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The personal savings rate is near seventeen-year lows. Credit card debt is at record levels. Millions of prime-age workers have quit the job market, and full-time employment continues to wither. On the other hand, the Biden Administration wants you to think things have never been better.

Last week, following the release of December's jobs data by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Biden crowed that “Real wages are up in recent months ... and we are seeing welcome signs that inflation is coming down as well." Biden concluded by saying "it's a good time to be a worker in America."

Unfortunately, things aren't nearly as good as the White House and its accomplices in the corporate media would have us believe.

It's only a "good time" to be a worker in America if one equates falling real wages and falling full-time employment with "robust" employment conditions.

Moreover, the numbers that the administration continued to cherry-pick to burnish its political image are themselves quite suspect. Response rates to employment surveys sent out by the BLS have gone into steep decline, and the Philadelphia Federal Reserve has recently accused the BLS of vastly overstating employment growth in 2022.

A more sober look at broader economic trends continues to point toward economic pain in 2023, and there is less reason than ever to think that the Federal Reserve will engineer a fabled "soft landing" for the economy after years of record-breaking monetary inflation.

Falling Real Wages, Falling Full-Time Employment​

In spite of what Biden may say, real wages in the United States fell, year-over-year from April 2021 to November 2022. That's likely to also be the case for December once we get the inflation growth numbers for December. Put another way, wages are falling in real terms because the inflation rate has been outpacing wage growth during all that time. Nominal wage growth actually slowed in December according to the new BLS numbers, so unless the inflation rate suddenly collapsed to below 4.5 percent in December—which is unlikely—we will find that real wages fell in December for the twenty-first month in a row.

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Another factor pointing to weakness in job markets is the fact that the number of full-time workers fell in December. Nearly all of the gains in workers were part time.

Specifically, full-time employees dropped by 1,000 workers while part-time workers rose by 679,000 (month-over-month). The total gain in all workers for the period was 717,000. Moreover, the overall trend since 2021 is one in which growth in full-time work in general is falling—and turning negative in some months—while part-time employment represents most of the growth.

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What does this mean overall? David Rosenberg summed it up in a recent tweet, these are jobs "gains" characterized by part-timers, side giggers, and multiple job holders:

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An important aspect of the "household survey" Rosenberg mentions is that it considers part-time workers and barely-employed self-employed people as among the "employed" on a par with full-time workers. Yet, when we consider the reality of slowing wages combined with a lack of growth in full-time workers, one suspects that the employment situation isn't exactly lucrative for a great many workers. There is also good reason to believe that many workers who are now taking on part-time work are doing so because the cost of living has increased substantially. For example, over the past year, the average hourly wage increased 4.6 percent while CPI prices rose 6.4 percent. Workers are falling behind, and it's hard to square this with Biden's claim that workers are doing unusually well.

Stagnant Labor Force Participation​

Another reason to suspect the labor market isn't as great as we're being told is the fact that total prime-age (i.e., age 25-49) workers are hardly flocking to join the labor force. People leaving the work force could be a sign of a very robust economy, of course, as people can scale back working hours when real wages surge. But its extremely unlikely that's what's happening in our current period of rising costs, falling wages, and rising debt.

In fact, the number of prime-age workers "not in the labor force" is still up from where it was before the covid panic of 2020. In January 2020, about 21.3 million workers labeled themselves "not in the labor force." That is, these people reported not working for market income at all during the previous year. As of December, the number had risen to 22.2 million. Since the Great Recession began in late 2007, the number of workers not in the labor force is up by more than a million. Biden may think it's a great time to be a worker in America, but apparently many prime-age workers don't agree.

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This all reflect a larger historical trend in which workforce participation has fallen, with men especially prone to leaving the work force. This all helps to push down the unemployment rate as the pool of potential unemployed workers continues to shrink.

"Jobs" vs. Employed People​

But why is it that we keep hearing about how there is so much job growth? Those "good" numbers are based mostly on a separate job survey which looks only at the number of jobs created, as opposed to the number of employed persons. This means a large number of part-time jobs could be created, with few new employed persons, and this could be reported as robust job growth. In fact, in terms of cumulative employment growth since January 2021, we find a persistent gap between the two surveys. This gap narrowed in December 2022, but, as noted above, this was mostly driven by part-time work. In every month since April 2022, this unexplained gap between employed persons and "new jobs" has ranged from 96,000 up to 1.8 million:

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This gap could theoretically be explained by a rising number of multiple job holders, but it seems this need not explain all of the gap, as it seems the establishment survey has been overestimating job growth considerably. According to a new report released by the Philadelphia Federal Reserve the total number of new jobs added during the second quarter was closer to 11,000 than the 1.1 million that the establishment survey had shown. This doesn't tell us much about the second half of the year, of course, but it does suggests there's something very wrong with the survey that's been repeatedly used to "prove" the job market is excellent.

The iffy numbers might have something to do with declining response rates to the BLS's surveys. Since the covid panic, the surveys used to collect this data have seen sizable drops in response rates. The establishment survey (CES) response rate has fallen from 59 percent in early 2020 to 45 percent today. The "JOLTS" survey, which produces many rosy estimates about job openings, has fallen to a 30-percent response rate since 2020. In contrast, the Household Survey (CPS) still has a response rate over 70 percent.

Without parsing the data sources, it's impossible to guess how much the establishment survey's narrowing data sources are affecting the numbers. In any case, the establishment survey is increasingly delivering estimates that appear questionable given larger economic indicators. The "good" employment data still leaves us wondering why the savings rate is falling and why disposable income is below trend. Why is credit card debt mounting if households are enjoying the fruits of a "strong" labor market?

The writers of Biden's press releases offer us no answers. Once we take a broader view, however, the numbers point to recession and declining fortunes for a great many of America's workers. In November, the money supply actually fell, continuing a trend of rapidly falling money-supply growth. That's a strong recession signal. An even more reliable recession signal is the yield curve showing the 3-month/10-year yield spread. When this goes negative, a recession has been assured in every case for decades. This spread is now the deepest in negative territory it's been in more than 40 years.

Misplaced Trust in the Federal Reserve​

At this point, Wall Street and the regime are both banking on the hope that the Federal Reserve will engineer a "soft landing" through its monetary policy. The idea here is that the Fed will somehow figure out how to allow interest rates to rise just the perfect amount to rein in inflation while also not triggering a recession. This is hope based on fantasies, however. It's entirely possible a recession may somehow be averted this year or next, but if that occurs, we hardly have any reason to assume the Federal Reserve planned it all. After all, the Fed has made it abundantly clear in the past two years that it has absolutely no special insights when it comes to economic trends or how monetary inflation will affect the economy. After record breaking amounts of monetary inflation in 2020 and 2021, Fed economists were still insisting that price inflation would be no problem and would be "transitory." Numerous Fed economists from Neel Kashkari to Jerome Powell continued to state that the Fed should keep interest rates low well into 2022, or even into 2023.

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By the end of 2021, however, it was clear the Fed has been very wrong about price inflation and was forced to raise rates and promise monetary tightening. Now, they continue to insist they can do so without triggering a recession. The Fed also continued to insist it has no data predicting a recession. This is just par for the course for the Fed which has always predicted good economic times even when the country is in recession. Ben Bernanke, for example, was still denying there would be any recession at all in 2008, even after the US had been in recession for months.

In other words, the Fed is winging it, and the data points to both anemic jobs data and a stagnating economy. The Fed has given us every reason to believe it doesn't even know what's going on, and we certainly should not assume it has a secret plan to assure a robust economy into the future
 
As if this administration lying about economic data points is a new thing:


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Eggs are eight dollars a fucking carton. Everyone that isn't a paid propagandist for an increasingly cruel and aloof regime has been saying the economy is shit.
 
Of course he is lying. They all lie. Even Trump cherry picked what he said about the economy. Though in Trumps case he was new to politics and government service. He also legitimately wanted to fix the economy but faced never before seen levels of obstruction from Republicans and Democrats. Remember, it was the Republicans that were stopping Trump from getting anything done especially when it came to trade and economics. In his first few years Paul Ryan and the rest of the GOP old guard establishment were playing the resister game as well. I don't blame Trump for the economy being not so great when he was president. He didn't spend decades screwing the country over. Matter of fact Trump was speaking out against US trade policies around the same time Ross Perot was.

Remember when Bush was in office especially in his second term? What did he say? Americans that want to work have jobs. Implying that all the people that were unemployed under his presidency were just lazy. Things were bad then and they are just getting worse. Obama told people to go start a business like that's something that can be easily done by the vast majority of the population when they can't even afford it. Even if you did who the hell are you going to do business with when everyone is unemployed and broke?

It's been going on for 20+ years now. They all lie and cover up how bad the economy really is, and the media helps them. When the Republicans are in office they lie and tell you the economy is great and when the Democrats are in power, they do the same. If you want to know what the truth is just listen to what the party out of power is saying about the economy. That's about the only time you will hear the truth. Then the party in power will say they are lying.

I remember back in the late 2000's with Bush's last few years in office and when Obama became president in 2008. When the "great recession" started. I was listening to a lot of alternative media about what was going on. There was a guy named Gerald Celente who would talk about ghost malls. What is known as dead malls these days. He used to talk about a site called shadow government statistics that would show the real numbers about the economy. Back then it was about 20-22% unemployment.

They cook the books with the unemployment numbers. Everyone knows that. They only count people who are still collecting unemployment benefits. They don't count the people who are unemployed still but aren't getting benefits. Our unemployment has never been whatever number they are pulling out of their ass and telling the public about. It's always been way higher than that. Whatever they say the number is just add a lot more to it. They don't count the underemployed either. They also count seasonal work in the numbers as well. Like people who work in what's known as pop up shops. Like a place that opens to just sell stuff for a holiday like a Halloween store.

Biden is just taking the US back to the way it was when Bush and Obama were president. That's all they wanted from him. You can look at what's going on and see that's exactly what is happening. Whatever little Trump got done Biden spent his time rolling it all back. Making the economy even worse than when the nigger was president. In some ways Biden is worse. At least nigger bammy knew not to screw with the oil and gas. Biden couldn't leave it alone. Obammy didn't have the inflation levels Biden has caused. One of the things that caused the great recession was private debt held by the population. Here we are again with people back in debt to credit companies but this time it's not to buy consumer goods but food. It's like these people learned nothing from watching the Boomers and older Gen X stuggle with debt in the 2000's and 2010's.

What's going on now does remind me a lot of what was happening back then. Not in a good way though. It's not fun nostalgia.

It makes me want to dig through my old economic videos on YouTube. Well, the ones that are left.


Shadow Government Statistics is still around. If you want the real numbers go here.


Our real unemployment is about 25%. During the China virus it was about 35%. It dropped down to 25%.
 
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Seen lots of articles criticizing Biden lately, this and the leaving documents at his house or whatever. What are the chances they're looking to kick him out soon? Time to rally the guilty white progressives into voting. "You wouldn't let the first black woman president be a half term president would you? That would make you a misogynistic racist!"
 
Most major financial institutions are predicting lots of nations to slide into recession in 2023. I believe the World Bank estimate 1 in 3 countries but some are saying it will as high as 50% of nations. Expect more cherry picked stats, changing definitions and gaslighting. Adam Curtis was 100% correct when he said those in power have been living in a make believe world and its steadily being torn down. There will be a global recession and current politicians are not equipped to deal with it or the consequences.
 
Seen lots of articles criticizing Biden lately, this and the leaving documents at his house or whatever. What are the chances they're looking to kick him out soon? Time to rally the guilty white progressives into voting. "You wouldn't let the first black woman president be a half term president would you? That would make you a misogynistic racist!"
It's mises.org, nobody gives a shit what they say.

The cool people who run things think the way you fix economic problems is by slashing interest rates, forcing people to liquidate their savings, and driving debt to the moon. Well, that's what the people with PhDs in economics think. Below that tier in government, you get brilliant ideas like, "let's buy up all the used cars and destroy them!"
 
It's not so much trying to evict the resident sniffer in the White House as much as it being a suitable time to start revealing the obvious. The job numbers nonsense has been going on since early 2022, but it was an election year so guaranteed the Biden admin had the establishment survey concoct favourable numbers out of thin air. Now, however, it's an off year with a Republican House so much easier pulling back the curtain, talking about what everyone knows is going on, and then pinning the blame on the Republicans for refusing to help the Dems provide to the people.

The fallout is not going to be pretty though; job growth down entirely to part-time work and multiple job holders is a sign of serious problems and a (at best) flatlining economy. Just a question of what forces official recognition that we're actually in a recession.
 
Of course he is lying. They all lie. Even Trump cherry picked what he said about the economy. Though in Trumps case he was new to politics and government service. He also legitimately wanted to fix the economy but faced never before seen levels of obstruction from Republicans and Democrats. Remember, it was the Republicans that were stopping Trump from getting anything done especially when it came to trade and economics. In his first few years Paul Ryan and the rest of the GOP old guard establishment were playing the resister game as well. I don't blame Trump for the economy being not so great when he was president. He didn't spend decades screwing the country over. Matter of fact Trump was speaking out against US trade policies around the same time Ross Perot was.

Remember when Bush was in office especially in his second term? What did he say? Americans that want to work have jobs. Implying that all the people that were unemployed under his presidency were just lazy. Things were bad then and they are just getting worse. Obama told people to go start a business like that's something that can be easily done by the vast majority of the population when they can't even afford it. Even if you did who the hell are you going to do business with when everyone is unemployed and broke?

It's been going on for 20+ years now. They all lie and cover up how bad the economy really is, and the media helps them. When the Republicans are in office they lie and tell you the economy is great and when the Democrats are in power, they do the same. If you want to know what the truth is just listen to what the party out of power is saying about the economy. That's about the only time you will hear the truth. Then the party in power will say they are lying.

I remember back in the late 2000's with Bush's last few years in office and when Obama became president in 2008. When the "great recession" started. I was listening to a lot of alternative media about what was going on. There was a guy named Gerald Celente who would talk about ghost malls. What is known as dead malls these days. He used to talk about a site called shadow government statistics that would show the real numbers about the economy. Back then it was about 20-22% unemployment.

They cook the books with the unemployment numbers. Everyone knows that. They only count people who are still collecting unemployment benefits. They don't count the people who are unemployed still but aren't getting benefits. Our unemployment has never been whatever number they are pulling out of their ass and telling the public about. It's always been way higher than that. Whatever they say the number is just add a lot more to it. They don't count the underemployed either. They also count seasonal work in the numbers as well. Like people who work in what's known as pop up shops. Like a place that opens to just sell stuff for a holiday like a Halloween store.

Biden is just taking the US back to the way it was when Bush and Obama were president. That's all they wanted from him. You can look at what's going on and see that's exactly what is happening. Whatever little Trump got done Biden spent his time rolling it all back. Making the economy even worse than when the nigger was president. In some ways Biden is worse. At least nigger bammy knew not to screw with the oil and gas. Biden couldn't leave it alone. Obammy didn't have the inflation levels Biden has caused. One of the things that caused the great recession was private debt held by the population. Here we are again with people back in debt to credit companies but this time it's not to buy consumer goods but food. It's like these people learned nothing from watching the Boomers and older Gen X stuggle with debt in the 2000's and 2010's.

What's going on now does remind me a lot of what was happening back then. Not in a good way though. It's not fun nostalgia.

It makes me want to dig through my old economic videos on YouTube. Well, the ones that are left.


Shadow Government Statistics is still around. If you want the real numbers go here.


Our real unemployment is about 25%. During the China virus it was about 35%. It dropped down to 25%.
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Is only having 26 weeks of dole money one of the reasons for such high rates of homelessness in America
 
Of course he is lying. They all lie. Even Trump cherry picked what he said about the economy. Though in Trumps case he was new to politics and government service. He also legitimately wanted to fix the economy but faced never before seen levels of obstruction from Republicans and Democrats. Remember, it was the Republicans that were stopping Trump from getting anything done especially when it came to trade and economics. In his first few years Paul Ryan and the rest of the GOP old guard establishment were playing the resister game as well. I don't blame Trump for the economy being not so great when he was president. He didn't spend decades screwing the country over. Matter of fact Trump was speaking out against US trade policies around the same time Ross Perot was.

Remember when Bush was in office especially in his second term? What did he say? Americans that want to work have jobs. Implying that all the people that were unemployed under his presidency were just lazy. Things were bad then and they are just getting worse. Obama told people to go start a business like that's something that can be easily done by the vast majority of the population when they can't even afford it. Even if you did who the hell are you going to do business with when everyone is unemployed and broke?

It's been going on for 20+ years now. They all lie and cover up how bad the economy really is, and the media helps them. When the Republicans are in office they lie and tell you the economy is great and when the Democrats are in power, they do the same. If you want to know what the truth is just listen to what the party out of power is saying about the economy. That's about the only time you will hear the truth. Then the party in power will say they are lying.

I remember back in the late 2000's with Bush's last few years in office and when Obama became president in 2008. When the "great recession" started. I was listening to a lot of alternative media about what was going on. There was a guy named Gerald Celente who would talk about ghost malls. What is known as dead malls these days. He used to talk about a site called shadow government statistics that would show the real numbers about the economy. Back then it was about 20-22% unemployment.

They cook the books with the unemployment numbers. Everyone knows that. They only count people who are still collecting unemployment benefits. They don't count the people who are unemployed still but aren't getting benefits. Our unemployment has never been whatever number they are pulling out of their ass and telling the public about. It's always been way higher than that. Whatever they say the number is just add a lot more to it. They don't count the underemployed either. They also count seasonal work in the numbers as well. Like people who work in what's known as pop up shops. Like a place that opens to just sell stuff for a holiday like a Halloween store.

Biden is just taking the US back to the way it was when Bush and Obama were president. That's all they wanted from him. You can look at what's going on and see that's exactly what is happening. Whatever little Trump got done Biden spent his time rolling it all back. Making the economy even worse than when the nigger was president. In some ways Biden is worse. At least nigger bammy knew not to screw with the oil and gas. Biden couldn't leave it alone. Obammy didn't have the inflation levels Biden has caused. One of the things that caused the great recession was private debt held by the population. Here we are again with people back in debt to credit companies but this time it's not to buy consumer goods but food. It's like these people learned nothing from watching the Boomers and older Gen X stuggle with debt in the 2000's and 2010's.

What's going on now does remind me a lot of what was happening back then. Not in a good way though. It's not fun nostalgia.

It makes me want to dig through my old economic videos on YouTube. Well, the ones that are left.


Shadow Government Statistics is still around. If you want the real numbers go here.


Our real unemployment is about 25%. During the China virus it was about 35%. It dropped down to 25%.
One of the most important statistics out there regarding unemployment that still gets published is the labor participation rate. It crashed around 2008 and never recovered since. There’s just a mass of unemployed people.

I remember during the Obama era, there were a number of articles published that demonstrated that most people who ran out of unemployment would then apply for disability. They’d get disability payments, EBT, free sail foam, and other gibs which wasn’t much but just enough to keep a roof over your head and then the ironically named “Earned Income Tax Credit” if you wanted a new TV or PlayStation. This is how a couple dozen million Americans live. There’s no way it’s sustainable but as long as the Federal Reserve/Modern Monetary Theory can keep printing trillions, there will be more people who will be living that “lifestyle.”
 
What's the real statistic of our unemploment data, it has to be about a third because I don't see how we have in any way recovered from 2008
 
Seen lots of articles criticizing Biden lately, this and the leaving documents at his house or whatever. What are the chances they're looking to kick him out soon? Time to rally the guilty white progressives into voting. "You wouldn't let the first black woman president be a half term president would you? That would make you a misogynistic racist!"
I think they will run Biden again. They don't have any alternative. At least none that are any better. Biden managed to get votes because he wasn't Hillary. Hillary was really hated by the population in 2016 just like she was in 2008. If they run someone else other than Biden it could lead to all the idiots thinking "it's not Biden so things will be better this time". It would reduce Trumps chances of winning in 2024. Biden is just as unpopular as Hillary now if not more. If they run Biden again it will cause millions and millions of potential democrat voters to stay home. It would definitely upset any election fraud plans they might have.

They won't know exactly how many ballots they will need. I am not saying Biden legitimately won but so many Bomers and Boomer tier types go around saying Biden didn't get votes which isn't true. Biden did get votes he got more than he should have but he did get them. We don't choose presidents based on popular vote but by an electoral college. On election night in 2020 it was just 5 states and about 100,000 votes between them that caused the election to go in Bidens favor through fraud. Having a bunch of people stay home would screw up their plans. I am sure they will use the 2020 turnout numbers. The Democrats running Biden would be a huge boost to Trumps 2024 chances.
Most major financial institutions are predicting lots of nations to slide into recession in 2023. I believe the World Bank estimate 1 in 3 countries but some are saying it will as high as 50% of nations. Expect more cherry picked stats, changing definitions and gaslighting. Adam Curtis was 100% correct when he said those in power have been living in a make believe world and its steadily being torn down. There will be a global recession and current politicians are not equipped to deal with it or the consequences.
We are already in a recession they just won't admit it. They are just changing the definition of a recession. But we are in one. Is it as bad as the "Great Recession"? No. But it can get that bad and probably will. Most likely it will some time this year. Then they will have no choice but to admit it.
No. Welfare usually doesn't cover much housing if any at all. For white Americans at least and especially white males. We don't consider unemployment here to be welfare or the dole because you work and pay into that over here.
What's the real statistic of our unemploment data, it has to be about a third because I don't see how we have in any way recovered from 2008
You find real unemployment numbers here.

The chart goes back to 1996 and back then the unemployment was 15%. We haven't had unemployment at 5 6 or 7% since then. Not even once. In the mid and late 2000's it was in the mid teens and mid 20's. It's at 25% now. So yeah about 1/3 or so of the US working age population is unemployed. 1 in 10 men ages 25-50 have dropped out of the work force completely. Before it used to be like 1 in 50.
 
Most major financial institutions are predicting lots of nations to slide into recession in 2023. I believe the World Bank estimate 1 in 3 countries but some are saying it will as high as 50% of nations. Expect more cherry picked stats, changing definitions and gaslighting. Adam Curtis was 100% correct when he said those in power have been living in a make believe world and its steadily being torn down. There will be a global recession and current politicians are not equipped to deal with it or the consequences.
Recession? It's not going to be a recession, it's going to be a flat-out depression. They just barely managed delay the worse effects of the Great Recession (which was also technically a depression) but it's absolutely going to fucking explode in everyone's faces in the next few years.
 
Recession? It's not going to be a recession, it's going to be a flat-out depression. They just barely managed delay the worse effects of the Great Recession (which was also technically a depression) but it's absolutely going to fucking explode in everyone's faces in the next few years.
Strictly speaking, it's up to the govt to decide if they turn a recession into a depression (which tends to happen most of the time)
 
I remember months ago Biden touting like 300k new jobs or whatever, and of that 300k over 200k were either part time work or someone taking a second job because they couldn't make ends meet. Or the whopper of telling people prior to mid terms they created a million jobs when in reality it was 10k.
 
What's the real statistic of our unemploment data, it has to be about a third because I don't see how we have in any way recovered from 2008
Nobody recovered from 2008 at least not meaningfully. Quantitative Easing was a joke that overwhelmingly benefitted the richest with an estimated 40% of wealth by QE going to the top 5%. How do you think Blackrock got big?
 
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