🪦 Deceased Audrey E. Hale / Aiden E. Hale - Troon Terrorist

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I don't agree with the person you are responding to but this is retarded terminally online TERF logic. The average man has zero interest in rape.
I don't know. I think its about equal in men and women - men wanting to rape, women wanting to be raped.

Personally, I can recognize in my body a desire to do both. Acting on it is another matter, as rationality and logic and empathy override these other feelings.
 
A terminal case of Peter Pan Syndrome. The obsession with stuffed animals and cartoons, along with the maladaptive daydreaming, really gives you a good idea of how developmentally stunted this girl was. Many of the excerpts from her journal sound like they were written by a childish 14-year-old. Even the fucked up sexual entries read like they were written by a young teen who accessed internet pornography far too early in life and got their brain scrambled.
 
I never understood this weird obsession liberal White women seem to have with Black women. The best I can figure is that they want to be them or perhaps the stereotype of the outspoken shaniqkwa who wants to fight everyone. That's why they like to see them with short hair and in action roles in movies and games.
Sassy black women represent rebellion against the traditional gender roles and etiquette that they hate so much. They regularly speak out and insult others with no regard to politeness, have multiple sexual partners and probably several kids with generations of broken homes in the family. It's the exact opposite to the values they hate.
 
Keeping up with the articles that the Tennessee Star has been posting, it's clear that Hale should've been sequestered away in a mental hospital, separated from society, for life.
Fucking lock them up. Or at least chip them and make sure no machine able to connect to Internet works around them.
We need to bring back the asylums. I could go into a whole tirade about the Second Amendment and how we should be restricting who buys a gun rather than what kind of gun is available to everyone, but a grown adult that is certifiably autistic, plays pronoun games, has rape fantasies that she probably told her shrink about, and never mentally progressed past the age of 12 should not be allowed to walk freely among us as a voting United States citizen, let alone be allowed to drive and buy a gun.

Padded rooms, checkers, locked pianos, pills in Dixie cups, all around.
 
We need to bring back the asylums.
I agree. The main problem with asylums in the past was widespread abuse of patients. Not everyone in asylums was a violent psychopath. Some of them just had mental issues that made them unable to function in society, but they were relatively harmless. I think you'd need a two tier system akin to maximum security and minimum security prisons. Asylums for violent or high risk nutcases, and asylums more akin to nursing homes for low risk defectives.

There really needs to be more oversight to ensure abuse doesn't happen to low risk people, but this country is fucked and elder abuse is rampant in nursing homes. I've lost count of how many videos I've seen of mystery meat "nurses" beating on bedridden 90-year-olds. People who abuse children and the elderly should be burned alive.
 
I agree. The main problem with asylums in the past was widespread abuse of patients. Not everyone in asylums was a violent psychopath. Some of them just had mental issues that made them unable to function in society, but they were relatively harmless. I think you'd need a two tier system akin to maximum security and minimum security prisons. Asylums for violent or high risk nutcases, and asylums more akin to nursing homes for low risk defectives.

There really needs to be more oversight to ensure abuse doesn't happen to low risk people, but this country is fucked and elder abuse is rampant in nursing homes. I've lost count of how many videos I've seen of mystery meat "nurses" beating on bedridden 90-year-olds. People who abuse children and the elderly should be burned alive.
Easy, make orderlies wear bodycams like cops. Any shutting off of the body cam will be made grounds for a sex abuse investigation (because let's face it, the primary abuse we're concerned about are the guys like Buck Who Came Here to Fuck or like the creep that licked Sarah Connor's face in Terminator 2).

We'll lock the actual crazies up and scare the trendchasers back into the closet, where they fucking belong. And yes, they will go back into the closet when faced with loss of freedom and uncomfy living. I have yet to hear of a pooner felon fighting for the right to attend a mens' prison for the validation of being such an honest and true man.
 
We need to bring back the asylums. I could go into a whole tirade about the Second Amendment and how we should be restricting who buys a gun rather than what kind of gun is available to everyone, but a grown adult that is certifiably autistic, plays pronoun games, has rape fantasies that she probably told her shrink about, and never mentally progressed past the age of 12 should not be allowed to walk freely among us as a voting United States citizen, let alone be allowed to drive and buy a gun.

Padded rooms, checkers, locked pianos, pills in Dixie cups, all around.
I agree with you, but in current day, there are SO MANY of those people around. Maybe not all will go as far as shooting kids, but you see dozens of girls just like Audrey here on social media (tumblr, twitter, etc), with the same twisted fantasies, the same Peter Pan syndrome, and the same autistic behaviors. Even if we lock up the most dangerous, the not dangerous are still running around in society being part of it and influencing it.

We can't just lock up all of these people, because new people will become this eventually, and we're back to zero in the next generation. We need also to examinate what's the problem and deal with it so our children grow up normal instead of waiting which one's insane to act about it after they shoot children. All the pronoun crazies are definitely not well, as they all believe in the delusion, we can't realistically put them all in a cell, as tempting as that sounds.
 
I initially speculated they tried to supress the trannyfesto because Hale outright named one of the glowie pet Breadtubers as a inspiration for the shooting but turns out I was wrong however these ramblings make me 95% sure she got her brain scrambled by tumblr and was an avid user of the site. Before the porn ban that place was filled with Millenial/Xellenial kinkster pervs busy grooming underage b& for their sex games and Hale readily assimilated these memes but instead of adopting "uWu choke me Daddy" as her personality she took it as a base and guideline for male behaviour and sexuality. Doubly fitting if she really was touched as a kid too.
 
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So I take it the stuffed animals with sewn on dicks or whatnot were likely Pokémon plushies if not teddy bears or MLP plushies.

Oh, fuck, what if she got the idea from the Clopping community and assumed that's what men do?
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I could've amended my post to specify only the men in this thread talking about how "rape fantasies are universal in women" and "women all want the bad boy to get them pregnant" but I figured that was implied.
Its a common fetish on both sides, but fetish / actual behavior is very different. Plenty of men / women find it hot as a fantasy concept but don't actually want the REAL thing. The men (typically) won't REALLY want to harm, and the women (typically) ACTUALLY want to feel safe, but still have the thrill of a pretend struggle.


I wouldn't call this men problem though, I think its just nature.

If you struggle to understand it, its similar to horror movies, nobody LIKES enduring close calls with killers or death (outside a very small type of folk) but in a "safe" setting, being scared, or horrified is a strange type of fun.

Women don't have rqpe fantasies. They have domination fantasies that they don't know how to properly express
I can understand why you'd think this, but I'd almost say its is naturally an extension of that domination factor, particularly for women who crave more of it.


I do agree that she was more aggressive because her pooner mind figured being a man WAS hurting a woman : being a good man is hard enough for regular men, real men fail it all the time, but while a normal man is trying to tame / train his masculinity to serve things in his life while fitting in (ideally) pooners like her try to emulate what they basically will never fully understand, while a man has years to understand the nature built into him. Pooners MIGHT have testosterone injections, but they have no penis, and even without that, I think some things of the mind just NEVER change with hormones.
 
Has this been posted yet?.....

MNPD Review of Vanderbilt University Medical Center Records: Covenant Killer Audrey Hale Had ‘Thoughts of Killing Dad . . . Struggles with Mental Health. Recent Thoughts of Going into a School and Shooting a Bunch of People.’​


The Tennessee Star has obtained a Metro Nashville Police Department (MNPD) internal document labeled “Vandy Psych” which appears to be notes taken by an MNPD officer tasked with reviewing documents obtained via a search warrant granted for Vanderbilt Psychiatric Hospital, part of Vanderbilt University Medical Center (VUMC), on June 1, 2023.


The notes indicate that on page 38 of the documents retrieved from VUMC, the MNPD officer saw that Covenant killer Audrey Elizabeth Hale, who killed six people at Covenant School in Nashville on March 27, 2023, had “Thoughts of killing Dad in and struggles with mental health. Recent thoughts of going into a school and shooting a bunch of people.”


 
Has this been posted yet?.....
The Tennessee Star has obtained a Metro Nashville Police Department (MNPD) internal document labeled “Vandy Psych” which appears to be notes taken by an MNPD officer tasked with reviewing documents obtained via a search warrant granted for Vanderbilt Psychiatric Hospital, part of Vanderbilt University Medical Center (VUMC), on June 1, 2023.

The notes indicate that on page 38 of the documents retrieved from VUMC, the MNPD officer saw that Covenant killer Audrey Elizabeth Hale, who killed six people at Covenant School in Nashville on March 27, 2023, had “Thoughts of killing Dad in and struggles with mental health. Recent thoughts of going into a school and shooting a bunch of people.”

According to the document obtained by The Star, the officer reviewed at least 75 pages of VUMC materials about Hale.

The document obtained by The Star does not indicate the period of treatment for Hale covered in the VUMC notes, but The Star has learned Hale left the care of her first psychologist in 2019 and began receiving care from other VUMC mental health professionals.

The complete contents of the document labeled “Vandy Psych” can be seen below:

Drugs on page 4
  • Buspirone – Anxiety
  • Escitalopram (Lexapro) – Depression
  • Hydroxyzine – Anxiety
  • Sodium Chloride – Nasal Spray
Page 36
  • Parents concerned with her anger, sleep deprivation and increased depression. Several triggers. States she is angry with people. Denies SI, HI, and AVH.
Page 38
  • Thoughts of killing Dad in and struggles with mental health. Recent thoughts of going into a school and shooting a bunch of people.
Page 48
  • Homicidal thoughts with a plan. Misunderstood and felt like she needed to prove a point.
Page 58
  • I have violent fantasies but wouldn’t do anything
Page 62
  • SI and HI.
  • “Thinking a lot about death, both Suicidal and homicidal
  • Thinks about jumping off a bridge
  • Has fantasies of being a school shooter
  • Wrapped a cord around her neck
Page 72
  • Worsening Depression, SI, HI
Page 73
  • Has homicidal thoughts, such as shooting at a school
  • Thoughts of jumping off a bridge or wrapping a cord around her neck
  • Homicidal thoughts of killing her father. “Sometimes I get frustrated with him and have homicidal thoughts
Page 75
  • Homicidal thoughts “That I would not act on”
  • Worsening depression with intrusive ego-dystonic SI and HI
While the document suggests Hale was prescribed only four medications, The Star has additionally located a fifth medication prescribed to Hale. This drug is from the Benzodiazepine family of anti-anxiety medications the FDA warns is “associated with amnesia, hostility, irritability, and vivid or disturbing dreams.”

Based on VUMC materials retrieved by police, the notes appear to complement and corroborate additional details obtained by The Star.

This includes information provided by a source familiar with the MNPD investigation, who told The Star that MNPD Chief John Drake acknowledged to them that VUMC had knowledge that Hale expressed to mental health professionals there she had thoughts of killing her father and fantasized about committing a mass murder at a school, but failed its duty to warn potential victims.

The Star has learned that Drake acknowledged VUMC staff failed to adhere to Tennessee Code 33-3-206, which at the time of Hale’s March 27, 2023 attack mandated mental health professionals and behavioral analysts “shall take reasonable care to predict, warn of, or take precautions to protect the identified victim from the service recipient’s violent behavior.”

Upon learning of a mental health patient’s threat, Tennessee Code 33-3-207 explains they are meant to inform identified victims, take steps to voluntarily or involuntarily commit the patient, and continue mental health treatment.

While there is no criminal penalty for mental health professionals who neglect their duty to warn, Tennessee Code 33-3-209 suggests mental health professionals who fail to warn could face monetary liability in court.

However, Tennessee Code Title 28 appears to limit civil actions in personal injury to just one year.

A scholarly journal article presented by the National Library of Medicine explains that psychiatrists could face professional and civil consequences for failing to warn intended victims or targets of an individual, and specifically that a psychiatrist who releases a patient without gathering pertinent information about their capability to commit a violent attack could face civil liability.

Additional analysis by the McCain Institute explains, “Importantly, even if a threat doesn’t constitute a duty to warn, it should be taken seriously and handled appropriately internally,” because a [f]ailure to act or provide appropriate support in light of a threat may lead to harm or to an unintentional breach of duty of care obligations, providing grounds for a civil action lawsuit.”

The Star previously reported it has learned the identity of the original psychologist who treated Hale. More recently, The Star has learned the identities of a psychiatric nurse practitioner and psychiatrist who both treated Hale and prescribed at least five medications prior to her death.

In an affidavit submitted by an MNPD detective in order to obtain the search warrant for VUMC, published by The Star, it was additionally revealed that Hale received treatment at VUMC or from mental health professionals affiliated with VUMC from April 2001 until her death.

Upon searching the Hale family home, detectives discovered a VUMC folder “with a portion of Audrey Hale’s medical history from Vanderbilt Psychiatric Hospital.”

The Star additionally obtained photographs which depict both the front of this folder as police found it as well as some of its contents.

Titled Vanderbilt University Medical Center Partial Hospitalization Program, the label and handwriting on the front of the folder’s label indicate it contained “Discharge Information” and other data related to a VUMC Intensive Outpatient Program (IOP) in which Hale participated in 2019.

Inside the folder was a partially visible page titled “After Visit Summary” that contained Hale’s name. The document is dated August 26, 2019, and confirms Hale was seen by VUMC staff on that day.

Two handwritten notes on the page included the name of an individual and instructions to “follow up with primary care” after the VUMC visit.

On the other side of the folder was a second partially visible document which appears to contain advice about self-soothing techniques that can “help calm and relax our mind and body” when “feeling anxious or overwhelmed.”

While the exact title of the VUMC program Hale joined in 2019 is unclear from the photographs obtained by The Star, a VUMC web page explains, “Our Adult Partial Hospitalization program is designed to help adults struggling with mental health concerns whose symptoms are not responding to current outpatient therapy and/or medications.”

This program is “personalized to each client’s needs and symptoms, which may include anger or irritability, inability, inability to regulate emotions, interpersonal conflicts, isolation, mood-related sleep disturbances or recurring suicidal thoughts,” according to VUMC.

After Hale’s attack, Representative Jason Zachary (R-Knoxville) successfully passed legislation that additionally required mental health providers to report to law enforcement in addition to their patient’s the intended victim.

Both Star News Digital Media, Inc. (SNDM), which owns and operates The Star, and editor-in-chief Michael Patrick Leahy are suing to compel the full release of Hale’s writings, including those some call a manifesto, from MNPD. Leahy and SNDM are similarly plaintiffs in the federal lawsuit to compel the FBI to release Hale’s writings.

The Star recently published an FBI memo, addressed to Drake and sent in May 2023, which “strongly” advised against the release of “legacy tokens” from individuals like Hale. Such “legacy tokens” appear to include all of Hale’s writings, including those obtained by The Star and those sought in the lawsuits.

Last week, the FBI declined to confirm it sent the memo in a statement to The Star, but confirmed it sends such “products” to local law enforcement partners.

Since obtaining a tranche of documents related to the Covenant case, as well as about 80 pages from the journal recovered from Hale’s vehicle, The Star has published dozens of articles reporting new information about the killer, including excerpts of her own words in the days before March 27, 2023.

MNPD submitted a Friday legal filing that confirmed the authenticity of the materials obtained by The Star.

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Tom Pappert is the lead reporter for The Tennessee Star, and also reports for The Pennsylvania Daily Star and The Arizona Sun Times. Follow Tom on X/Twitter. Email tips to pappert.tom@proton.me.
Image “Audrey Elizabeth Hale” by Nossi School of Fine Art and “Vanderbilt Health Campus” by Vanderbilt Health.


More importantly, which Pokemon did she want to fuck?
 
Easy, make orderlies wear bodycams like cops. Any shutting off of the body cam will be made grounds for a sex abuse investigation (because let's face it, the primary abuse we're concerned about are the guys like Buck Who Came Here to Fuck or like the creep that licked Sarah Connor's face in Terminator 2).

We'll lock the actual crazies up and scare the trendchasers back into the closet, where they fucking belong. And yes, they will go back into the closet when faced with loss of freedom and uncomfy living. I have yet to hear of a pooner felon fighting for the right to attend a mens' prison for the validation of being such an honest and true man.
That worked for the guards watching Epstein and the small hat mafia
 
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