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[30+GameOvers]

It's like CoD:Ghosts all over again with America facing off against the Federation Pax Armata.

Singleplayer campaign possibly to include dropping guys into a flooded river, your dad dying and a cliffhanger that is never resolved.

At least Feds made sense in that setting, I don't see a world where France is ever a threat to anybody, or where Ukraine can scare anyone other than the odd Russian.
I find it funny that we went from Russia being the bad guy in every military shooter to being unpersoned the moment they actually go to war IRL, as if this wasn't the very thing people were expecting them to do all along.

There's alleged leaked gameplay out there, likely "leaked" by EA to see how people react to it and / or to drum up talk as part of some gay guerilla marketing.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OC0l4EVtGbQhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=wKs8LgvFrME

This literally just looks like the nu MW games or that new chink spyware Delta Force game. Zero identity of it's own, at least when you saw footage of Battlefield 3/4 you knew it was Battlefield.
DOA garbage, it might only get a bit of activity if COD shits the bed again(which it always does lately).

 

[Kane Lives]

Its 100% this. Didnt you know its 2025 and its bigoted to shoot brown people in your vidya? China and russia are out to appeal to the global audience. Which is why they have to pretty much event a COBRA faction from GI Joe for NATO to fight.

I like how India isn't even a consideration.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

There's alleged leaked gameplay out there, likely "leaked" by EA to see how people react to it and / or to drum up talk as part of some gay guerilla marketing.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OC0l4EVtGbQhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=wKs8LgvFrME

Honestly considering the fact Battlefield is in the worst state out of the three major console FPS, it’s common sense to gauge public opinion even from the most critical people, for all their faults Call of Duty and Halo still have fun core gameplay which was something Battlefield 2042 struggled with big time, the fact that they are at having a playlist where weapon types are locked to classes shows they are at least somewhat listening still its EA so I doubt public opinion will be that good for whatever reasons when the game launches.

 

[iceteayo]

MW4 ate it's lunch by basically turning Ground War into Battlefield's conquest mode, so of course they want a little payback. Now is the perfect time, the tables have turned and it's now COD that is the ugly duckling of FPS world, nobody likes it.

>The Tables have turned Cold War is god awful the Ball is in Battlefield Vs hands
>The Tables have turned Vanguard is god awful the Ball is in Battlefield 2042s hands

Brother Id love for it to be good but cmon, they had easy layups in the past and utterly fucked them up

Honestly considering the fact Battlefield is in the worst state out of the three major console FPS, it’s common sense to gauge public opinion even from the most critical people, for all their faults Call of Duty and Halo still have fun core gameplay which was something Battlefield 2042 struggled with big time, the fact that they are at having a playlist where weapon types are locked to classes shows they are at least somewhat listening still its EA so I doubt public opinion will be that good for whatever reasons when the game launches.

Battlefield 6 also to mean just kind of looks like its trying to ape Modern Warfare 2019 (I like 2019 so its good) yet BF fanboys still act like they are above COD. However, I think the gameplay looks good and I wanna play it the issue I think there is something they are hiding that when revealed will make people dislike it. For example, the beta has 2 playlists for unlocked or locked weapons for the classes my worst fear is they place the lock weapon playlist behind garbage UI, say unlocked weapons, and act like the community did it. Other issues include Server Browser which is gone I bet, how much content they will hold off before launch becasue of their live service crap, and will the BR be so popular it ends up hurting the main game.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

I like how India isn't even a consideration.

Their medic kits are gonna be packs of cow dung.

 

[Powerhouse of the Cell]

I think another part of the reason why these FPS shooter storylines suck is because of the fact that they are running out of ideas after trying many of them.
WW2 and the Cold War have been milked dry back in the 2000s early 2010s.

If these companies were smart, they would do some kind of alternate history of universe scenario where the cold war goes hot.
Or maybe focus on the later years of the cold war like the Soviet-Afghan war or the Falklands war.

If they even want to go braver, focus on recent wars, like the war against ISIS that was prominent in the early 2000s, maybe it might be too early but if you're already running out of ideas and cannot think to make other storylines that take place in wars nobody else has done before, where else are you gonna do it?

 

[Hugbox Kommissar]

I think another part of the reason why these FPS shooter storylines suck is because of the fact that they are running out of ideas after trying many of them.
WW2 and the Cold War have been milked dry back in the 2000s early 2010s.

If these companies were smart, they would do some kind of alternate history of universe scenario where the cold war goes hot.
Or maybe focus on the later years of the cold war like the Soviet-Afghan war or the Falklands war.

If they even want to go braver, focus on recent wars, like the war against ISIS that was prominent in the early 2000s, maybe it might be too early but if you're already running out of ideas and cannot think to make other storylines that take place in wars nobody else has done before, where else are you gonna do it?

See that's what I thought they were going to do with BF 2042 with the whole "nopat" thing. The era of the nation state is over, time for a bunch of stateless yourguys to run around with. Instead they made a gay hero shooter.

 

[Powerhouse of the Cell]

See that's what I thought they were going to do with BF 2042 with the whole "nopat" thing. The era of the nation state is over, time for a bunch of stateless yourguys to run around with. Instead they made a gay hero shooter.

The main reason they went with that storyline was to avoid portraying factions as much as possible having to wear the same types of gear and not being able to push cosmetics like the gay hero shooters that predominate the FPS scene nowadays.

The idea was kinda novel but it was always going to end in disaster when you realize that the reason why they went with the whole stateless people storyline was so they don't have to dedicate having their character models fall in line with the aesthetic of a country in a faction to push shitty cosmetics like they are an overwatch game.

It's a massive shame because I feel like if they had played their cards right, they could have made the storyline that they had work, everyone actually loved the intro for battlefield 2042 and the cinematic featuring Irish and Pac for the promotion of the game.

Lots of people seemed to be intrigued with the storyline more than the people that actually made it themselves.

 

[SandyCat]

Call me old school but I miss when they didn't bother with campaigns that just served as a massive waste of resources to make what amounts to mediocre campaigns most people will forget and even more won't play. I'd rather they invest those resources into the multiplayer gameplay

Especially these days where every campaign is the same diverse token minority and don't need no man girl boss duo taking on generic evil old white man villain which is almost always a basic boring plot, brain dead AI and overly cinematic on rails heavily scripted game play with no substance. I just described 95% of every first person shooter campaign released in the past decade

 

[30+GameOvers]

>The Tables have turned Cold War is god awful the Ball is in Battlefield Vs hands
>The Tables have turned Vanguard is god awful the Ball is in Battlefield 2042s hands

Brother Id love for it to be good but cmon, they had easy layups in the past and utterly fucked them up

Absolutely nobody ever said Battlefield 5 was going to be better than cope war, and Vanguard was such a piece of shit that Battlefield 2042 genuinely looked like a better option at first. Black Ops 7 is going to be an AI generated nightmare with the world's worst skins and as of late, invasive spying via AI and a shifty program that doesn't close when you exit the game + overbearing jannies that are currently permabanning 20+ year old activision accounts for not spinning their hamster wheel fast enough. Battlefield is going to have to fuck up to a legendary degree this year to lose to COD.

 

[The Last Stand]

>The Tables have turned Cold War is god awful the Ball is in Battlefield Vs hands
>The Tables have turned Vanguard is god awful the Ball is in Battlefield 2042s hands

Brother Id love for it to be good but cmon, they had easy layups in the past and utterly fucked them up

Firstly, Battlefield V was indirectly competing with Black Ops 4. Cold War came out two years later. Both Battlefield V and Black Ops 4 underperformed in respect to their franchise history and publisher expectations.

Secondly, I do not see Battlefield as a direct competitor to Call of Duty. Call of Duty is a yearly franchise; that's an uphill battle because CoD is a juggernaut brand that counts on frequency. I'm sure there's an overlap between each fanbase, but people buy Battlefield for large-scale, authentic battles. Battlefield doesn't need to compete with Call of Duty to be successful, see Battlefield 3, 1, and the Bad Company sub-series. It needs to do what it does best.

 

[Spaced Outside Cargo]

I cant wait to not play Battlefield 6 because EA still can’t figure out anticheat on linux.
I get that it’s only 4% of the steam userbase but Battlefield is played by autistic men so the linux user percentage for battlefield games has to be like 10% at least

 

[SandyCat]

More gameplay is dropping

It looks more grounded than 2042 by far but who knows if it will stay that way by the time it launches.

 

[Thiletonomics]

It's a massive shame because I feel like if they had played their cards right, they could have made the storyline that they had work, everyone actually loved the intro for battlefield 2042 and the cinematic featuring Irish and Pac for the promotion of the game.

I do wonder if they were planning to stay on this storyline, but they had to pivot because Irish's voice and face model, Michael K. Williams, died from a drug overdose shortly before BF2042's release. Or were they going to pivot away from him as part of the plan?

 

[MrJokerRager]

Its 100% this. Didnt you know its 2025 and its bigoted to shoot brown people in your vidya? China and russia are out to appeal to the global audience. Which is why they have to pretty much event a COBRA faction from GI Joe for NATO to fight.

Is it really at this point?

No matter what people's views are on Israel and Palestine.

Its a bunch of browns getting blown up and the shitlibs and proggies voted anyway for Zio Kween Kamala.

The browns really in themselves are just nothing.

Its the corporations and globohomo wanting cheap labor.

 

[iceteayo]

Firstly, Battlefield V was indirectly competing with Black Ops 4. Cold War came out two years later. Both Battlefield V and Black Ops 4 underperformed in respect to their franchise history and publisher expectations.

Secondly, I do not see Battlefield as a direct competitor to Call of Duty. Call of Duty is a yearly franchise; that's an uphill battle because CoD is a juggernaut brand that counts on frequency. I'm sure there's an overlap between each fanbase, but people buy Battlefield for large-scale, authentic battles. Battlefield doesn't need to compete with Call of Duty to be successful, see Battlefield 3, 1, and the Bad Company sub-series. It needs to do what it does best.

Damn sorry I forgot....HOW THE FUCK DO YOU LOSE TO BLACK OPS 4 THEN

I cant wait to not play Battlefield 6 because EA still can’t figure out anticheat on linux.
I get that it’s only 4% of the steam userbase but Battlefield is played by autistic men so the linux user percentage for battlefield games has to be like 10% at least

fyi, BF6 needs Secureboot enabled in your BIOS too apparently lol

 

[Screamer_2]

What is the controversy over Secureboot? I saw people complaining when that got added to BF 2042 but never really saw it explained why.

Often with these things, my default assumption is that the people complaining are people who cheat. Upset it'll get in the way of that but pretending there's a different more reasonable reason to be against it.

 

[Thiletonomics]

What is the controversy over Secureboot? I saw people complaining when that got added to BF 2042 but never really saw it explained why.

Often with these things, my default assumption is that the people complaining are people who cheat. Upset it'll get in the way of that but pretending there's a different more reasonable reason to be against it.

Kernel anti-cheat systems started getting a bad rap when Riot Games started using Vanguard with their games. Vanguard would STAY running even after you close a Riot Game, so you'd have to restart your computer to close it. People have also reported that Vanguard caused their computers to break, all while Riot Games covers up those complaints. Also, even after you install their games, you'd also have to uninstall Vanguard manually afterwards, I think.

EA Anti-Cheat also had its fair share of issues when it launched, such as breaking FIFA 23 to the point that many players weren't able to play the game until it got "fixed", and people still find ways to bypass it and cheat.

Another example of anti-cheats breaking a game is SARD with Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown. After SARD was re-enabled in Season 4, people have reported that they cannot go from Ibiza to Hong Kong Island, because SARD WOULD CAUSE THE GAME TO CRASH WHEN YOU TRY TO DO THAT.

In regards to Secure Boot, depending on your computer settings, turning it on or off may cause some things with your computer (I'm not sure what are the specifics though) to stop working.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

What is the controversy over Secureboot? I saw people complaining when that got added to BF 2042 but never really saw it explained why.

It's the inherent Windows security, more of an active defense than passive don't-download-malware defense, which uses more resources while idle. That and as @Thiletonomics said it opens you up to ring 0 "security" programs that, like the games, are poorly optimized and run constantly with a chance to brick your rig.

 

[The Last Stand]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JhUkNWI4vfsIt looks more grounded than 2042 by far but who knows if it will stay that way by the time it launches.

I'm optimistic that Battlefield would see a resurgence from 6 like Call of Duty would from MW2019. But, then I remember how off the rails the series went towards after Warzone's popularity.

So far, it answers one question. There are no factions. I like the UI radio sound effects and announcer chatter, but it reminds me of MW2019. So, the novelty of this game's success will be that it's modern warfare, tried-and-true Battlefield in a higher fidelity.