Bikini Armor Battle Damage - Hypocrites and Sexy Art

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jellycar said:
Lol are you butthurt because wamen
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I’ve seen those claims a hundred times before during gamergate and its successors, and so I‘ve gotten to the point where I need to call out these falsehoods where I can. The fact that BABD has a reputation for uglifying pretty women, means that the people being called out being women is irrelevant.
 
Flaming Insignias said:
I’ve seen those claims a hundred times before during gamergate and its successors, and so I‘ve gotten to the point where I need to call out these falsehoods where I can. The fact that BABD has a reputation for uglifying pretty women, means that the people being called out being women is irrelevant.
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Look at the female in the upcoming Assassin's Creed game. She's hulking
 
It's a cow crossover with Jim Sterling. Imagine thinking Commentocracy is anything other than cringe incarnate.

It's always strange to me when people cite themselves as a source for an outside opinion. It's like retweeting yourself. It makes no sense.

Manchildren targeting Abby’s muscular body as “unrealistic for a woman”
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Hasn't that been her entire argument since BBAD first started? I guess she's being honest calling herself a manchild, but I doubt that was her intent.
 
Here's the eloquent opinion of an African-American gentlemen I'm quite well-acquainted with, with regards to Abby:
"Bitch looks like a man."​

Personally, I'm wondering how are crossfit gyms and whey protein vendors still open in this "gritty" and "realistic" post-apocalypse situation.
 
If Abby's physique is so normal than why do none of the other characters have even remotely similar builds. Even other members of the wolves (Abby's paramilitary group) are less muscular, yes even the men.

The only fictional woman I can think of with a similar build is Noi from Dorheadoro and she's a sorcerer who used magic to get that way. TLOU2 is allegedly a realistic setting.
 
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Ruin said:
If Abby's physique is so normal than why do none of the other characters have even remotely similar builds. Even other members of the wolves (Abby's paramilitary group) are less muscular, yes even the men.

The only fictional woman I can think of with a similar build is Noel from Dorheadoro and she's a sorcerer who used magic to get that way. TLOU2 is allegedly a realistic setting.
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don't disrespect noi like that, her gains are triple abby's.
 
Ghost Boy said:
Noi is best girl.
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True

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Here's the interesting thing about Noi/ Abby discourse that has been brought up from time to time and is very relevant to this thread:

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One of these characters is designed by a woman, one is designed by a man, wonder if Ozzy could guess which is which.
 
Flaming Insignias said:
Brigitte is Torbjörn’s daughter. Torbjorn is an Extremely Nordic not-a-dwarf. Of course she would be a white.
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I'm sure they'd argue that Torbjorn "could have totally married a black nonbinary Senegalese and that he didn't do it is strong evidence that Blizzard is clearly racist".
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
She may be fully armored, but her skin is the wrong color and she's too "Disney-fied".
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You see companies like Disney make conventionally attractive characters with quirks BECAUSE they want the widest amount of appeal possible. Anime, manga, games, etc. Whenever you're going to make a connection with some sort of audience you typically want something that is easy on the eyes and fits with the theme of the media you're trying to present. It doesn't mean that these rules can't be broken. Plenty genres break the rules in interesting ways (e.g. horror). It's just another way to sell you things. Because conventionally attractive characters (especially cartoon/anime ones) tend to sell A LOT of merchandise. Outliers and other non-conventional character designs can also sell well. There's no denying it. It's just more work to sell those characters to an audience that may not even be interested in them to begin with.

It's a double-edged sword really. I agree with the notion that finalized designs can become kind of samey as most companies will go with the safest option possible to generate more revenue and that a change of pace shouldn't be a death sentence. HOWEVER, I also don't agree with Bikini Armor Battle Damage with how they blame the concept artists for this while insulting their work. It's mostly an executive decision sometimes out of their control. Concept artists can come up with cool stuff that doesn't make the cut for said reasons and other explanations. It doesn't mean that they didn't necessarily care about the design, sometimes it just didn't work for what they were going for.

The changes that Bikini Armor Battle Damage made are extremely clunky and it's easy to see why their edits (for the most part) wouldn't work. The appeal that most companies are looking for or that most people want isn't present with these redesigns. They just look meh. It doesn't mean you can't make unappealing designs in general, but it's just going to be harder to market in certain cases which is what matters. Not everyone wants the most practical, down-to-earth designs available. It's nice when it happens, but this universal standard of needing it to be this way every time is absurd.
 
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