Business Big Tech Layoffs Megathread - Techbros... we got too cocky...

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Since my previous thread kinda-sorta turned into a soft megathread, and the tech layoffs will continue until morale improves, I think it's better to group them all together.

For those who want a QRD:


Just this week we've had these going on:

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But it's not just Big Tech, the vidya industry is also cleaning house bigly:

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All in all, rough seas ahead for the techbros.
 
But companies did overhire during Covid times. This isn't a secret.
Okay I'm not disputing that. But this thread is two years old, YouTube and Reddit are full of former tech workers freaking out because they're still struggling to find a job months or years after they got fired, and people are abandoning their careers and years of education to pivot to cashier rolls or organic hydroponic weed-infused lettuce farming. No one else lives like this, bro, and to the rest of us looking in it's complete insanity. Your best case scenario is still a nightmare.
 
As someone not in tech, I just don't understand the tolerance for this position. "No, no, it's not that we're obsolete and being replaced by new technology, it's just that in our industry companies regularly overhire people and then fire them 3-5years later. It's not big deal, you just have to wait until the federal reserve changes interest rates and floods the market with more money, the capital investors will rehire us for another 5 year stint!" Bro WHAT
Keep in mind the people caught up in the old churn overwhelmingly worked email jobs and were probably hired for their DEI attributes to attract more investor capital. They were professional bureaucrats more than anything else, and while plenty of them preferred to stay in tech because it was the new shiny object/they had to do the least amount of work and could focus on their true passions, during the bust part of tech's usual boom/bust cycle they were able to write reports and policy files at any other white collar office locale in industries that weren't so overwhelmingly financialized.

There's a lot of cope that AI is just the latest excuse, but the fact that it's affecting mid-tier developers (the people actually attached to products) alongside all the bullshit gigs is a red flag in the other direction. I'm still bearish on that, though. I don't think American corporate culture can really be reformed, and they'll find a way to fuck up AI implementation and go back to throwing people at the problem.
 
Late reply but my husband got fired from CISCO for unspecified reasons but by the time he was fired he was one of only two white men remaining, the other 27 people were all different flavors of Indian. We both knew his days were numbered when a new Indian would pop up in the group chat each month replacing another non-Indian co-worker.
I'm sorry that happened.

Every time I hear an H1B related story I think of this movie quote:
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This afternoon, we sent the following email to our global team. One of our core values at Cloudflare is transparency, and we believe it's important that you hear this directly from us because it’s a major moment at Cloudflare.
Team:

We are writing to let you know directly that we’ve made the decision to reduce Cloudflare’s workforce by more than 1,100 employees globally.
The way we work at Cloudflare has fundamentally changed. We don’t just build and sell AI tools and platforms. We are our own most demanding customer. Cloudflare’s usage of AI has increased by more than 600% in the last three months alone. Employees across the company from engineering to HR to finance to marketing run thousands of AI agent sessions each day to get their work done. That means we have to be intentional in how we architect our company for the agentic AI era in order to supercharge the value we deliver to our customers and to honor our mission to help build a better Internet for everyone, everywhere.

Today is a hard day. This decision unfortunately means saying goodbye to teammates who have contributed meaningfully to our mission and to building Cloudflare into one of the world’s most successful companies. We want to be clear that this decision is not a reflection of the individual work or talent of those leaving us. Instead, we are reimagining every internal process, team, and role across the company. Today’s actions are not a cost-cutting exercise or an assessment of individuals’ performance; they are about Cloudflare defining how a world-class, high-growth company operates and creates value in the agentic AI era.

This is a moment we need to own as founders and leaders of the company. Matthew has personally sent out every offer letter we've extended. It is a practice he has always looked forward to because it represented our growth and the incredible talent joining our mission. It didn’t feel right for this message to come from anyone other than the two of us. Rather than trickling out notices through managers, we will be sending emails to every employee.

Within the next hour, every member of our global team will receive an email from both of us clarifying how this change affects them. For those departing today, we will send this update to both their personal and Cloudflare addresses to ensure they receive the information immediately.

It’s important to us that we treat departing team members right and in a way that exceeds what we’ve seen from other companies. We believe acting with empathy isn’t about avoiding hard decisions but rather about how you treat people when those decisions are made. If we are asking our team to be world-class, we have a reciprocal obligation to be world-class in how we treat them. We are pairing the directness of these measures with severance packages that lead the industry. The packages for departing employees will include the equivalent of their full base pay through the end of 2026. Healthcare coverage is different across the globe, and if you’re in the United States, we’ll continue to provide support through the end of the year. We are also vesting equity for departing team members through August 15th, so they receive stock beyond their departure date. And, if departing team members haven’t hit their one-year cliffs, we are going to waive those and vest their pro-rated equity through August as well.

We’ve asked the team to do this only once, as hard as that may be today. We don’t want to do it again for the foreseeable future. By taking decisive action now, we provide immediate clarity to those departing and protect the stability of the team that remains. We are making these changes now because making smaller, repeated cuts or dragging a reorganization out over multiple quarters creates prolonged emotional uncertainty for employees and stalls our ability to build. It’s the right thing to do; it’s the honest thing to do; and it reflects the values of the company we are continuing to build.

Cloudflare started as a digitally native company built in the cloud. That allowed us to catch up to and pass companies that had a head start of years or decades but were slowed down by outdated systems and processes. As we’ve now become the leader, we cannot rest on the workflows and organizational structures that worked yesterday. We’re confident that our reshaped organization will be even faster and more innovative as we continue building the future.

To those departing us: you’ve helped build the strong foundation Cloudflare stands on today. We have the utmost respect for your work and gratitude for the impact you have made. We’re confident you will land at other great places and build many future great companies, bringing with you a unique set of skills learned while building Cloudflare.

Transparency is a core principle at Cloudflare, and it was important that you hear this from us first. We will be heading to our earnings conference call at 2 PM PT, when we’ll share more. We also plan to address today’s announcements live with the team at our all-hands meeting.

It’s not an easy day, but it’s the right decision. Our mission to help build a better Internet is more important now than ever, and there’s a lot of work left to be done.
Names attached: Matthew Prince, Michelle Zatlyn
 
There's a lot of cope that AI is just the latest excuse, but the fact that it's affecting mid-tier developers (the people actually attached to products) alongside all the bullshit gigs is a red flag in the other direction. I'm still bearish on that, though. I don't think American corporate culture can really be reformed, and they'll find a way to fuck up AI implementation and go back to throwing people at the problem.
You can throw so many Jeets at your corporate problems
 
But companies did overhire during Covid times. This isn't a secret.
Companies are horrendously bloated, such as middle management and sure DEI hires or too many Indians, but aside from that: no they did not. They would have been perfectly happy utilizing those workers had the money kept flowing or AI didn't happen. The shareholders simply no longer see headcount or even revenue growth as investment growth and so the entire corporate hivemind falls in line accordingly. The bubble has to pop, but until then.

No one else lives like this, bro, and to the rest of us looking in it's complete insanity.
Tech workers can't even defend it anymore, they just look at you like this
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Among the most intelligent and highest earning subset of Americans, yet lack of stability and forcing them back into offices prevents them from buying homes, raising families, etc. They can't pivot to anything else without losing an enormous chunk of their incomes either.
 
Somewhat related:

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"Context rot". Nice ragebait.

Then,

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Really makes you think.
My LinkedIn feed is full of these scam startup CEOs talking about how good their shitty and pointless AI program is, complete with boasts about how they have the real solutions. They will shit talk everybody because it’s all a sales pitch.

Right now companies are excited to use these programs to lay off chunks of their staff so they can give themselves a fat bonus at the end of the year. If these shitty AI tools don’t amount to anything, these CXOs hope they are at another company by the time it implodes. So this type of obnoxious sales pitch gives these people a hard on. Collect profits and bonuses now and point fingers later when it stops working.

My junk email folder gets flooded with these fly by night scams. But our Chief Operating Officer is excited to find out more so they can lay off 10% of staff to meet headcount reduction targets. They can point to AI when it happens and they can point to AI when it fails. Meanwhile the COO doesn’t have to return their multimillion dollar bonuses when their idea fails. So there is literally no incentive to actually think long term, just whatever lines their pocket the fastest.
 
What isn't lost on me is that the fired workers are going to found competitors with there expertise's but that only applies to engineers and designers working in tandom to make it happen.
 
I agree that there will be an increase in demand of consultants who unfuck all the jeet and vibe coding. But that’s going to be for experienced software engineers only. Entry level coders are SOL getting the experience needed.
 
I agree that there will be an increase in demand of consultants who unfuck all the jeet and vibe coding. But that’s going to be for experienced software engineers only. Entry level coders are SOL getting the experience needed.
With any luck, they'll have a separate space, of being the cheap option to write net-new things from places that expect AI or Jeet level costing - without jeets and AI, they'll need to hire someone, and they're not gonna pay the consultants to build 'basic' shit, we can just hire whoever for that, right? What'll change is that an entry leveler won't immediately be entering with a cushy silicon valley salary band. Salary corrections tend to start from the bottom, and tech salaries are pretty fucking inflated. We'll probably see something similar to what happens with generic 'Business' degrees - the average salary will be pretty mid as most of them are just project managers/middle manglement/etc, while the average is stupid high because of outlier execs and directors. You'll have most software devs being paid closer to what you'd expect for the abysmal productivity corporate spaces yield, with a narrow handful being paid massively outsized salaries for actually being specialists.

Ripf the retards still trying to live in silicon valley when salaries drop and rent doesn't, though.
 
Salary corrections tend to start from the bottom, and tech salaries are pretty fucking inflated. We'll probably see something similar to what happens with generic 'Business' degrees - the average salary will be pretty mid as most of them are just project managers/middle manglement/etc, while the average is stupid high because of outlier execs and directors. You'll have most software devs being paid closer to what you'd expect for the abysmal productivity corporate spaces yield, with a narrow handful being paid massively outsized salaries for actually being specialists.
This is already happening, at least for positions outside Silicon Valley. A lot of new intern/junior dev positions are lucky to break 60k (some even 50k), and hell I've seen some senior dev and architect postings with salary bands hovering around 90-100k. It's being masked by the hiring freezes and clamp down on performance review bumps, but there is an ongoing retreat from the free money days.

Another interesting thing on this front is future start-ups may not pay their entry level grunts at all. There's a lot of state/federal government programs subsidizing wages as a means of bootstrapping local industries, with the only requirements usually being to hire students or new grads from local schools and keep their business within their locality. The smarter founders will leverage this to reduce overhead while benefiting from the free PR such programs provide. Furthermore since these programs pay the bare minimum, they will be used as a further means to reduce salaries.
 
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