Bikini Armor Battle Damage - Hypocrites and Sexy Art

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John Titor said:
Technically not BABD, but I thought it should get an honorable mention here. Or would this go in SJW art? Although I'm surprised they didn't go after this one. On the other hand, the last time they went after SMT, they admitted they knew nothing about the series.
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The funniest thing is that this chick has a “DON’T REPOST/ALTER MUH ARTWORK WEHHHHH” warning in her profile... and yet she happily takes someone else’s artwork and modifies it to get asspats.

She got told to go fuck herself by Twitter, and unsurprisingly locked her account to escape the consequences of her own hypocrisy and stupidity. :story:
 
John Titor said:
Technically not BABD, but I thought it should get an honorable mention here. Or would this go in SJW art? Although I'm surprised they didn't go after this one. On the other hand, the last time they went after SMT, they admitted they knew nothing about the series.
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Persona 5 autism incoming. The Phantom thieve's outfits take the form of various aspects of their personalities. Makato's is an outlaw biker outfit because she secretly yearns to operate outside the law in order to seek justice. Futaba's looks like an 80's sci fi Tron like suit because she's an otaku who loves sci fi/fantasy. The new girl's outfit includes a leotard BECAUSE SHE IS A GYMNAST!

Seriously these people would look less idiotic if they would play/watch the media they criticize.
 
Ruin said:
Persona 5 autism incoming. The Phantom thieve's outfits take the form of various aspects of their personalities. Makato's is an outlaw biker outfit because she secretly yearns to operate outside the law in order to seek justice. Futaba's looks like an 80's sci fi Tron like suit because she's an otaku who loves sci fi/fantasy. The new girl's outfit includes a leotard BECAUSE SHE IS A GYMNAST!

Seriously these people would look less idiotic if they would play/watch the media they criticize.
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Hell, if they wanted to edit it, it should just make as much sense. Why a tutu? New girl is copying Joker who is designed like a French dandy.
 
Thexenoclop said:
So yeah BARD is back with another shitty comic
https://bikiniarmorbattledamage.tumblr.com/tagged/comic also does anyone know who is the artist for the elf they use for a site logo
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I hate how strawmanny this comic is. I've never seen ANY fantasy fan get super upset over armor being more accurate to the period. This also fails to take into account that these people want characters to wear heavy armor/ baggy pants in conditions that don't make sense. Many fantasy works that aren't interested in explaining all the functions of armor just do whatever they want because it is a fantasy world. Even the bikini armor they complain about still has a place in the world as long as it's generally accepted as the norm. The rule should be " does this make sense and is the character still endearing?" not "cover her up because MEN".

Have these people ever thought that MAYBE, just MAYBE people have an attachment to these characters, young and old, male and female because they can look past that and enjoy the series for what it is? Don't get me wrong, I hate blatant fanservice as much as the next person, but if it makes sense and the character is perfectly comfortable with it, what's the point? Have these people noticed that their efforts to police FICTIONAL CHARACTERS hasn't changed any young girls perspective of how they feel about their body or prevent some sick pervert from preying on others? The point is normal people make a distinction between fiction and reality. Any outliers should not be counted. Because they are clearly the exception. I've seen these people claim that these types of outfits lead to misogyny, but in reality, life is just more complicated than that.
 
Ruin said:
Persona 5 autism incoming. The Phantom thieve's outfits take the form of various aspects of their personalities. Makato's is an outlaw biker outfit because she secretly yearns to operate outside the law in order to seek justice. Futaba's looks like an 80's sci fi Tron like suit because she's an otaku who loves sci fi/fantasy. The new girl's outfit includes a leotard BECAUSE SHE IS A GYMNAST!

Seriously these people would look less idiotic if they would play/watch the media they criticize.
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Aren't these characters fighting inside of people's dreams as well? So why does it matter if their outfits aren't 1000% realistic when the environment they're in won't be conforming to anything resembling real world physics anyways?

Tanti-Fanti said:
I hate how strawmanny this comic is. I've never seen ANY fantasy fan get super upset over armor being more accurate to the period. This also fails to take into account that these people want characters to wear heavy armor/ baggy pants in conditions that don't make sense. Many fantasy works that aren't interested in explaining all the functions of armor just do whatever they want because it is a fantasy world. Even the bikini armor they complain about still has a place in the world as long as it's generally accepted as the norm. The rule should be " does this make sense and is the character still endearing?" not "cover her up because MEN".

Have these people ever thought that MAYBE, just MAYBE people have an attachment to these characters, young and old, male and female because they can look past that and enjoy the series for what it is? Don't get me wrong, I hate blatant fanservice as much as the next person, but if it makes sense and the character is perfectly comfortable with it, what's the point? Have these people noticed that their efforts to police FICTIONAL CHARACTERS hasn't changed any young girls perspective of how they feel about their body or prevent some sick pervert from preying on others? The point is normal people make a distinction between fiction and reality. Any outliers should not be counted. Because they are clearly the exception. I've seen these people claim that these types of outfits lead to misogyny, but in reality, life is just more complicated than that.
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I think the comic is supposed to be strawmanning people who criticize SJWs who want more female knights and pee-oh-see in what's supposed to be a historical realism setting because they insist those things were totally commonplace everywhere in every era and the white patriarchy just performed a massive cover-up, but then people who defend historical realism also don't mind bikini armor in what's clearly a fantasy setting.

It's still strawmanning mind you, but it's also false equivalence in that they're acting as though the concept of suspension of disbelief is a concrete set of rules and not a sliding scale that works by a case-by-case basis taking into account the particular work of fiction, the presentation, and an internal consistency that doesn't always conform to real life.
 
Tanti-Fanti said:
I hate how strawmanny this comic is. I've never seen ANY fantasy fan get super upset over armor being more accurate to the period. This also fails to take into account that these people want characters to wear heavy armor/ baggy pants in conditions that don't make sense. Many fantasy works that aren't interested in explaining all the functions of armor just do whatever they want because it is a fantasy world. Even the bikini armor they complain about still has a place in the world as long as it's generally accepted as the norm. The rule should be " does this make sense and is the character still endearing?" not "cover her up because MEN".

Have these people ever thought that MAYBE, just MAYBE people have an attachment to these characters, young and old, male and female because they can look past that and enjoy the series for what it is? Don't get me wrong, I hate blatant fanservice as much as the next person, but if it makes sense and the character is perfectly comfortable with it, what's the point? Have these people noticed that their efforts to police FICTIONAL CHARACTERS hasn't changed any young girls perspective of how they feel about their body or prevent some sick pervert from preying on others? The point is normal people make a distinction between fiction and reality. Any outliers should not be counted. Because they are clearly the exception. I've seen these people claim that these types of outfits lead to misogyny, but in reality, life is just more complicated than that.
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It's not criticizing them for more historically accurate armor, it's criticizing them with "If you're okay with Red Sonja's chainmail bra than why do you hate women and minorities being in unlikely settings".......except it's a broken analogy since they themselves want no more tiddy and more black lesbian Muslim queens in 1200s England.
 
Jesus these fags seem like the most unfun wet blankets on the fucking planet, like if they caught me playing Bayonetta, they’d probably respond to me with a “libtard meme” tier lengthy lecture about patriarchy.
 
Thexenoclop said:
So yeah BARD is back with another shitty comic
https://bikiniarmorbattledamage.tumblr.com/tagged/comic also does anyone know who is the artist for the elf they use for a site logo
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> Unironically links Dobbybear.

You know what's sadder than Dobson? Dobson's orbiters.

purpleboy said:
Jesus these fags seem like the most unfun wet blankets on the fucking planet, like if they caught me playing Bayonetta, they’d probably respond to me with a “libtard meme” tier lengthy lecture about patriarchy.
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Link them Senran Kagura or Queen's Blade footage and you could probably kill them outright.
 
purpleboy said:
Jesus these fags seem like the most unfun wet blankets on the fucking planet, like if they caught me playing Bayonetta, they’d probably respond to me with a “libtard meme” tier lengthy lecture about patriarchy.
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Of course. These people genuinely believe that everything is inherently political and simple fun is "problematic".
 
One Man Bland said:
Aren't these characters fighting inside of people's dreams as well? So why does it matter if their outfits aren't 1000% realistic when the environment they're in won't be conforming to anything resembling real world physics anyways?


I think the comic is supposed to be strawmanning people who criticize SJWs who want more female knights and pee-oh-see in what's supposed to be a historical realism setting because they insist those things were totally commonplace everywhere in every era and the white patriarchy just performed a massive cover-up, but then people who defend historical realism also don't mind bikini armor in what's clearly a fantasy setting.

It's still strawmanning mind you, but it's also false equivalence in that they're acting as though the concept of suspension of disbelief is a concrete set of rules and not a sliding scale that works by a case-by-case basis taking into account the particular work of fiction, the presentation, and an internal consistency that doesn't always conform to real life.
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RockVolnutt said:
It's not criticizing them for more historically accurate armor, it's criticizing them with "If you're okay with Red Sonja's chainmail bra than why do you hate women and minorities being in unlikely settings".......except it's a broken analogy since they themselves want no more tiddy and more black lesbian Muslim queens in 1200s England.
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Thanks for clearing it up a bit. I probably misread this a bit. I think that's what they were going for but the message is just so half-assed. The issue I really have as you both mention is how fetishy it comes off as. It's kind of creepy. I also think and agree people should be allowed to complain about historical-inspired media NOT following what they promised viewers. It's like making a cyborg be in WWII (which already sadly happened). Historical fiction/fantasy is one thing, but trying to rewrite history so that racism suddenly didn't exist in the 1950s segregated U.S is ridiculous.

One Man Bland said:
Aren't these characters fighting inside of people's dreams as well? So why does it matter if their outfits aren't 1000% realistic when the environment they're in won't be conforming to anything resembling real world physics anyways?
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They kind of do. It's more of a cognitive state that they journey into someone's mind. It follows a lot of psychological theories that I won't go into but essentially the costumes are supposed to be a reflection of who they want to be and what they want rebel against. And again, Soejima did a fine job. If these people even read anything by the guy he has a strict philosophy on each character, how they are designed, etc. He had an interview in the Persona 4 artbooks that actually highlighted why he gave each character their unique persona. Worth a read.

Too bad many of these people will just blame it all on horny men. Completely ignoring others progress, dedication, and work.
 
Jaimas said:
> Unironically links Dobbybear.

You know what's sadder than Dobson? Dobson's orbiters.



Link them Senran Kagura or Queen's Blade footage and you could probably kill them outright.
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Did nothing but shit on Dragon's Crown for a good while
Jessica Rabbit pin up is all in good fun
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I knew Dobson was a hypocrite but to be this tone deaf.
 
Honestly I'd be more creeped out by Dobson and his worship of lesbians that Tumblr fujoettes picked up than anything from Dragon's Crown, At least George admits he likes his exaggerations.
 
Vault Boy said:
Does he actually hate her, or does he "hate" her as a smokescreen to conceal his true feelings?

I mean, self-proclaimed male feminists often turn out to be pieces of shit behind the image they project, so...
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I'm actually going to go with the latter. He despises her far beyond his capacity to rationalize it.
 
Vault Boy said:
Does he actually hate her, or does he "hate" her as a smokescreen to conceal his true feelings?

I mean, self-proclaimed male feminists often turn out to be pieces of shit behind the image they project, so...
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Not to derail this into a Dobson thread but Quiet isn't his type at all. He's into young girls from children's media engaging in homosexual acts. I'm not directly calling him a pedophile especially since he has the same reactions to older characters like the MCU girls. My view on it is it's just an unfortunate side-effect of the kind of media he consumes due to immaturity and not necessarily an attraction to minors.

Basically Quiet is bad because Metal Gear is an "adult thing" while the strongest stuff Dobby can handle is stories about 5th graders beating comically evil people by the power of friendship.
 
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