Business Big Tech Layoffs Megathread - Techbros... we got too cocky...

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Since my previous thread kinda-sorta turned into a soft megathread, and the tech layoffs will continue until morale improves, I think it's better to group them all together.

For those who want a QRD:


Just this week we've had these going on:

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But it's not just Big Tech, the vidya industry is also cleaning house bigly:

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All in all, rough seas ahead for the techbros.
 
in practice you're also asking them to take a significant paycut and lifestyle cut. Fab workers are paid pretty damned well, but nowhere close to silicon valley levels.
That’s a reality that laid off Silicon Valley/FAANG workers are going to have to get used to regardless even if they stay in the same industry. Their salaries were grossly overinflated and not sustainable in a real economy. Most of them will be lucky to find a new job that pays them even 80% of what they made before.
 
Not even AWS type stuff is safe... With the grocery thing going south lately, not much of a surprise though.


Amazon said Wednesday it’s cutting hundreds of jobs in its cloud computing unit AWS as part of a strategic shift.
The company will trim “a few hundred roles” in the team that overlooks technology for physical stores, a move that comes just a day after Amazon said it was ditching Just Walk Out technology in its U.S. grocery stores.
 
Not even AWS type stuff is safe... With the grocery thing going south lately, not much of a surprise though.


Amazon said Wednesday it’s cutting hundreds of jobs in its cloud computing unit AWS as part of a strategic shift.
The company will trim “a few hundred roles” in the team that overlooks technology for physical stores, a move that comes just a day after Amazon said it was ditching Just Walk Out technology in its U.S. grocery stores.
That's because Amazon's "Walk Out Technology" was actually just a bunch of Indians doing manual reviews.
 
Many such cases. You have to wonder what the Sega workers were expecting if they ratified. They had to have known that the hammer was going to drop as soon as they started agitating.

I worked maintenance on heavy equipment as a contractor a few years back, and got a contract for a gig up north. Right as I got hired, the Teamsters (a Union known for being the last employer of Jimmy Hoffa) were trying to get the regular employees to vote on organizing. Well, corporate sent down a few guys who sat the employees down and showed them that their facility made up about 3% of the overall profits of the company, and left it at that. Long story short, no Union.
Na, this has been a long time coming. Relic's quality has gone consistently downhill starting with DoW 2, and both Dawn of War 3 and Company of Heroes 3 are piles of steaming feces. Sega cannot be happy with them in the slightest, especially compared to CA which despite their failures with Hyenas and their Total War Saga dreck has a stable money printer with the Warhammer games.
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Steam's asking for $60 for that game, and there's a $17 DLC that adds a couple of battlegroup options and not anything actually new or unique like a complete faction. Lolno.
 
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Na, this has been a long time coming. Relic's quality has gone consistently downhill starting with DoW 2, and both Dawn of War 3 and Company of Heroes 3 are piles of steaming feces.
Yeah :( They're a long way gone from the days of Homeworld. God damn I miss developers like that who could make incredible games like that.
 
Yeah :( They're a long way gone from the days of Homeworld. God damn I miss developers like that who could make incredible games like that.
Nothing tops the intro sequence of Homeworld. Nothing. Adagio for Strings playing as Fleet Command starts the decoupling procedure from the scaffolding is timeless.
 
Nothing tops the intro sequence of Homeworld. Nothing. Adagio for Strings playing as Fleet Command starts the decoupling procedure from the scaffolding is timeless.
The next major event -- Kharak is Burning -- was right up there too.

Hearing Fleet Command announce somberly (after you've collected the survivor pods and bested the straggler fighters): "there's nothing left for us here. Let's go." ... breaks my heart every time.
 
Yeah :( They're a long way gone from the days of Homeworld. God damn I miss developers like that who could make incredible games like that.
I wound up missing the first Homeworld so my first intros to Good Relic were the first Dawn of War and Homeworld 2. Homeworld 2 is still solid despite not being quite as good as Numero Uno and the first Dawn of War has an actual soul to it, unlike the latter games.
 

Possibility Space Closes As Studio Head Effectively Blames Upcoming Article For The Closure

ArenaNet Co-founder Jeff Strain’s new studio, Possibility Space has been closed by founder Jeff Strain, closely following the closure of Strain’s other studio, Crop Circle Games, according to an email sent to employees and sent to Polygon’s Nicole Carpenter. Several (now former) developers at the studio have also begun to report the layoffs on social media.

The news is a quick turn of events following the demise of Crop Circle Games, which was closed at the end of March (with reports of its demise filtering through back in February), with many of its developers claiming they weren’t offered severance in the process.

A week later, Crop Circle Games’ CEO posted a bizarre statement on the company’s website (which has now been removed) trying to clear the air about the studio closure ahead of an anticipated article by Kotaku reporter Ethan Gach. The statement blamed the reason for the studio’s closure on the current state of the games’ industry, stating that the game Crop Circle Games was making was “fundamentally out of touch with emerging player tastes.”

As part of the statement, Annie Strain also disclosed the reasons why she stepped down as CEO as a way to pre-empt any reporting by Gach on the subject.

Fast-forward to today, and it seems Possibility Space is no more. In an email obtained by Polygon reporter Nicole Carpenter, Strain also mentions the upcoming Kotaku article and effectively blames Possibility Space’s workers for the studio's closure.

In the email to employees, Strain comments that while much of Gach’s questioning was “expected,” he was also “stunned” to see information about Possibility Space’s upcoming game, known internally as Project Vonnegut, as well as details about the publishing partner and “confidential all-company meetings.”

“Leaks of this nature are typically malicious and done by outside hacking, so to see internal team members under a confidentiality agreement engage in this was shocking,” Strain writes. As a result, he describes a situation where he flew to the publisher for “in-person meetings” about the breach and where to take things from here.

“During that discussion our partner expressed low confidence they would be willing to invest the additional resources needed to complete the game, so we mutually agreed to cancel Vonnegut,” Strain continued in the email.

As a result, Strain states that, as of the end of today, Possibility Space is being closed. Strain also touches on what this means for both US and non-US workers, as well as whether or not they can even offer severance pay, which Strain mentions will be handled from this point forward through a D.C.-based law firm.

Strain sends off his email by stating that he is stepping away from the games industry entirely now to focus on “family and care for Annie.”

It’s a weird, and by all accounts, a pretty vindictive-reading layoff note from a CEO who once heralded the need for game developers to unionize following the fallout of Blizzard's sexual harassment scandal. This also doesn't touch on the future of Prytania Media, the company formed by Strain and his wife to oversee the four studios under their umbrella, which, by all accounts, two remain, Dawon Entertainment and Fang & Claw. As of this morning, Prytania Media's website no longer works.
It should also be noted that the Kotaku report referenced by both statements has yet to be published.

Never heard of them, nothing of value was lost.
 
It’s a weird, and by all accounts, a pretty vindictive-reading layoff note from a CEO who once heralded the need for game developers to unionize
Not sure why you're acting as if they're mutually exclusive? Its a particularly high level of dickishness to unionize to eke out maximum pay and benefits for minimal work from the company and then still work in the background to fuck with them anyway. Part of the whole implicit deal is that your taking a lot more responsibility and ownership for the company by demanding more power, authority and influence in its operations.

So yea, dudes probably pissed a bit at that little shattering of his worldview of "Developers are good people and need to be treated better" when they're off doing shit like this behind his back.
 
When I was in school they took us on this trip to one of the big tech companies headquarters. They were showing us around this big complex and everywhere there was a arcade machine, air hockey, or whatever useless crap. Not once did I see anyone working, the only work related thing they even mentioned was how their internal version of GitHub worked. We went by all of these offices and everyone was just fucking around. The entire tour was about how they had the best campus, all the work benefits, and the 5 star chefs in the cafeteria(tbh was like the best food I ever had) but nothing useful at all. I'm surprised these companies haven't started struggling sooner.

I kind of feel like a doomer, we have a bunch of companies and services relying on all these useless overvalued tech companies. When they go those smaller companies will, the rich people who work for them will vanish too. And with prices going up I'm wondering if maybe we're gonna get financially fucked because of these hipster faggots.
 
I kind of feel like a doomer, we have a bunch of companies and services relying on all these useless overvalued tech companies. When they go those smaller companies will
This is a solution, not a problem.
Anything that wasn't financially viable collapses, fundamentals matter again, and in the process the market decentralizes and becomes free of cartel gatekeeping.
There will be more jobs, requiring more skills, in the aftermath, rebuilding what is necessary while shedding what is not.

This isn't tech's first rodeo, either.
The silicon that built the PC revolution of the 1990s was actually re-invented from the ground up because the first generation became "lost" due to retirements and other economic factors.
 
This is a solution, not a problem.
Anything that wasn't financially viable collapses, fundamentals matter again, and in the process the market decentralizes and becomes free of cartel gatekeeping.
There will be more jobs, requiring more skills, in the aftermath, rebuilding what is necessary while shedding what is not.
If those jobs haven't been automated or made economically nonviable by government policies. And how much damage and how long is that process going to take. It's not a given that countries will always be able to adapt and remain competitive.
 
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If those jobs haven't been automated or made economically nonviable by government policies.
Automation can only handle a few small repetitive actions to be effective as it is; the more you build on top of it, the more possibilities you open up for errors, especially with the current year level of programmer. And if the powers that be continue to put their fingers on the scale to promote troons, women, and import Indians; we'll never get to the point where the answer to all your problems is an AI box you plug in to your network.
 
When I was in school they took us on this trip to one of the big tech companies headquarters. They were showing us around this big complex and everywhere there was a arcade machine, air hockey, or whatever useless crap. Not once did I see anyone working, the only work related thing they even mentioned was how their internal version of GitHub worked. We went by all of these offices and everyone was just fucking around. The entire tour was about how they had the best campus, all the work benefits, and the 5 star chefs in the cafeteria(tbh was like the best food I ever had) but nothing useful at all. I'm surprised these companies haven't started struggling sooner.

I kind of feel like a doomer, we have a bunch of companies and services relying on all these useless overvalued tech companies. When they go those smaller companies will, the rich people who work for them will vanish too. And with prices going up I'm wondering if maybe we're gonna get financially fucked because of these hipster faggots.

Which big tech company was it? There are some that had a easier work load than others (at least before 2022), but a good number of FAANG tier companies had heavy workload and bad WLB. This varies a lot by team and departments, for example, AWS was horrible, but other less important products usually had a easier time at Amazon. Its definitely not true that a majority of people just fuck around all day in the office, despite what tiktoks want you to believe. Every team and every employee has OKRs and targets to meet, and are subject to PIP when they fail.
Tours like the one you went on are recruitment tools for the company. They show all the fancy toys and benefits so you would want to work there. Stuff like arcade machines, and cafeterias work wonders in fooling new grads and junior employees. It costs the company relatively little to feed employees good food and to buy a pinball machine, but it usually has a bigger effect on hiring than adding a few thousand to the offer.
 
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