Bikini Armor Battle Damage - Hypocrites and Sexy Art

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Corn Flakes said:
Defend, no question about it.

It's a "heartwarming" story about a "young girl" fighting "oppression". Just look at all the articles trying their fucking hardest to spin it as some empowering feminist tale, and all the NPCs lapping it up.
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I bet they were the same people who complained about that big tittied, short-haired anime chick with the young face.
 
The composition was so awful that I had to actually largely re-do it by changing the third lady’s position from right to left and recreating large parts of the throne… some of which ended up covered by the main drow’s dress anyway (probably for the better).
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The composition is largely personal preference since it can look a bit odd, but generally speaking the viewers eye goes across an image in an S shape. If I were to mess with the composition, I'd be tempted to flop the woman on the throne so the eye flows better to the pair at the bottom, but I'd be hesitant to do even that.

I assumed the blank space at the top is for a title or other editing, the largely empty bottom left corner is for a bar code or price sticker. A quick search for the title confirms my suspicion that yes, this was a book cover.
 
Maybe it's just me, but I don't really like the new outfit they put on the queen. I know they're fighting the whole it's wrong to make the evil chick sexy, but this new outfit is just baggy and doesn't really scream queen or dangerous to me.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
Maybe it's just me, but I don't really like the new outfit they put on the queen. I know they're fighting the whole it's wrong to make the evil chick sexy, but this new outfit is just baggy and doesn't really scream queen or dangerous to me.
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Ironically the new outfit for the girl on the right would have been a better fit for the queen, what with the glowy blue bits, flowing sleeves, and the golden embellishments on the tunic and the boots.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
Time for a total change to this first edition design and the queen got the biggest change.
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As mentioned by @Judge Dredd this is a book cover! In that case the composition makes a bit more sense. I can see it being a bit more awkward with the cropping near the top, but I guess it was more or less done out of convenience. Doesn't stop BBAD from not researching that though!

The old version a bit generic, I admit. Nothing you haven't seen much of before, but again, these design changes are WEIRD. Like why is the orc blushing? That's so weird and I just noticed that.

Of course we get more complaining.

"This is where the infamous drow race is introduced, where I guess they were just… evil women of color. 😬 Unfortunate. We decided to make them purple-skinned like they are in more modern lore. "

Because...women of color can't be villains? Okay, I'm not saying to accept everything you receive as good representation, but if you want it OVERALL, you're going to get it. Meaning, you will have a variety of characters. Not just the generic "safe" token versions of them. Villains, Heroes, Anti-Heroes, Mentors, you name it. To act like people can NEVER make these characters a certain troupe because of previous horrible depictions is absurd. You don't have to like it, but again, this is what you get when you tell people to make their own works. You have no control over that.

"Just gotta say that it’s a huge pet peeve of mine when (usually male) writers write a matriarchal society as, air quotes, “sexually liberated,” otherwise known as “an excuse to draw them in lingerie because I can’t imagine women’s bodies not catering to me personally in any scenario, while still drawing men in full body armor.” Thanks for coming to my TED talk."

The same thing happens with women too. Especially with romance novels. How many romance novels/rom-coms are shirtless men whisking away a pretty woman? How many women write erotica/snuff about some big, handsome guy who's basically a perfect Adonis sweeping them off their feet? A lot. You can go to a general store and I guarantee you the women's section is filled with women authors/artists who draw and write the same exact thing. Both men and women engage in power fantasies. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. Wanting to feel empowered is why these fictional works exist. Different audiences will respond to other power fantasies depending on their own tastes. Furthermore, going into another power fantasy you don't like and calling it problematic is of course going to be stupid because it's not geared towards your interests. I guarantee you plenty of women would not like it if men went into their hobby, called it problematic, and turned every Adonis on those covers into generic guys.

"Speaking of which, boy was she hard to fix without just throwing everything away and starting over! First of all, the way she sits on the throne seems like a product of an alien who never experienced what a chair is… which might also explain the throne’s uncomfortable-looking design. I actually ended up giving it a bigger seat and more lumbar support."

Okay, a bit of art sperging here, but the example while a little wonky still makes sense for the perspective and is clearly a product of personal taste. Not everything has to be drawn 100% realistically. It just has to make sense. It's really not an awkward pose. Most people could do it on a high enough chair. I agree the chair itself is a little wonky (mostly because several characters cover it up) but it's not the worst post. That and the new lumbar is rather unnecessary.

Also, I love how they're basically erasing a minority character to by just making them a new creature...the same crap they complain about others doing for these characters! So instead of just putting a new outfit on her, the character doesn't deserve to exist even if people like her because she's too sexy and appeals to men. If this doesn't prove that they don't care about their own "morals" regarding representation perfectly, I don't know what else could. These are the same people who will whine about not getting perfect represent when no one wants to deal with their pettiness.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
Which is ironic since they don't like RWBY for sexualizing teen girls.
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Pyrrha was 17 when she died. Most countries treat 16 as their age of consent, and teenagers are glad to show that they think so. This is not the same as preteen girls engaging in provocative behavior on film.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
Which is ironic since they don't like RWBY for sexualizing teen girls.
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"I think she would not get an arrow through her cleavage if she wore this armor!"

Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t arrows and crossbow bolts designed to pierce a lot of armors? And didn’t this character get shot point blank with a magic arrow and she pretty much disintegrated on contact? They even mention at the end that plate armor won’t necesarily protect you from an arrow, so why bring it up like it’s a big gotcha when you undermine your own point in the same post?

It’s not even a double standard anymore, it’s more like an infinitely evolving standard where "muh realism" and "muh suspension of disbelief" are brought up interchangeably and even in directly contradictory statements just to serve the narrative that all cases of women showing skin or being attractive are bad in every context.
 
One Man Bland said:
It’s not even a double standard anymore, it’s more like an infinitely evolving standard where "muh realism" and "muh suspension of disbelief" are brought up interchangeably and even in directly contradictory statements just to serve the narrative that all cases of women showing skin or being attractive are bad in every context.
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It's an old SJW standard, as old as... well, shitty arguments.

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I have to wonder how many impressionable teenage boys have developed a fetish for women getting shot by arrows right between their tits because of this group.
 
One Man Bland said:
"I think she would not get an arrow through her cleavage if she wore this armor!"

Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t arrows and crossbow bolts designed to pierce a lot of armors? And didn’t this character get shot point blank with a magic arrow and she pretty much disintegrated on contact? They even mention at the end that plate armor won’t necesarily protect you from an arrow, so why bring it up like it’s a big gotcha when you undermine your own point in the same post?

It’s not even a double standard anymore, it’s more like an infinitely evolving standard where "muh realism" and "muh suspension of disbelief" are brought up interchangeably and even in directly contradictory statements just to serve the narrative that all cases of women showing skin or being attractive are bad in every context.
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Another thing: RWBY's lore makes it so that armor is virtually useless anyway. Most characters are protected by what amounts to an Aura field around their body, which is how characters like Blake and Yang can fight without injury with even more exposed skin. Having cleavage protection would mean nothing against magic "fuck you" arrows, as you said.
 
Flaming Insignias said:
Another thing: RWBY's lore makes it so that armor is virtually useless anyway. Most characters are protected by what amounts to an Aura field around their body, which is how characters like Blake and Yang can fight without injury with even more exposed skin. Having cleavage protection would mean nothing against magic "fuck you" arrows, as you said.
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Even when a show tries to give some sort of explanation to create a fun setting (problems with RWBY aside) these people have to continually move the goalpost. Again, What do they want?

All it seems like to me is that they want to most boring, blandest characters possible without any sort of hint of what could possibly be offensive. No wonder places like this and r/mendrawingwomen praise the beanmouth style so much found in so many modern cartoons. It's just nothing you can work with. Then again, as seen by the Mii post...they complain about that too!
 
One Man Bland said:
"I think she would not get an arrow through her cleavage if she wore this armor!"

Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t arrows and crossbow bolts designed to pierce a lot of armors? And didn’t this character get shot point blank with a magic arrow and she pretty much disintegrated on contact? They even mention at the end that plate armor won’t necesarily protect you from an arrow, so why bring it up like it’s a big gotcha when you undermine your own point in the same post?

It’s not even a double standard anymore, it’s more like an infinitely evolving standard where "muh realism" and "muh suspension of disbelief" are brought up interchangeably and even in directly contradictory statements just to serve the narrative that all cases of women showing skin or being attractive are bad in every context.
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The point you make about suspension of disbelief is absolutely right, a crossbow bolt would penetrate most contemporary armour anyway, that's why they persisted to a degree where bowmen became obsolete despite their shorter range and lower rate of fire.

BABD know pretty much nothing about arms and armour, they're only good at dressing characters in puffy pants.
 
Flaming Insignias said:
Not to be horny, but I think that muscle girls can be pretty hot. Of course, I also like them to look like women, and preferably have good assets rather than the tranny-but-not that is Abby Arms-are-Way-Too-Strong. As a quick demonstration, here's Rinkah, a Fire Emblem girl who is absolutely shredded.
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I'm surprised she is wearing pants. It's not even faux pants where the bare legs are visible.
 
Caddchef said:
They're not even trying to hide the fact that they're just a bunch of prudes shouting into an echochamber, the "redraw" is literally just "hi guiz, i covered her exposed skin, THE WHORE! Now she's less problematic".
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They claim they don't mind bare shoulders, but I rarely see them not cover them up.
 
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