Business Big Tech Layoffs Megathread - Techbros... we got too cocky...

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Since my previous thread kinda-sorta turned into a soft megathread, and the tech layoffs will continue until morale improves, I think it's better to group them all together.

For those who want a QRD:


Just this week we've had these going on:

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But it's not just Big Tech, the vidya industry is also cleaning house bigly:

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All in all, rough seas ahead for the techbros.
 
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Might be too off-topic but has anyone figured out a use for document databases like mongo or is it still just a database for people who want to store a shit load of retarded, unmanaged data to be dealt with “later”. I think imdb tried a documentdb and they walked it back within a year or two.
 
<3 norafawn said:
Might be too off-topic but has anyone figured out a use for document databases like mongo or is it still just a database for people who want to store a shit load of retarded, unmanaged data to be dealt with “later”. I think imdb tried a documentdb and they walked it back within a year or two.
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Yes. Seen it used as an initial stage for order placements. Initial Sale or cart recorded in Mongo, data moved to real database once everything is locked in. (Purchase orders made, settlement clears, et cetra)

Also used when the business wants some bullshit and nobody wants to fuck with the real tables. Answer becomes have mongo clone from the real db plus new bullshit. Like a hypothetical example would be they want transcripts related to a customer order. You dont want that stuff on your real order management db. So into mongo it goes.
 
<3 norafawn said:
Might be too off-topic but has anyone figured out a use for document databases like mongo or is it still just a database for people who want to store a shit load of retarded, unmanaged data to be dealt with “later”. I think imdb tried a documentdb and they walked it back within a year or two.
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Most real databases nowadays ship a perfectly adequate JSON column type for ad-hoc data shovelling.

You can still use MongoDB if you do enough of it to warrant a second database cluster, or you might just have another cluster of your usual database software dedicated to data slag piles.
 
<3 norafawn said:
Might be too off-topic but has anyone figured out a use for document databases like mongo or is it still just a database for people who want to store a shit load of retarded, unmanaged data to be dealt with “later”. I think imdb tried a documentdb and they walked it back within a year or two.
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They’re exclusively for prototyping and should never actually be used in production, IMO.

People don’t spend anywhere near enough time deciding on a schema. It’s your most consequential design decision, since it’s very hard to do migrations once you have any kind of scale.

Once you have a prototype and a firm idea of what you want your actual project to look like, spend some time learning about database normalization. Remember that adding stuff is easier than taking away, so don’t add a bunch of junk prematurely. Spend a few days going over your schema. Have an LLM look at it but don’t trust your LLM to write it for you (remember, it is trained on jeetcode). Keep trimming away unnecessary shit.

Don’t use mongo in production unless you hate yourself.
 
Rootless Cosmopolitan said:
They’re exclusively for prototyping and should never actually be used in production, IMO.
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Ad hoc data has its place in production because the moment you start to talk to external APIs you are not in control of the schema.

Integrations with external services are a fairly common thing you want to do, and external services can give you excess data you might want to hold onto just in case you want to use it in the future, or they can break the schema without warning and you can store whatever they are sending to you now to parse into your desired schema later.
 
Tealeaf said:
Ad hoc data has its place in production because the moment you start to talk to external APIs you are not in control of the schema.

Integrations with external services are a fairly common thing you want to do, and external services can give you excess data you might want to hold onto just in case you want to use it in the future, or they can break the schema without warning and you can store whatever they are sending to you now to parse into your desired schema later.
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Fair point. I should say that you should never put them in your critical path if you can at all avoid it.
 
OtherLastTrainHome said:
it doesn't matter how much good Trump may do politically when we're still serfs to c-suite jeets and every company constantly laying people off to appease fucking shareholders. none of this is acceptable, and i really don't care if it's someone else's money and they can "do whatever they want with it". in countless ways, this is where the abandonment of God has brought us.
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On some level, people need to wake the fuck up. It takes realistically no skill to stock a shelf or ring up a customer. Teenagers can do the job, and that is always going to be the bottom floor. If you don't have any valuable skill and you aren't working your way towards acquiring one, you are useless to society. This isn't the turn of the century or the middle of World War 2, there is no shortage of people who can do busywork.

This goes for the tech industry as well. Far too many coworkers are fucking useless people who get by on wasting other people's time. They do not take themselves seriously and cannot be relied on but expect others to regard them as top level talent. They are fucking delusional and refuse to look inward. Now other people's money is running out and there is no more room for dead weight.

Companies are in massive debt and are broke. Can't freak out investors by saying that though.
 
Netizennameless said:
On some level, people need to wake the fuck up. It takes realistically no skill to stock a shelf or ring up a customer. Teenagers can do the job, and that is always going to be the bottom floor. If you don't have any valuable skill and you aren't working your way towards acquiring one, you are useless to society. This isn't the turn of the century or the middle of World War 2, there is no shortage of people who can do busywork.

This goes for the tech industry as well. Far too many coworkers are fucking useless people who get by on wasting other people's time. They do not take themselves seriously and cannot be relied on but expect others to regard them as top level talent. They are fucking delusional and refuse to look inward. Now other people's money is running out and there is no more room for dead weight.

Companies are in massive debt and are broke. Can't freak out investors by saying that though.
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Perhaps companies should return to training their own employees.
 
Fagnacious D said:
Perhaps companies should return to training their own employees.
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They would, if they were allowed to hire based on perceived potential, test for intelligence and other attributes that indicates someone can be trained. But they're not allowed to do that, they're required to be legally blind to anything that isn't immediate merit to the job role. If they hire someone who doesn't have the credentials to do the work, with intent of training them, that's opening them to liability for discrimination towards people who applied and had better paper credentials.
 
Kuritan Deplorable said:
They would, if they were allowed to hire based on perceived potential, test for intelligence and other attributes that indicates someone can be trained. But they're not allowed to do that, they're required to be legally blind to anything that isn't immediate merit to the job role. If they hire someone who doesn't have the credentials to do the work, with intent of training them, that's opening them to liability for discrimination towards people who applied and had better paper credentials.
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Yes, exactly. The entire reason anyone has to do leetcode interviews or get a useless bachelors degree in basket weaving to work as a secretary or any of this stupid bullshit is because the Civil Rights Act got reinterpreted in the 1970s as banning IQ testing because black/latino/middle eastern people **on average** score lower than whites/jews/asians.

Never mind the fact that being poor and black and scoring highly on an IQ test used to be a fast track to success, no student debt or wasted time needed.

Never mind that, by the time everyone has finished credentializing, we are getting too old and too in debt to start families.

The whole thing is so fucked up.
 
Fagnacious D said:
Perhaps companies should return to training their own employees.
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Employees quit too often for that to make sense anymore. They simply take the training they get and jump ship to a new job for more money before the investment is ever repaid to the company.

And I know employers broke the social contract first. But this is the world we live in.
 
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