heathen. I would say stuff like Lord of the Rings generally does this decently well with regards to costume design.

If you're talking about more contemporary/future settings though then those kinds of fashions are a bit more thematically appropriate.
 
Pointless Pedant said:
I don't have the same preferences as most people here in that I think fetish gear (bikinis, studded leather) looks absolutely ridiculous in any kind of setting based on time before the 1950s. Barbarians and Vikings wore wool and linen, Romans wore tunics. Someone straight out of a San Francisco BDSM event has no place in that kind of ancient or mediaeval-ish setting at all and everyone would think that person was an insane heathen. I would say stuff like Lord of the Rings generally does this decently well with regards to costume design.

If you're talking about more contemporary/future settings though then those kinds of fashions are a bit more thematically appropriate.
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I mean that really depends on the setting. I'm not big on bikini armor either but if you're fantasy story isn't trying to be 100% historically accurate and realistic then it's fine in my book.
 
Pointless Pedant said:
I don't have the same preferences as most people here in that I think fetish gear (bikinis, studded leather) looks absolutely ridiculous in any kind of setting based on time before the 1950s. Barbarians and Vikings wore wool and linen, Romans wore tunics. Someone straight out of a San Francisco BDSM event has no place in that kind of ancient or mediaeval-ish setting at all and everyone would think that person was an insane heathen. I would say stuff like Lord of the Rings generally does this decently well with regards to costume design.

If you're talking about more contemporary/future settings though then those kinds of fashions are a bit more thematically appropriate.
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It's a matter of style. Some people just like fur bikinis on barbarians. Nothing wrong with that, they're fictional characters swinging axes the size of a barn door and wearing pauldrons the size of the rest of the barn, realism has gone out of the window a long time ago. Sure, if you have a setting where everybody is dressed sensibly, someone being ridiculously skimpy for no reason draws attention, but even in those settings there's usually a justification.

The problem with BABD isn't that they would rather have a more "realistic" approach to fantasy. They don't. Plenty of their redesigns are unrealistic as fuck. The problem is that they're prudes doing this:

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There is plenty of space in this world for people who like chainmail bikinis and people who like practical plate armor. One side doesn't have to bash the other, and BABD has no business trying to dictate what people should or should not enjoy.
 
Not defending tiresome old cat ladies, but I just thought the cultural association of fetish gear with remote wastelands was an odd one to make. Those outfits are far more San Francisco than Siberia, not least because you wouldn't just freeze to death wearing a metal bikini in SF. I think any movie/TV show with those kinds of costumes would look pretty trashy, even more than Game of Thrones was, but having feminists in the middle ages is about as dumb.
 
Pointless Pedant said:
Not defending tiresome old cat ladies, but I just thought the cultural association of fetish gear with remote wastelands was an odd one to make. Those outfits are far more San Francisco than Siberia, not least because you wouldn't just freeze to death wearing a metal bikini in SF. I think any movie/TV show with those kinds of costumes would look pretty trashy, even more than Game of Thrones was, but having feminists in the middle ages is about as dumb.
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It's not necessarily an association as it is just a visual trope. I think the idea of people being underdressed in harsh environments was originally meant to portray how badass they were. Everybody else has to be covered head-to-toe in fur when crossing the Mountains of Death but the barbarian does it shirtless under a light cloak because he's just that damn tough. Eventually it just evolved into a trope.

Well, that and artists like drawing naked people. Conan the Barbarian is supposed to be very sensibly dressed in his own stories, but when you have Frank Frazetta illustrating your covers, you're getting very little clothing and you will like it.
 
Pointless Pedant said:
Not defending tiresome old cat ladies, but I just thought the cultural association of fetish gear with remote wastelands was an odd one to make. Those outfits are far more San Francisco than Siberia, not least because you wouldn't just freeze to death wearing a metal bikini in SF. I think any movie/TV show with those kinds of costumes would look pretty trashy, even more than Game of Thrones was, but having feminists in the middle ages is about as dumb.
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Corn flakes already said it better than I could, but can confirm. Sex appeal has always been a factor, but it was also always a thematic trope like a knight or paladin having bright, clear eyes, the wizard being thoughtful and wise, or even the hero in a western wearing a white hat.

It's shorthand for "that motherfucker's tough, to walk the snows/sandstorms/badlands with that much skin exposed. Anyone else might die even covered up". Early stories would often point that out, later ones left it assumed, even later ones forgot where the trope even came from and just went with what was now tradition. The sexiness just gave it lasting power.
 
Pointless Pedant said:
I don't have the same preferences as most people here in that I think fetish gear (bikinis, studded leather) looks absolutely ridiculous in any kind of setting based on time before the 1950s. Barbarians and Vikings wore wool and linen, Romans wore tunics. Someone straight out of a San Francisco BDSM event has no place in that kind of ancient or mediaeval-ish setting at all and everyone would think that person was an insane heathen. I would say stuff like Lord of the Rings generally does this decently well with regards to costume design.

If you're talking about more contemporary/future settings though then those kinds of fashions are a bit more thematically appropriate.
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It's a matter of time and place. I wouldn't want to see bikini armor in a period piece or Game of Thrones because they have a specific aesthetic but an over the top action series like Sengoku Basara or Dragon Quest is fair game.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
Even being old, powerful female barbarian with scars isn't good enough. Also, they don't mind topless warriors as long as they're not pretty (NSFW).
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It's not even that they don't mind topless warriors if they're not pretty. They don't mind topless warriors when they're ridiculous pastiches of sexy characters. There is really no better way to show what their mindset is than these two links put together.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
Even being old, powerful female barbarian with scars isn't good enough. Also, they don't mind topless warriors as long as they're not pretty (NSFW).
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eyo, that barbarian chick is badass. also, a bit of a hot take but i'm personally really peeving on the idea of topless girls especially larger chested ones as isn't it kind of weird to let you're tits be out in the open waiting to get slashed off? it would make sense to use bandage warps as a makeshift sports bra then running shirtless for no reason.
 
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