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DrPrincessMeatball said:
In 2000, 'geek' webcomics hadn't really evolved past User Friendly* in terms of art and storytelling:
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hey another oldfag. i spent a friday evening reading all this guys comic strips sometime in 2001 or 2002 and i remember regretting it, could have and should have done literally anything else.


since i'm going down the late 90s webcomic memory lane, ded lolcow mr. lowtax made webcomics too, but ironically. computer or gayming related. looking at some of these, they influenced my retarded sense of humor more than i care to admit.
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... i guess you just had to be there

totally accurate criticism of user friendly
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oh and here's the single best penny arcade
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Marmite Despiser said:
hey another oldfag.
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Speaking of being old as fuck...
PvP was already brought up in the thread but of course there was nothing particularly interesting about it aside from the fact that Kurtz was still cranking them out all the way into 2022. And just like almost every other golden age 'geek' webcomic, it got a fanbase simply because it existed. I remember exactly one comic from the entire time I read it.

You see, during the 2000 Superbowl, Budweiser aired the Wassup commercial.

It was immensely popular. Kurtz capitalized on this fact with the 'Huzzah' comic:
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For me and my faggot friends, this was about the funniest thing we ever read. Someone signs in to AOL Instant Messenger? You bet they're getting a huzzah. And a forsooth.

Alright that's it I promise not to wax nostalgic about this shit any more.
 
DrPrincessMeatball said:
Speaking of being old as fuck...
PvP was already brought up in the thread but of course there was nothing particularly interesting about it aside from the fact that Kurtz was still cranking them out all the way into 2022. And just like almost every other golden age 'geek' webcomic, it got a fanbase simply because it existed. I remember exactly one comic from the entire time I read it.

You see, during the 2000 Superbowl, Budweiser aired the Wassup commercial.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JJmqCKtJnxM
It was immensely popular. Kurtz capitalized on this fact with the 'Huzzah' comic:
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For me and my faggot friends, this was about the funniest thing we ever read. Someone signs in to AOL Instant Messenger? You bet they're getting a huzzah. And a forsooth.

Alright that's it I promise not to wax nostalgic about this shit any more.
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was that the comic that had the artist mac user guy in the black turtleneck? i used to read that stupid comic too.
 
DrPrincessMeatball said:
Speaking of being old as fuck...
PvP was already brought up in the thread but of course there was nothing particularly interesting about it aside from the fact that Kurtz was still cranking them out all the way into 2022. And just like almost every other golden age 'geek' webcomic, it got a fanbase simply because it existed. I remember exactly one comic from the entire time I read it.

You see, during the 2000 Superbowl, Budweiser aired the Wassup commercial.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JJmqCKtJnxM
It was immensely popular. Kurtz capitalized on this fact with the 'Huzzah' comic:
View attachment 8975398

For me and my faggot friends, this was about the funniest thing we ever read. Someone signs in to AOL Instant Messenger? You bet they're getting a huzzah. And a forsooth.

Alright that's it I promise not to wax nostalgic about this shit any more.
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I did not like PvP. I did not like Kurtz from what little I know of him.

Kurtz wanted to be a newspaper syndicated cartoonist so,so bad. He basically had PvP running to syndicated image constraints until at least 2010.

that said, Daily PvP was fucking worthless. I didn't like his cast or their layer smug self righteousness, I did not enjoy his lack of humor. However when he did a special event it was usually worth a read except for his gay cat vs. Santa comic. but the Ombudsmen was a decent read.
I would have respected the hustle if he was less of a fart huffing prick to the end.

Also, for everyone shitting on "golden age" webcomics, I remind you that the instagram comics that have come after: Mom Comics, Pizza Cake, the previous wave of "Adulting, amirite?" comics....all of them are just as cringe and often even worse.
 
Ghostse said:
I did not like PvP. I did not like Kurtz from what little I know of him.

Kurtz wanted to be a newspaper syndicated cartoonist so,so bad. He basically had PvP running to syndicated image constraints until at least 2010.

that said, Daily PvP was fucking worthless. I didn't like his cast or their layer smug self righteousness, I did not enjoy his lack of humor. However when he did a special event it was usually worth a read except for his gay cat vs. Santa comic. but the Ombudsmen was a decent read.
I would have respected the hustle if he was less of a fart huffing prick to the end.

Also, for everyone shitting on "golden age" webcomics, I remind you that the instagram comics that have come after: Mom Comics, Pizza Cake, the previous wave of "Adulting, amirite?" comics....all of them are just as cringe and often even worse.
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Kurtz's big problem was that he thought he was ready for the big time when he wasn't and refused to accept that maybe the 'old fogies' as he called them knew better than he did. By 2010, he admitted that the old PVP strips were pedestrian and he thought it was stupid that anyone liked them. At the time he was drawing them? They were just as good as any other newspaper comic out there, the crotchety old men at the newspapers are just afraid of change because it's different. He kept being needlessly antagonistic towards them, he couldn't even accept his Eisner graciously, and then whined and moaned that the National Cartoonist Society didn't want anything to do with him.

But the reason he thought that webcomics was the way of the future is because he had so little experience with print comics that he genuinely thought the money he got from his PVP print issues were comparable with what everyone else got. Those contained strips that were six to eight months old at the time of printing and averaged around 5K sold a month. Eventually a guy in the industry broke down costs, pointed out how little Scott was making compared to others, and he decided to quit working with Image to get a bigger slice of the pie (Image only takes 5% plus printing costs).

At the time of his height, a newspaper comic earned $5 per newspaper per week. That means if you could get into 56 newspapers, you were earning national minimum wage. But the unions didn't stop at that, they got you into as many papers as possible, with 1000 being a low end. That means that he could have apologized to the unions, created a brand new comic, gotten it accepted, and made more in a week than PVP was making in a month.

But he refused to accept that the print comics could give him anything beyond a pittance because that's what he and his buddies were getting, so clearly anyone who said differently had to be a hater.
 
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