Section 230 wasn't meant to protect publications pushing libel. If kf encourages and hosts libelous material, and makes efforts to prevent that libelous material from being removed or corrected, that's not a free speech issue.
It seems to me that this problem will simply go away once Jack Dorsey bends the knee like the whore he is.
So, if anything, it's Dorsey who should be blamed for this because he can't seem to control his employees from doing stupid shit. It is dumb to provoke government officials, what do you expect to happen?
Both parties want to do this, the only reason they haven't already is they want to do it for different reasons. The only thing stopping it currently is they are too stupid and busy swordfighting with their dicks to actually do anything at all, much less this.
To be honest, part of me feels like the internet and culture is so beyond redemption, this may be a good thing--hurting the internet. Hold on, before you rate me dumb, I'm not really committed to this, just something I think about time to time. Can the internet be fixed? I feel like the internet has caused the downfall of our culture. Everything went corporate and juvenile once the web went totally mainstream. I kind of feel like it needs to die so human relationships can begin to repair.
Everything is almost de facto destroyed by censorship anyway right down to political forces leaning on payment processors. Is there any hope? Please tell me there is.
But yeah, the retards saying this is 4D Trump Chess will probably end up saying, if Trump loses the election, it was all part of his master plan and he really owned the libs by losing.
Everything is almost de facto destroyed by censorship anyway right down to political forces leaning on payment processors. Is there any hope? Please tell me there is.
2016 Bernie was the closest thing to hope, except he was a sheepdog/fake candidate to boost Hillary until he realized he could taste power. Hence him transforming into 2020 Super Idpol Bernie, which was powerful but ill-suited to today's US politics.
So, honestly? No. There really isn't any hope. Not a single candidate I can think of wants to do anything about the financial system. Closest thing is Trump saying to audit the Fed, which is not the same thing.
Everything is totally fucked, and we have Twitter employees being imbeciles to thank for throwing a lit match on the California-tier plant growth.
The difference is they will have to ban you in accordance to the law. If they are held liable for posts on their sites, they will ban everyone aside from bots that just share news articles. Which will have their comment sections turned off. Every site in america that has user comments will find it easier to ban everyone rather than have the required moderation staff.
The difference is they will have to ban you in accordance to the law. If they are held liable for posts on their sites, they will ban everyone aside from bots that just share news articles. Which will have their comment sections turned off. Every site in america that has user comments will find it easier to ban everyone rather than have the required moderation staff.
Yep. The only thing getting rid of 230 would do is get rid of all places where the average user could post anything, because it would be too much of a liability for the host to keep them going. In other words, eliminate the very thing that made the internet different from pretty much any other form of media in the first place. Sure, Twitter will be gone, but we'd be left with an internet where all the content comes from the same handful of media companies that already own everything else.
Both parties want to do this, the only reason they haven't already is they want to do it for different reasons. The only thing stopping it currently is they are too stupid and busy swordfighting with their dicks to actually do anything at all, much less this.
Do you think this is realistically the only way to avoid a repeal of Section 230? Have each chamber of Congress be a different party so one will oppose a Bill on principle because it came from Trump or Biden?
Could whatever Bill that gets introduced in Congress be so watered down and stuffed full of legal nonsense to appeal to both parties that it is unenforceable and you need to jump through 10 flaming hoops to get anything done?
This day was always going to come. And if it hasn't come now it will come around the corner. They've been financially abusing people who have donated to wrongthink websites for several years, not just cutting off the payment processing to the people at the top. The whole lot of us have been data raped and privacy raped to high heaven and back. This is just more of the same: control, power, and mastering those that disagree with you and even those that might disagree with you one day.
Mastering the Internet.
It's almost here. I made a quip yesterday about a website called 'arrse' and about this place too. I made the comment that this place (and arrse) won't exist in a couple of years time. That was being generous. If we/they do exist, it will be in a mighty different form.
There aren't many places where you can say the word 'nigger' on the internet and still have a semi-coherent conversation. This is one of the few left.
So many twists and turns. Who would be an oracle and predict the future? No one can. The internet moves too fast. Laws move even faster, and no one, repeat no one, knows what the fuck is going on. Who could have predicted half the shit they have brought about that has affected ALL of us in our day to day internet usage. It's over. It's been over for a while. We've just been picking on the bones of a dead corpse. Plus, they just move the fucking goalposts or just pull the rug out from under it all if it suits them. That's what power is. Being able to do what the fuck you want and no one, not even the rest of the population of planet earth can fucking stop you.
As for Trump. Let's get one thing straight good buddies. Just because someone posts Trump memes and just because they get annoyed by TDS in their friends and family, does not mean they support Trump outright. I've said I support him, but I don't really. Not being disingenuous. I couldn't give a fuck. He doesn't give a fuck about me. Then again, he makes no difference to my life and it's pretty sweet winding up those that go rabid at the mention of his name, and say that anyone who doesn't think he should should be killed is a shill and blind supporter. Trump was a joke that got out of hand. Some of us are just going along with it.
So far he hasn't started any world wars. But give it time. There's as much chance of him cleaning up the streets when he (if he) gets back in as there is of him starting a WWIII with Iran or WTF. It works both ways. Up till now the joke has been pretty funny. But come next election and the coming years, we will see what happens. It won't be good no matter what. For different reasons. There will be hell to pay if he gets back in, and also if he doesn't. So yeah, fuck Trump, even though I still support him (kind of). The poster that said he was voted in because of desperation got it right. It's as simple and as mundane as that. Trump will betray anyone and everyone if it suits his purposes.
As for this internet bullshit, get used to it - it's been a long time coming. And if this one fails, then there's a new corner to turn to be blindsided by later, with more goalposts being moved and rugs to be pulled from under us/you.
I post like every day is my last here at the farms. Because I fucking RELISH this place. And too many of you motherfuckers just take it for granted. They are coming for us. They are coming for all of us. And when this ends, it will all fucking end. There will be no alternative. If you made any friends along the way, then get an email addy or whatever, NOW. You won't even be able to negrate spergs like me when shit goes down, because the infrastructure just won't exist any more. Something new will take its place, but probably not straight away. It will be the end of an era.
You should care because it’s a threat to all free speech online. To sum it up, KF and many other sites would have to shut down, leave the country, or install firewalls because if someone said “fag”, “nigger”, or “kike” (be it ironically or unironically), Null would consequently be held responsible by the law.
It's the only realistic way to prevent Congress from doing all the dumb shit it does whenever it's actually capable of doing anything, not just fucking up § 230. Gridlock isn't a bug, it's a feature.
Can the internet be fixed? I feel like the internet has caused the downfall of our culture. Everything went corporate and juvenile once the web went totally mainstream. I kind of feel like it needs to die so human relationships can begin to repair.
Interesting point. I suppose the Internet started to go downhill when everybody started associating their personal identities online along with Internet access being more accessible and dependent thanks to smartphones and the like.
Internet was a revolutionary human invention that we've taken for granted nowadays. There's still good to be had from the World Wide Web, but everybody is fighting against it. Adults in power that don't understand how it works, and the younger crowd that abuses it beyond recognition.
Interesting point. I suppose the Internet started to go downhill when everybody started associating their personal identities online along with Internet access being more accessible and dependent thanks to smartphones and the like.
Internet was a revolutionary human invention that we've taken for granted nowadays. There's still good to be had from the World Wide Web, but everybody is fighting against it. Adults in power that don't understand how it works, and the younger crowd that abuses it beyond recognition.
That's been my feeling, too. The internet wasn't too bad of a thing, generally speaking, when most people considered it a separate realm from your everyday personal life, that could be entered and left at any time. (And should be left occasionally, for your own good.) And that coincided with more difficult access to it. The real damage started being done when people started seeing internet activity as something inherently linked with their personal life, and easy access to it as a right.
And to be fair, I don't think the younger crowd really understands how it works, either. If more people did, there wouldn't be so many people with such a hateboner for sites like KF.
How is repealing section 230 going to stop companies from censoring and banning people? Wouldn't it force companies to censor and ban people avoid getting in legal trouble?
