UK Big fall in migrant visa applications after changes - BBC reports reality and tries to make it a bad thing

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The number of overseas workers, students and their families applying for visas to come to the UK has fallen by a third over the last 12 months.

The sharp decline follows rule changes, introduced by the Conservative government, which banned most international students and health and social care workers bringing family to the UK.

Provisional figures from the Home Office, external suggest the number of migrants and their family members applying for the visas fell from around 141,000 in July 2023 to 91,000 last month.

There was a particularly big drop in the numbers applying for health and care worker visas which dropped by 80% to 2,900.

The Home Office said it would "ensure we train up our homegrown workforce and address the shortage of skills".

A spokesperson for the department said that immigration brought "many benefits to the UK, but it must be controlled and delivered through a fair system".

Nadra Ahmed, executive co-chairman of the National Care Association said the sector had started to see some staff return home or move to countries with "a less hostile environment around immigration".

Speaking to the BBC's Radio 4 Today programme, she said: "If we had a domestic workforce willing to work then we wouldn’t need these international recruits."

She added it would "take a few years" to build up a domestic workforce and warned that vacancies in the sector could rise to unsustainable levels.

The reduction in international students applying for visas could also hurt universities already facing financial pressures.

The new rules which appear to have caused the steep fall in visa applications was introduced by former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak in a bid to reduce immigration levels down from record highs.

In 2022, legal net migration soared to 764,000, but fell by 10% the following year. The Office for National Statistics says it was "too early to say if this is the start of a downward trend".

In 2021, the immigration rules for care workers had been relaxed to ease recruitment problems following Brexit.

Two years later, then-Home Secretary James Cleverly announced that the government would ban care workers from bringing family dependants to the UK, as part of efforts to reduce net migration numbers.

That came after a previously-announced ban on most overseas students bringing dependents with them.

The government also increased the minimum salary for skilled overseas workers wanting to come to the UK from £26,200 to £38,700.

To qualify as a skilled worker, applicants need to accrue 70 points under the points system introduced in 2020.

Points can be gained in different ways including by having a job offer in a sector with shortages or holding a PhD.

The Migration Observatory think tank said the Home Office's most recent data did not demonstrate any "clear impact" from the higher salary threshold.

The previous government had also proposed raising the salary someone would need to earn to bring family members to the UK from £18,600 to £38,700.

Following a backlash it reduced the threshold to £29,000 and said further increases would be introduced at an unspecified date.

Last month, Home Secretary Yvette Cooper said, external the new Labour government would keep the threshold at £29,000 until a review by the Migration Advisory Committee was completed.
 
They have to get in the "natives don't want to work" angle every time they report this shit. Natives don't want to work because they're paid shit wages and taxed to buggery, then told that they should be grateful for the pittance they're allowed to keep because there are poor people in Africa. The biggest lie we have ever been told is that we're a wealthy nation.
 
29k is all it takes for automatic chain migration? Up from 18k? And it's not even like they're moving into rural low cost of living settings...
 
Nadra Ahmed, executive co-chairman of the National Care Association said the sector had started to see some staff return home or move to countries with "a less hostile environment around immigration".
Foreigner seethes that their open invasion is meeting some resistance.
In other news, bacteria loathes antiseptic.
 
Presenting it as “locals are too lazy to do the jobs” nonsense that Boomers have been preaching is just an admission that they want an entire class of slaves.

Too bad for them that most of the people being brought over are in the UK due to welfare shopping.
 
The reduction in international students applying for visas
funny. students cant bring their families so they stop coming? funny how that scam went on for so long and nobody talked about it. why did nobody think it was suspicious so many college students need to bring their entire family with them just so they can go to university?
 
funny. students cant bring their families so they stop coming? funny how that scam went on for so long and nobody talked about it. why did nobody think it was suspicious so many college students need to bring their entire family with them just so they can go to university?
It really only makes sense for PhD candidates and postdocs. Postdocs in particular are of an age where it's quite reasonable that they have a spouse and small kid. Postdocs also do the overwhelming majority of the actual teaching in UK universities. Perhaps thought should be given to actually paying the backbone of our higher education teaching staff enough to actually qualify to bring a spouse to the country, rather than a bullshit zero hours team-by-term sessional contract.

This won't happen, because the UK university industry works by essentially scamming the postdocs to work for nearly free, scamming the undergraduates to think they will actually be taught by the famous academics whose names are on the courses, and the university itself trousering a vast sum of money from the government and the cashcow international students.

I absolutely fucking hate how the higher educational system in the UK has been debased like this.
 
Seems that the actually good immigration has gone down. All of the productive immigrants have returned to their countries since they're doing better economically (Poland) or they're going somewhere else.

Frankly, if the Spunt thread is any indication, the UK has gotten so bad that not even the Pajeets doctors want to move there anymore. Only endless seas of parasitic Pakis and Somalis.
 
How wonderful. Because its the legal ones that everyone was worried about.
By and large, yes, as a matter of fact. The illegals on boats are only a small portion of the immigration problem. The vast majority of the people currently clogging up hotels across the country are here legally, they're just not fully processed. 1.2 million immigrants came into the country last year, almost all of them from the sub-continent. The 500k that left were almost all from eastern Europe.
 
Proven by the floyd riots and again with the bong riots, governments only respond to riots
 
They have to get in the "natives don't want to work" angle every time they report this shit. Natives don't want to work because they're paid shit wages and taxed to buggery, then told that they should be grateful for the pittance they're allowed to keep because there are poor people in Africa. The biggest lie we have ever been told is that we're a wealthy nation.
Some of the jobs are also either impossible to do if you have any day-to-day responsibilities outside work or they're a borderline scam. Being a picker on a farm is full of that; 12hr (sometimes more, sometimes less) days in the middle of nowhere with no public transport links so you're stuck living on site where the farmer/agent/gangmaster/landowner/whoever can charge you half your pay in boarding fees.
 
Let them come with this one simple trick:

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Some of the jobs are also either impossible to do if you have any day-to-day responsibilities outside work or they're a borderline scam. Being a picker on a farm is full of that; 12hr (sometimes more, sometimes less) days in the middle of nowhere with no public transport links so you're stuck living on site where the farmer/agent/gangmaster/landowner/whoever can charge you half your pay in boarding fees.
True, but on the counter to that, a lot of picker jobs only exist because immigrant labour is cheaper than automation and only operate at such extremes because migrant labourers are much less likely to report illegal working conditions. This is one of the many areas where immigration is used to suppress wages and workers rights. People won't work fruit picking jobs because their competition is from people who are almost literally slaves, employed by corporations who have the tacit sanction of the state, because of their deep and myriad connections within the civil service and the social core of all the major parties.
 
Saying it'll "only take a few years" to fix something by reversing a single policy isn't the own you think it is.... it only makes me realize we'd have it today if we'd started a mere couple years ago....
 
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