Bikini Armor Battle Damage - Hypocrites and Sexy Art

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Corn Flakes said:
Here's the eloquent opinion of an African-American gentlemen I'm quite well-acquainted with, with regards to Abby:
"Bitch looks like a man."​

Personally, I'm wondering how are crossfit gyms and whey protein vendors still open in this "gritty" and "realistic" post-apocalypse situation.
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I remember some people trying to retort to those not liking Abby's design showed some screenshots of a gym and some butcher shop and a couple cows. The gym might make sense but for the butcher shop, that makes me wonder where does the meat come from because I'd imagine more on the idea that people surviving on meat may need to just smoke and jerky it rather than have fresh cuts, and meat would seem more like a luxury in the apocalypse if one were to have regular meals with it, especially with mushroom zombies lurking around.

Ruin said:
If Abby's physique is so normal than why do none of the other characters have even remotely similar builds. Even other members of the wolves (Abby's paramilitary group) are less muscular, yes even the men.

The only fictional woman I can think of with a similar build is Noi from Dorheadoro and she's a sorcerer who used magic to get that way. TLOU2 is allegedly a realistic setting.
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Only thing realistic may as well just be the faces of the people but I seen more realistic faces from Rockstar's last cowboy game and Kojima's mailman game with Norman Reedus. The apocalypse setting for TLOU2 would leave me asking some autistic questions as to how one could build up civilization in the zombie apocalypse or at least having cows living in a football stadium.

Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
She may be fully armored, but her skin is the wrong color and she's too "Disney-fied".
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Looking into it just to see what they were sperging about until I saw this:
So since the screaming baby rage machine is still going full throttle, it’s probably worth bringing this back to highlight how this issue goes and the general expectations regarding fictional buff ladies.

After decades of pandering, capital-G gamers will accept buff ladies if:

  • They’re clearly in the service of a manly (cishet) man
  • They have some cute costuming to make them non-threatening
  • They are easily Disneyfied
They will lose their shit if the lady:

It’s never really about what they say it is - it’s always about “does this clearly prioritize me above everyone else, to the extent of excluding others”.

- wincenworks
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I know gamers can be spergs and shit but honestly, I don't really get how disneyfied means one would like muscle women until seeing it just refers to Abby from TLOU 2. Even for msucle women, Abby doesn't really scream that so much as angry jacked 15 year old in the first reveal image she had with the golf club. All I can say for that is that if one had the body captures done with the same thing Kojima and Capcom had, the people in that would look on par as Norman Reedus did in Death Stranding. Also having looked at gamer deviants, I didn't see much "binding loyalties" to "cishet men" so much as "I want her to crush my head with her legs." Also not getting the "cute costume" stuff unless their only example was really some Overwatch skins. The only thing they may have going for is "not designed primarily to appeal to men" but then again if we're going by appearance, I'm betting on the idea the appearance itself is one that's gonna vary as to how the design looks compared to others and who made it.
 
Hold on, that "capital-G gamers will only accept buff ladies if:" bit is stupid. Even in the game they were criticizing with Brigitte:

Zarya is a buff woman, working under another woman, with no "cute" costuming to make her non-threatening (even her "casual" skins still show off how big she is), and she's sure as fuck not easily Disneyfied.

But again, if I'm asking for ideological consistency from these people, I'm just setting myself for disappointment.
 
Corn Flakes said:
Hold on, that "capital-G gamers will only accept buff ladies if:" bit is stupid. Even in the game they were criticizing with Brigitte:

Zarya is a buff woman, working under another woman, with no "cute" costuming to make her non-threatening (even her "casual" skins still show off how big she is), and she's sure as fuck not easily Disneyfied.

But again, if I'm asking for ideological consistency from these people, I'm just setting myself for disappointment.
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It's funny how they talk about how straight gamer guys can't handle buff women in reference to Senator Abstrong, but I distinctly remember a lot of guys thirsting after Zarya during the height of Overwatch's popularity and she's jacked as fuck. Guys certainly can like buff women, but not muscly androgynous rage creatures like Abby.
 
madethistocomment said:
It's funny how they talk about how straight gamer guys can't handle buff women in reference to Senator Abstrong, but I distinctly remember a lot of guys thirsting after Zarya during the height of Overwatch's popularity and she's jacked as fuck. Guys certainly can like buff women, but not muscly androgynous rage creatures like Abby.
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To put it bluntly, they have no idea what men like in a female protagonist.

Yeah, men like T&A. Humans are visual creatures, and men even more so. But if all your character has is T&A, it will be lost in the flotsam of character design. The looks of the character are what get her foot in the door, but it's her personality and her actions that make her memorable. No one remembers anything about the protagonist from Lollipop Chainsaw, but we remember Lara Croft in her original games, where she had sass and wasn't a punching bag for the sake of "deep and serious writing".

Going beyond videogames, just look at very plain-looking female characters in Western media like in, say, Avatar the Last Airbender. Katara, Toph and Suki are all very modestly-dressed (until Season 3, anyway), memorable characters, all beloved by the male audience (some to unhealthy degrees), and none of them are "clearly in the service of a manly (cishet) man"(*). Katara and Toph are part of the group out of their own convictions, and Suki and her warriors were clearly important figures in their village. And guess what? Suki and her girls were defeated and captured by... the villainous girl trio. And no one batted an eyelash, because those were all memorable characters that made sense.

They accuse men of not being able to look past some exposed skin, but their own analyses of how and why characters are interesting is insultingly skin-deep. They claim men can only think with their dicks, but these cunts aren't thinking at all.

(*) By the way, have you noticed that they went out of their way to specify "cisgender and heterosexual" instead of just "man"? By their own words, a female character is perfectly fine if she's subservient to a gay man and/or a transman. I'm not sure that's the meaning they intended.
 
So, with the SJW crowed defending buff women from straight white male gamers who can't handel them, does that mean the Amazon from Dragon's Crown is now officially woke?

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We've gone full circle.
 
They conflate hatred of Abby's personality, and criticism of the "realism" behind her roided out body, with fear of muscular women. Fat ass Jim Sterling does this a lot as well.

If Abby hadn't developed a swarm of shrieking banshees touting her body as realistic and easily obtainable there wouldn't be anywhere near the amount of shit slinging. She's the only woman in the entire franchise with that sort of build, and zero indication of how she maintains it without steroids, supplements and ten thousand calories a day. Murdering a couple of people and eating goats doesn't bulk you up like that, and nobody would've given a shit in any other setting.
 
Catgirl IRL said:
They conflate hatred of Abby's personality, and criticism of the "realism" behind her roided out body, with fear of muscular women. Fat ass Jim Sterling does this a lot as well.

If Abby hadn't developed a swarm of shrieking banshees touting her body as realistic and easily obtainable there wouldn't be anywhere near the amount of shit slinging. She's the only woman in the entire franchise with that sort of build, and zero indication of how she maintains it without steroids, supplements and ten thousand calories a day. Murdering a couple of people and eating goats doesn't bulk you up like that, and nobody would've given a shit in any other setting.
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I'm sure if Abby wasn't a murderous semi-Mary Sue that the developers pushed extremely hard to be "likeable" over the established character players already liked, people would have likely been more positive towards her. As it was, her entire existence felt like the developers trying to tell players who and what to like.
 
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Makes changes for realism, gives enormous level of drag for grappling hook.

Also purple isn't meant to represent spiders you silly cow, it's a colour associated with power and mobility.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
We got a blandly-colored redesign of Widowmaker with poofy pants.
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Another day, another pointless edit.

I think we can add "doesn't understand fabric physics" to the Bikini Armor Battle Damage Can't Draw Bingo. Seriously, who stuffed her legs into a pair of unripe bananas?

Also, while I'm cool with giving her a top (at least they didn't try to erase her tits), you can't just chop someone's ponytail off and have it retain the exact same shape.

Way to miss the point of why her skin is blue, too.
 
madethistocomment said:
It's funny how they talk about how straight gamer guys can't handle buff women in reference to Senator Abstrong, but I distinctly remember a lot of guys thirsting after Zarya during the height of Overwatch's popularity and she's jacked as fuck. Guys certainly can like buff women, but not muscly androgynous rage creatures like Abby.
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BABD is outdated in thinking people still dislike buff Amazons like it was 10 years ago.

Corn Flakes said:
Do we have a clean BABD bingo card anywhere on this thread? I think the Bikini Armor Battle Damage Can't Draw bingo needs to be a thing and I want to use it as inspiration.
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I made a bingo draft last year. The improved version is here.
 
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