🪦 Deceased Audrey E. Hale / Aiden E. Hale - Troon Terrorist

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Some fantasies are never meant to be entertained or thought about.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Phil swifts bastard child]

Kids are not robots,
we are the future! That's how its ment 2 be

Proceeds to enter a school to shoot up “the future”

 

[Am I Very Wrong]

she was a girly woman but i think she earned the title of faggot

 

[invisibult plus+]

You see this shit on X all the time.
That actor had to come out and tell everyone "I'm not the character I played."
In that mad max movie, cause fucking retarded zoomers think fictional characters are more real than the human beings they attack for playing a bad guy in a fictional role.
Its only gonna get worse.

At the risk of going off topic, there are women who genuinely think fictional characters are their boyfriends/husbands and completely flip the fuck out at anything that contradicts that.

Audrey Hale isn’t that far removed from them. However, in society there has been a growing, serious disconnection from reality over the past few years… decades? Religion would channel those wishful thinking tendencies on paper, but Audrey Hale.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

When women think of bad boys, imo, they idealize them because they can be seen as being able to protect them is my thought.

I'm guessing a lot of lesbians (especially pooners) try to emulate that dangerous tough guy act because women have shown since we were apes just how down bad they are for that.

Ditto, I am into cozy fantasies and not strangling and I don't think I know anyone who is openly into choking. But I think the factor X missing from both explanations is narcissism - wanting to be the bad man's exception is really common in fanfiction, and there's a particular way of putting it that I can't remember but one of the phrases repeated a lot is 'she was his queen and god help anyone who disrespected his queen.' Like a big part of the fantasy is these scenarios is that you submit to him (or he makes you, as in a rape fantasy) but you're top of the tree magic princess everywhere else, and he treats you like a magic princess the rest of the time. It's really common in like ... 50 shades of grey, those fairy porn books, probably any beauty and the beast retelling. So you're the special princess who submits to one guy in order to feed off his own social status as the alpha dog ... it's narcissistic, it's materialistic, it's a specific type of woman and I wouldn't say it was common. Women who are probably over represented on the internet and in 'spicy' fantasy communities because they don't / can't have the status they feel they deserve irl.

I think choking is slightly different in that it's a cheap way to feel something / have an intense experience in what would otherwise be a starfish situation. I don't think any guy who's pushing for choking is going to be the kind of guy to spend time finding the clit. Also I associate choking with NSA ONS anyway, so impulsive sex where the guy is even less likely to put effort into what's a one and done deal. Basically a way to ignore that you're having unsatisfying pointless sex with men who literally hate you and don't care that they're hurting you, maybe by saying you want it / asking for it first.

I have never seen this

It definitely happens but also clearly you haven't seen enough android raptor posts on the subject either to even try and start on this

 

[Hojicha]

@Tragon Dirtle Good post I like everything in it

 

[cybertoaster]

For BDSM... read any sex researcher who hasn't drown in the kool-aid and isn't burying facts to support a narrative. Rape fantasies are nearly universal in women, even lesbians often fantasize about getting raped by other women.

They think rape is going to be some kinky safe shit and not getting a few teeth knocked off, being pinned to the floor while forcibly sodomized to the point they might need surgery, and probably get more than a few STDs. You know like real rape is, just ask cops or social workers.

Imagine how violent real rape is that some women are left unable to bear children, but I've to believe some college radfem was raped because she got drunk and fucked some ugly dude.

or have never experienced an actual dangerous man

Yep, knew a girl like that, she got hitched to a guy so insane he failed the psych test to be a cop, imagine that. We all told her the guy was dangerous even her family but in retrospective that probably encouraged her, plus she was a daddy's girl used to get what she wants. After marriage dude got her pregnant, beat her, didn't have a job and robbed her constantly. Refused to sign the divorce papers then moved to the other side of the country and wont pay child support, leaving her with a little girl that frankly looks half retarded, just like her daddy.

they idealize them because they can be seen as being able to protect them is my thought.

Nah its because they are exciting, is the same with guys who are into extreme sports, chicks love them......until they end in a wheelchair that is.

"Hey can I try this, I heard women love it. You might like it." I said fucking no, you insane twat, and I broke it off with him.

If a girl brings chocking she might have issues or just be falling for a trend (see zoomer retards thinking eating ass is hot and then barfing at the smell as another example of dumb trends). But if a guy brings it up and insists on it odds are he's a psycho.

Now as an inexperienced woman at the time, I assume most girls in their early lives and relationships get pushed into things and convinced to do things they don't really wanna do and they begin to see this shit as normal and it perpetuates.

From my experience women who are born gullible stay gullible. I seen girls who always said no to any abnormal crap like that even in their teens, and others who are almost 40 and still chasing after borderline psychos that don't care about them.

MMA fighters' girlfriends are almost always total smokeshows, no surprise there and TBH I kind of see it. If I was a really hot chick who'd get hit on everywhere I went, I'd want a tough bf/husband too

The irony is that practically all of them end up getting beaten up, sometimes to an inch of their lives...........by their boyfriends. Is like the idiots getting a shitbull for protection and the piece of crap animal mauling them or their kids instead.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

The fantasies of women about "dangerous men" aren't Tyronne the rapist, but rather vampires or pirates who kill around but would never hurt their women. That's why Spike was so popular when Buffy was on: he was a murderer, he had no soul, but he always was soft and sweet with Drusilla. Some women just can't deal with this properly and think Tyronne will not hurt them. Remember how JKR had to tell girls that Tom Felton was a nice young man, but Draco was an asshole and they shouldn't mix them both together. The reality is that the pirate would then sell your body into prostitution after he's done with you. The vampire would kill you. And Spike did try to rape Buffy at some point.

Society does shape our perception, no matter how much morons say only the state can socially engineer us. Pornography is shaping how women perceive sex and men. They think having sex with black men is just some exotic fantasy that will grant you good sex, that's why so many idiots hook up with hoodrats who are wanted by the cops. And if you want to indulge in some weird fantasy, make sure it's someone you truly trust and both people are on board.

Pornography definitely shaped Audrey's perceptions of sex and relationships. She identified with the male sex, so she thought she had to be violent during sex, which more women wouldn't enjoy. Hot rough sex ain't the same as the type of violent sex she was talking about. There is no way that girl Sidney would be ok with be violently anally raped by a fake dick.

 

[anionfarflung]

Women subconsciously want to get pregnant by the bad boy because their instincts tell them that a bad boy's genes will likely out-compete other boys, and once they have conceived they want some simp with resources to protect and nurture them and their bad boy's offspring.

 

[Chromeo]

If a girl brings choking she might have issues or just be falling for a trend (see zoomer retards thinking eating ass is hot and then barfing at the smell as another example of dumb trends). But if a guy brings it up and insists on it odds are he's a psycho.

The only girl I've ever met who liked (or claimed to like) choking was a very unwell woman with severe self-loathing. She put herself in unsafe sexual situations all the time, essentially using it to self-harm. It's a fad with dangerous consequences, hard to talk about in polite conversations, and frequently used to conceal domestic abuse (I didn't strangle my wife, officer, she WANTED to be choked! It was an ACCIDENT that she died!!)

Pornography definitely shaped Audrey's perceptions of sex and relationships. She identified with the male sex, so she thought she had to be violent during sex, which more women wouldn't enjoy. Hot rough sex ain't the same as the type of violent sex she was talking about. There is no way that girl Sidney would be ok with be violently anally raped by a fake dick.

Pornography is getting so easy to access, so removed from reality, so intense, and so omnipresent, it's really becoming a problem. I don't want to sit here and say "well if porn didn't exist, Audrey wouldn't have shot up the school," but if Audrey hadn't had her mind rotted by porn and gooners online (who in turn were rotted by porn,) I feel like her life could've taken a very different path.

 

[cybertoaster]

(I didn't strangle my wife, officer, she WANTED to be choked! It was an ACCIDENT that she died!!)

Nah if you choke her intentionally to death the markings on the neck are different. This choking thing its about temporarily cutting the flow of air, the problem is that the line between making her cum like a faucet and having to do RCP is very thin which is why I never liked this crap. Keep in mind this also happens to dudes, remember when that boomer actor from kungfu was found dead after jacking it while choking himself with a belt?

 

[macrodegenerate]

I would not be with a girl who wanted to be choked. Shit's creepy.

 

[Manimal House]

At the risk of going off topic, there are women who genuinely think fictional characters are their boyfriends/husbands and completely flip the fuck out at anything that contradicts that.

Lol, this thread already got way off topic with all this BDSM, choking, 'suprise! buttsex!' talk. But as degenerate as it is, it's a theme of the leaked diary pages. I think it's worth talking about because being pornsick, fantasized infatuations and distinguishing fiction/reality would get taken lightly if it's left alone too much. Not sure what other thread would be appropriate for it tbh. It's gotta get talked about SOMEWHERE, but there are some updates to Hale's story and The Star's court hearing so I'll post that after this:

Spoiler: Deviant discussion with a side of PL

Yeah, it's like what's said here:

That actor had to come out and tell everyone "I'm not the character I played."
In that mad max movie, cause fucking retarded zoomers think fictional characters are more real than the human beings they attack for playing a bad guy in a fictional role.

People are so attached to fictional characters from movies, comics, games, books and every other medium....it's to the point where it's a whole new level of obsession. This isn't that new, people have been like this for a while and I'm not sure if it's a specific type of psychosis or autism or what. In 2004, there was a show called Totally Obsessed who featured a woman from Oklahoma who talked to Lord of the Rings cardboard cutouts as if they're real people. SHE EVEN BROUGHT THEM TO A RESTAURANT

I view it as a byproduct that's similar to how some people are terminally online. Lot of retards out there, and even more that are only a TAD retarded but they live in podunk middle of nowhere or have no one else to relate to and can't make friends so they just simmer in their own fictional world because reality is too shitty for them to cope with. Story as old as time.

Well, there are certainly varying degrees of dangerous. Dangerous in a "I protect my family" way vs dangerous in a psychopathic way are different.

Like a big part of the fantasy is these scenarios is that you submit to him (or he makes you, as in a rape fantasy) but you're top of the tree magic princess everywhere else, and he treats you like a magic princess the rest of the time.

The fantasies of women about "dangerous men" aren't Tyronne the rapist, but rather vampires or pirates who kill around but would never hurt their women.

Mentioning stuff like Buffy, 50 shades and Draco reminds me: Jordan Peterson said that a lot when he was talking about the psychology of pornography for women, like erotic literature books. A hilariously large amount of them have a vampire or werewolf as the main love interest because pretty much all of them are retellings of Beauty and the Beast. The Twilight series was like that and it blew up big time because the way the books were written, the main female character was an empty avatar for the reader to self-insert into.
And yeah, narcissism can be a big factor in it, but I don't think it has to be. It's more about wanting to feel special, and who wouldn't like that? Some women have a feral NEED for that, seems like the ones in that category are women who never got loved very much by their families or social circles (if any). In fictional stories like Beauty and the Beast, a recurring theme is that the guy becomes NOT dangerous (but still protective and capable) because she changed him. Or 'tamed' him, 'fixed' if you will. Women eat that shit up, too many of them will IRL try to live that fantasy because they want to feel special, but it always ends badly.

I think choking is slightly different in that it's a cheap way to feel something / have an intense experience in what would otherwise be a starfish situation. I don't think any guy who's pushing for choking is going to be the kind of guy to spend time finding the clit.

Nah if you choke her intentionally to death the markings on the neck are different. This choking thing its about temporarily cutting the flow of air, the problem is that the line between making her cum like a faucet and having to do RCP is very thin which is why I never liked this crap.

Ever heard of the 'Choking Game'? Where kids who are trying to get high but don't have drugs will asphyxiate by choking themselves out and getting high from oxygen deficiency? Same shit, and there's a method to it in order to do it right without causing damage, apparently. I've asked some people who are into that and have done the BDSM act with it and they said that the trick is to squeeze two sides of the neck muscle under the chin and push upwards or something. The choking game had that same kind of 'right way to do it' where you had to have your hands upwards and use your thumbs to push a certain part. It's not as simple as just grabbing by the throat and squeezing. Though really, if a guy is pushing for doing that then it's likely that giving her an orgasm isn't the reason he's doing it, it's because he wants to choke a bitch. From my POV it's one of those things where it's only okay for a guy to do that if she's the one who brings it up and asks for it.

Spoiler: This is the most TMI thing I've ever posted here but fuck it I'll share anyways

Many years ago there was a woman I was fooling around with, nothing serious. While we were fucking, she asked me if I could choke her, and I had never done it before. Told her I wasn't sure about that because I don't know the right way to do it and I REALLY don't want to do that the wrong way and she said it's okay she'll tell me what to do. She guided my hand to where it was supposed to go and told me to grip hard.....and no matter how hard I did it, she said to grip harder. At one point, I was using almost all of my strength and apparently that wasn't enough because she STILL said to squeeze harder, and I'm no bodybuilder but I'm not exactly weak. It was at that moment, I knew I fucked up by putting my dick in crazy. I stopped and said 'ooooookay I'm not gonna go further, this don't feel right.' That was the last time I saw her.
Fast forward many years later, a different FWB girl that was relatively inexperienced and only had one previous partner. A bit sheltered and naive, but pornsick and wanted to have a BDSM experience. She asked if I wanted to do that with her because she wanted to live that fantasy. I asked for details on what she wanted, and it was stuff like getting tied up, blindfolded and gagged. At first I was open to the idea and said I'd be down to try, but after thinking about it and remembering the crazy chick that wanted to get strangled to get off, I changed my mind and said "look, if that's what you're into then okay but I don't think I'm the right guy to ask for that."
The reason I'm telling these stories is because from my experience, it's just like what has been said here about women who are into it. One had her brain warped by porn and the other was just straight up crazy to where I don't think porn had anything to do with it. In all seriousness, everyone has SOME type of weird thing that they get off to unless they don't really care that much for sex, human beings are human beings so I can't judge THAT hard. But BDSM is fucked up, I sort of get it but I really don't. Even slightly indulging in it made me feel like a monster.

From my experience women who are born gullible stay gullible.

If they're 'college aged' or younger then they're allowed to be gullible but once you're past 25, then that sounds less gullible and more dumb. And you can't fix dumb.....but then again there's a lot of overlap those two.

Pornography is getting so easy to access, so removed from reality, so intense, and so omnipresent, it's really becoming a problem. I don't want to sit here and say "well if porn didn't exist, Audrey wouldn't have shot up the school," but if Audrey hadn't had her mind rotted by porn and gooners online (who in turn were rotted by porn,) I feel like her life could've taken a very different path.

Well, you're right about that and if Hale was accessing porn then that definietly didn't help....but considering that she was a mental patient for 22 years on SSRI's, I doubt it's the real culprit here. I'd put more blame on the drugs, especially ones that you're forced to take as a teenager that get your wires all crossed the fuck up while your brain is still developing.

 

[Manimal House]

I don't have any particular objections per se, but given that this cow is inactive, I'm not certain why this couldn't be just discussed here. What else is there to discuss?

I say we see where the court case goes. If it goes way beyond Hale's manifesto thing, then that might warrant another thread. But since the Hale document is what this is all about, makes sense for it to be here.

The Judge switching the Show Cause hearing to a "Landscaping" exercise
(Archive)

Spoiler: Clip

When Horwitz asked Myles for clarification about her initial order, which specifically warned Leahy could be subject “to contempt proceedings and sanctions,” the judge referenced her subsequent order.

“I put down a subsequent order,” Myles argued, “which denied your motion to set aside,” and “set forth what we are doing today.”
She then told Horwitz that she could order a subsequent hearing to discuss the issues raised by Leahy in his motion.

The judge confirmed, “Depending on what I hear today, there may be a subsequent hearing and or motion where your motion would perhaps come back to life and we would have a discussion in regards to a show cause or contempt hearing,” then stated that her primary objective was “to understand, first, what the landscape is, and that’s what we’re going to do.”

Metro Legal, through attorney Lora Fox, argued that the court did not have sufficient jurisdiction to initiate contempt proceedings against retired MNPD Lieutenant Garet Davidson, who MNPD stated in a Friday legal filing had access to at least a portion of the materials published by The Star.

Seems like the judge is backing off a little bit but still trying to keep him tied up in court, idk it's hard to tell what's going on.

As for Hale, they made a new article about how she said her mother was the 'Only love she had'.
(Archive)

They just posted a new one, Hale called everyone she didn't like "robots" "clones" and "not real"
(Archive)

Like clockwork, can't tell reality from fiction. Shocker.
(EDIT: Fixed the quoted spoiler clip from the article)

 

[Tasty Tatty]

But as degenerate as it is, it's a theme of the leaked diary pages. I think it's worth talking about because being pornsick, fantasized infatuations and distinguishing fiction/reality would get taken lightly if it's left alone too much.

This kid was definitely a victim of twisted views about sex and the most likely place she was exposed to it was the internet and porn specifically. People aren't talking about it as they should be because the usual grifter suspects just want to talk about troonism.

 

[Reminmyster]

Proceeds to enter a school to shoot up “the future”

Those were evil white people's kids she needed to defend all the minorities from future mass shooters.

 

[cybertoaster]

That actor had to come out and tell everyone "I'm not the character I played."
In that mad max movie

Which actor?

They think having sex with black men is just some exotic fantasy that will grant you good sex, that's why so many idiots hook up with hoodrats who are wanted by the cops.

That's the thing, they don't want carlton the middle class black guy who's going to law school, they want tyresse the highschool dropout who sells fent. But for some reason they think he's safer than cletus who is the white equivalent that they would never ever even talk to let alone have sex with him.

Between this and the dumb cali feminist who just mauled to death by a bear its clear media can convince women to fall off a cliff, and here I thought they couldn't be that dense.

If they're 'college aged' or younger then they're allowed to be gullible but once you're past 25, then that sounds less gullible and more dumb. And you can't fix dumb.....but then again there's a lot of overlap those two.

Dunno, some people are too good for the real world, they never even consider other people might be evil fucks out to harm them.

This isn't that new, people have been like this for a while and I'm not sure if it's a specific type of psychosis or autism or what. In 2004, there was a show called Totally Obsessed who featured a woman from Oklahoma who talked to Lord of the Rings cardboard cutouts as if they're real people. SHE EVEN BROUGHT THEM TO A RESTAURANT

See the difference is that back then that woman was a total loonie, meanwhile today we're being told to tolerate that lunacy.

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

Which actor?

Nathan Jones looks like it was facebook maybe IDK.

 

[Manimal House]

Something that the TS reports referenced from:
SuperTalk 99.7's Brian Wilson did a radio show on June 7th where he broadcasted the police interview with Audrey Hale's parents four months after the shooting.
His shows are about three hours long, so here's a clip of that segment.

Yesterday, he did another broadcast talking about the show cause hearing and offers a different take on what's happening with that. Some audio clips of the hearing are included. For some reason, the broadcast on youtube is cut off at the beginning and most of the info isn't there. Though it's also on X, link to the broadcast here where he talks about it from the 2 to 15 minute mark.

TLDL: He thinks someone tattled to the Judge about the leaks and she made a knee-jerk reaction, accidentally thinking all documents were made public. When she found out that it wasn't, she retracted and decided to make a decision later so no contempt but the case is moving on. He also says there's a requirement under the law to report to the police when a health professional is told by someone that they plan to shoot up a school, but the statute of limitations on that is one year in Tennessee. He suspects that the original lawsuit and effort against the documents' release is a defensive legal strategy to run out the clock to prevent a civil suit against whoever's responsible, which could be anyone or everyone.

 

[Law]

Rape fantasies are nearly universal in women, even lesbians often fantasize about getting raped by other women.

Men have this insane need to believe that women secretly want to raped because they want to rape women, and they know it's wrong, so they need to convince themselves that "she totally wanted it bro, all women are like that".