Back 4 Blood - Left 4 Dead's spiritual successor

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ZMOT said:
no idea where rumors like that come from, but I'm really curious since I read them all the time.

fact is valve bought turtle rock in 2008, which unless it was a highly unusual contract l4d belonged to valve after that (they were officially valve south at that point). it's not even buried in history, wikipedia has it's own article about it:



now, we all know valve time is a thing, so how the fuck did valve do a sequel in exactly a year?
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The rumor I personally hear is that Valve wanted to stick to a timetable for once, and so Left 4 Dead 2 came out in only a year since they had a good deal of people working on it. That said, it was also the buggiest release of a Valve game.

The rumor also states that after the pushback for making the game too quickly, Valve just stopped caring about releases and put games out when they felt like it. It also may have been the reason Left 4 Dead 3 was canceled.

I personally don't see the big deal given the game was released over a decade ago, and a lot of people (especially console players) never heard of Valve's promise to update the game until after the sequel came out. To me, I find it interesting that Valve was able to expand upon a game in a year better than TRS could in 2-3 years.
 
Gloria From Pokemon Sword said:
The rumor I personally hear is that Valve wanted to stick to a timetable for once, and so Left 4 Dead 2 came out in only a year since they had a good deal of people working on it. That said, it was also the buggiest release of a Valve game.

The rumor also states that after the pushback for making the game too quickly, Valve just stopped caring about releases and put games out when they felt like it. It also may have been the reason Left 4 Dead 3 was canceled.

I personally don't see the big deal given the game was released over a decade ago, and a lot of people (especially console players) never heard of Valve's promise to update the game until after the sequel came out. To me, I find it interesting that Valve was able to expand upon a game in a year better than TRS could in 2-3 years.
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I just want improvement that or I'm still salty that L4D1 was abandoned so quickly.
 
To bring this back to Back 4 Blood, the burner cards look like a setup for Microtransactions. I'm getting Crash Team Racing: Nitro-Fueled vibes from the December update.
 
Gloria From Pokemon Sword said:
To bring this back to Back 4 Blood, the burner cards look like a setup for Microtransactions. I'm getting Crash Team Racing: Nitro-Fueled vibes from the December update.
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Anyway. Current update.


-Nerfed the last remaining Melee Cards

Because for some reason, the developers listen to the babies on Reddit crying about people WINNING. Like jesus christ. Why are you listening to these freaks? They get the changes they want, then they stop playing the game. Guaranteed. Look at WWZ for example.
Redditors cried about the ammo box being overpowered. ( IN A PVE GAME WITH INFINITE ENEMIES, this was the only way to maintain high DPS and restore ammo after they nerfed Ammo.) Two years later, it's been nerfed to shit and the same people crying for the nerfs? They haven't posted in the board since Horde mode fucked up the game.

-Nerfed ALL of the Speed Cards.
No more speed running for you.

-Moved Barbed Wire from Offensive Slot to Quick Slot.
Barbed Wire Duplicates CONSTANTLY on use if you have it at purple tier.
There are no cards that grant you bonus Quick Slots. Rather than nerf the duplication, they just reduced your chances of getting a chance to duplicate it on use. So it's either Play Karlee and not take a tool kit OR spend all your coins on Quick Slots, which nobody does.

-Reworked a lot of cards for no reason.
Energy Drink and Cold Brew Coffee are now absolutely fucking insane to the point those two cards alone replace 6 different cards.

- Reworked Medic to be less convenient/ require more cards to get rolling.

-Added Burner Cards.
One time use cards in a randomly generated game. What could possibly go wrong?
On the bright side, everyone who grinded a million SP before the nerfs can just buy all the burner cards and laugh.

-Sleepers buffed.
They're now homing missiles that can and will fly half the level to catch any retard who isn't playing Karlee. Holy shit. These things now slow the game down to a crawl. MANY more spawn and you don't even have to be near it to trigger it.

-Crusher nerfed.
It's still a tank in a world of tanks, but at least you can barely dodge it now.

-Stinger nerfed.
It's still a machine gun, but there's a difference between getting hit 15 times in 3 seconds and 8 times in 5 seconds.

Meanwhile, you can still fall through the floor on 1-1 even if you waited a minute before crossing the bridge.
 
This game would have been better off just being a CoD Zombies rip-off. Honestly, the characters are less annoying than modern Cod-Zom protags are.
 
I feel kind of bad for giving Valve shit for releasing Left 4 Dead 2 so quickly now. I still think they released it way too quickly but in retrospect I get why since they had to re-do everything Turtlerock did.

Turtlerock confirmed as the Ringo Star of game developers with L4D.
 
The Doom Slayer said:
Damn it got the Crowbcat treatment. That's like the kiss of death.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EdRLNUGmFC8
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>old game needs effort put into it to compensate for how shitty it is
>new game puts no effort in so people focus on how good the game actually is
Thank you Crowbcat for further re-enforcing this point to me, while everyone is here in this thread, I'd recommend they pick up a copy of "BACK 4 BLOOD", the revival of the long dormant Left 4 Dead franchise BY THE ORIGINAL CREATORS just to really see how true my point is.
 
That ending where he changes the text "From the creators of Left 4 Dead" to "From the creators of Evolve." Fucking. BRUTAL. Absolute fucking annihilation. Turtle Rock is done. The only thing they can do is change their name or focus on phone games.
 
BrunoMattei said:
That ending where he changes the text "From the creators of Left 4 Dead" to "From the creators of Evolve." Fucking. BRUTAL. Absolute fucking annihilation. Turtle Rock is done. The only thing they can do is change their name or focus on phone games.
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Or they could have tried to release a smaller game that isn't trying to be a full-budget blockbuster. Now that they're a part of tencent, though, they're probably dead.
 
BrunoMattei said:
I feel kind of bad for giving Valve shit for releasing Left 4 Dead 2 so quickly now. I still think they released it way too quickly but in retrospect I get why since they had to re-do everything Turtlerock did.

Turtlerock confirmed as the Ringo Star of game developers with L4D.
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Tfw when Back4Blood-2 fixes all of the problems.
 
Sometimes with his videos, he goes a bit too cherry picker on the bad stuff, but I honestly can't say anything Crowbcat said was wrong.
 
Gloria From Pokemon Sword said:
Or they could have tried to release a smaller game that isn't trying to be a full-budget blockbuster. Now that they're a part of tencent, though, they're probably dead.
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I find it funny that a month or so after Tencent gobbled them up that Crowbats published this. Really wouldn't be shocked to know Crowbats is some kind of industry glowie, but, a company that eats up whatever it can throw money at, and a company desperate to keep the lights on are perfect for each other.
 
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