Battle for Section 230 - The Situation Monitoring Thread for Monitoring the Situation of the Situation Monitor's Situation Monitoring

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Null said:
This process is two fold:
1. Change parts of Title III of the USA PATRIOT Act so banks are less liable for illegal activity done by Americans and their businesses, and
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And of course this would come with all the KYC/AML shit already in PATRIOT. This would mean you really couldn't do any monetary system shit without being doxed but we live in reality and that shit isn't going away. Even if actually anonymous crypto takes off in a way that makes that practical it will still be illegal to use it to evade liabilities.
 
Pissmaster said:
Come to think of it, they really do see the internet like cable TV packages, don't they? Like, they don't realize the internet doesn't work the same way as TV stations vs. pirate broadcasters back in the analog days, and don't seem to know that Twitter isn't some colossal central hub of the internet.
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I mean, realistically, a few sites kind of are the colossal central hub of the internet

I don't know the numbers, but a majority of net traffic in the US goes through just a few sites, of which like, twitter and facebook are some of, I'm sure if we limit it to social media, the amount that is Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, vs everything else in terms of raw traffic is breaking 75% easily.
 
AnAccount said:
People that say this repeal 230 shit won't have negative consequences must be turning an eye to the fact that the suits working for mega corps and seedy agencies take everything they can get plus more when it comes to fucking over and quashing the freedoms of the internet.
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Every time Trump tweets this shit, StoneToss reposts this as a reply.

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These people really have no concept of what Section 230 does besides how it insulates Twitter from civil liability and that's all they care about. If they can say "nigger" on Twitter, they would let the water around them boil them alive.
 
What I imagine actually happening with any section 230 reform is like in California where they tried to target Uber with laws against abusing independent contractor loopholes to avoid having to give benefits to employees. The laws came into effect, started to fuck things up all over the place, and Uber + Lyft threatened to leave the state, so they got a cutout exemption from the law that was specifically made to target them.
 
Troonos said:
I'd agree with you, but 99% the site's users are retarded zealots who believe Trump is without fault, and I don't feel like spending my day off arguing with faggots.
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Political tribes and the banning of laughing at both sides for being a humongous bunch of overdramatic faggots have killed more brain cells than all of cancer combined

AnOminous said:
And of course this would come with all the KYC/AML shit already in PATRIOT. This would mean you really couldn't do any monetary system shit without being doxed but we live in reality and that shit isn't going away. Even if actually anonymous crypto takes off in a way that makes that practical it will still be illegal to use it to evade liabilities.
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Yep: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-i...-privacy-focused-cryptocurrency-monero.76236/
 
Null said:
If they can say "nigger" on Twitter, they would let the water around them boil them alive.
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Except they wouldn't be able to say "nigger" on Twitter. Twitter would more or less have to delete anything, immediately, that got even the slightest threat from the ADL/SPLC or whoever for some kind of hate speech, whether it was frivolous or not, because they're not going to shell out millions to defend your dumb Nazi ass.

They'd get a list of people who had to go every morning from every SJW group, religious group, social warriors on the right and left, and all you'd be left with is pure corporate pabulum from people with more money than God.
 
Null said:
Every time Trump tweets this shit, StoneToss reposts this as a reply.

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These people really have no concept of what Section 230 does besides how it insulates Twitter from civil liability and that's all they care about. If they can say "nigger" on Twitter, they would let the water around them boil them alive.
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I was just about to post this but I guess I was too slow. Oh well, stonetoss is a retard and here's the archive of said tweet. They really just want it gone to "own the libs" because trump is posting it
 
AnOminous said:
Except they wouldn't be able to say "nigger" on Twitter. Twitter would more or less have to delete anything, immediately, that got even the slightest threat from the ADL/SPLC or whoever for some kind of hate speech, whether it was frivolous or not, because they're not going to shell out millions to defend your dumb Nazi ass.

They'd get a list of people who had to go every morning from every SJW group, religious group, social warriors on the right and left, and all you'd be left with is pure corporate pabulum from people with more money than God.
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It’s the dumbest idea possible to touch it and every time Trump throws a tantrum it’s gets closer to going away
 
Sheryl Nome said:
I mean, realistically, a few sites kind of are the colossal central hub of the internet

I don't know the numbers, but a majority of net traffic in the US goes through just a few sites, of which like, twitter and facebook are some of, I'm sure if we limit it to social media, the amount that is Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, vs everything else in terms of raw traffic is breaking 75% easily.
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Yeah, though it's not like 90's AOL when you connected through them and saw their shit at first, with a lot of people (me included, when I was a kid) not even realizing there was a whole wide internet out there full of people like us that stay away from big social media. Then again, there's nowhere alternative that'd interest a normie because of the problems of monetization. Surprise surprise, Null is right again.
 
Null said:
The fat faggot retard has found enough time between shaking hands and swapping spit with every senior GOP official to tweet this out again.

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There's yet another Section 230 amendment that was proposed in the House as a bipartisan effort between Tulsi Gabbard (D, HI-02) and Paul Gossar (R, AZ-04) called the Don't Touch Me Act. It offers similar changes to Section 230.

https://gabbard.house.gov/news/pres...r-introduce-bill-prevent-unwanted-anti-social
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8515/all-info

Supposedly this one is meant to only remove Section 230 protections for services which use user data without their consent to offer content, but which will realistically only result in more GDPR-essque notifications that help fucking nothing.

If you don't know what Section 230 is or how it helped foster the Internet since before the towers fell, now's a good time to learn.


If you're wondering why there's suddenly 5 or 6 amendments in various stages of the congress and proposed by the FBI about Section 230, it's because of tweets like this. Everyone was treated the same, and the CDA was basically untouchable. Now it's very political, very partisan, and definitely will be changed. Everyone wants to get their own carve-outs and definitions in while the iron is hot.
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The boomer GEOTUS wanted to leave the hospital JUST to post some stupid shit on Twitter. Then try to repeal Section 230 WHILE denying Coronavirus.
 
pwnest injun said:
What I imagine actually happening with any section 230 reform is like in California where they tried to target Uber with laws against abusing independent contractor loopholes to avoid having to give benefits to employees. The laws came into effect, started to fuck things up all over the place, and Uber + Lyft threatened to leave the state, so they got a cutout exemption from the law that was specifically made to target them.
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It's kind of unacceptable people with enough money to buy God are the ones who make the laws rather than actual government trying to improve quality of life. Of course Trump doesn't recognize this as a person with money. The only people left on the internet who can get those exemptions will be the big boys and actual abuses (ei arbitrary payment processor rules) will go unchanged.
 
Schlomo Silverscreenblatt said:
I was just about to post this but I guess I was too slow. Oh well, stonetoss is a retard and here's the archive of said tweet. They really just want it gone to "own the libs" because trump is posting it
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ST's entire persona is being controversial. Why would he change his tune now?

Also most faggots proposing we get rid of 230 use super-popular normie sites anyways. They don't care about smaller sites like us.
 
AnOminous said:
This is what happens when you elect a baby in the form of a full grown man and give him the White House as a playpen.
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There's probably a "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" joke in here, considering the problem comes down to monetization and oligopolies keeping even the possibility of serious competition locked out.

The same president that hammered the table over bringing manufacturing back to America sure doesn't seem to give a fuck that all of the manufacturing will be exclusively under the wings of billion and trillion dollar companies. How many small businesses shut down during COVID, and how much money did Amazon make this year? The answer to both? Shitloads.
 
Pissmaster said:
There's probably a "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" joke in here, considering the problem comes down to monetization and oligopolies keeping even the possibility of serious competition locked out.

The same president that hammered the table over bringing manufacturing back to America sure doesn't seem to give a fuck that all of the manufacturing will be exclusively under the wings of billion and trillion dollar companies. How many small businesses shut down during COVID, and how much money did Amazon make this year? The answer to both? Shitloads.
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This is his 5d backgammon way of draining the swamp #TrustThePlan
 
Honestly, I'm one of Trump's more avid supporters here and even I can't condone messing with 230. However, lest we forget, both candidates have spoken about doing it. There's no real winning move for us currently. Ultimately all we can do is hope it ends up going nowhere.
 
Null said:
Every time Trump tweets this shit, StoneToss reposts this as a reply.

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These people really have no concept of what Section 230 does besides how it insulates Twitter from civil liability and that's all they care about. If they can say "nigger" on Twitter, they would let the water around them boil them alive.
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If Trump nukes 230 I probably won't even get the schadenfraude of seeing these people have to deal with an even more policed ecosystem.
 
I don't understand the end game Trump is going for.

It's THEIR site, they can do what they want with THEIR site. It's not always fair, but even the President needs to realize that he can't just say whatever, whenever he wants because people will interpret that as pure fact.

Does he understand how the Internet works? Or will he just throw a temper tantrum whenever he cannot say what he wants without consequence?
 
Pissmaster said:
There's probably a "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" joke in here, considering the problem comes down to monetization and oligopolies keeping even the possibility of serious competition locked out. The same president that hammered the table over bringing manufacturing back to America sure doesn't seem to give a fuck that all of the manufacturing will be exclusively under the wings of billion and trillion dollar companies.
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The problem is he is a boomer, so no going against the free market and no understanding on how tech laws work.
Also, he kind of failed the test on brining back manufacturing when he couldn't accept needing his own buisness to stop abusing H1b visas.

I refuse to blame his voters for this though, this is all on him; They voted for him out of desperation from the status quo that was killing them in areas like the rust belt and now they are getting nothing either way.
 
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