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Atheists and children shall lead us​

The church has a credibility problem. That isn’t a hot take. It’s measurable. Trust surveys show a steady decline. Attendance keeps sliding. The reputation of Christians is more and more tied to power, money and fear rather than mercy, humility and repair. Many of us feel this deeply. We love the story of Jesus. We are not proud of what has been done in that name.

At some point, we have to admit that insiders aren’t fixing this. Committees won’t save us. Rebrands won’t save us. Louder preaching won’t save us.

We may need to listen to people who walked away. We may need to listen to children who have not yet learned how to protect the institution.

Maybe the atheists and children can lead us.

Jesus trusted outsiders more than religious professionals. Children were brought to him as interruptions, and Jesus refused to send them away. A Roman centurion understood trust better than the synagogue leaders. A Samaritan showed mercy when religious men crossed the road. None of that was accidental. Throughout the Gospels, truth often comes from those the system doesn’t reward.

One of my best friends is an atheist now. He once was a youth pastor. He loved the kids. He believed deeply. He studied scripture seriously. He did the youth lock-ins, the studies, the late- night phone calls. He did not leave for comfort. He left when the church stopped sounding like Jesus.

He talks about the slow erosion. Sermons about love paired with policies of exclusion. Prayers for peace offered by people cheering violence. Calls for generosity while protecting wealth. He watched abuse minimized to protect reputations. He watched women silenced. He watched queer kids taught to hate themselves in the name of holiness. He kept asking for honesty. He kept being told to be patient.

Eventually patience ran out. Faith, for him, collapsed under the weight of contradiction. When I ask what finally broke it, he does not mention doubt about God. He mentions disappointment in Christians.

When he speaks now, without a pulpit and without a paycheck attached to belief, he names things many churches refuse to say out loud. He says Jesus never asked to be defended by force. He says truth does not need fear to survive. He says if your theology requires someone else to be smaller, quieter or invisible, it is already wrong.

These are not attacks. They are observations.

Children say similar things, though with fewer footnotes. They ask why the church talks about love, but their friend is not welcome. They ask why prayers do not match behavior. They ask why adults say God cares while ignoring suffering they can see.

Children have not learned how to make excuses for us. That is a gift.

Some Christians bristle at the idea of being led by atheists or children. It feels like surrender. It feels dangerous. But leadership in the way of Jesus has never been about control. It is about truth-telling and repentance. If we cannot hear critique from outside our walls, we are not strong. We are brittle.

The Anabaptist Witness has always distrusted power and trusted lived obedience. It reminds us that faith is shown, not argued, and mercy matters most.

Listening does not mean abandoning faith. It means testing it. It means holding our practices up to the life of Jesus and asking hard questions. Are we known for mercy? Are we known for humility? Are we known for repair? Or are we known for winning?

The church does not need better arguments. It needs better fruit. Atheists and children are not the enemy. They are mirrors. They reflect back what we have become. We can smash the mirror, or we can wash our face.

Maybe leadership now looks like shutting up and taking notes. Maybe it looks like repentance without spin. Maybe it looks like rebuilding trust slowly, honestly, without guarantees.

The gospel is not fragile. But our egos are.

If we believe Jesus is truth, then we should not fear where truth comes from. Sometimes it comes from a former pastor who could not keep pretending. Sometimes it comes from a child asking an inconvenient question. If we are wise, we will follow their voices back to the heart of what we lost.

That kind of following will cost us. It may shrink budgets. It may empty buildings. It may end careers built on certainty. But it might also free us to love our neighbors without agenda. It might return us to service without spectacle. It might help us stop talking about Jesus and finally start resembling Jesus. That is a risk worth taking if the church hopes to be worthy of even cautious trust again.
 
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TL;DR writer writes that we should follow liberal athiests rather than be more conservative.
 
How? Atheists don't have a leg to stand when it comes to telling people to do anything. They think everything is just preferred that way, and base their choices on feelings instead of logic. Any governances that is apart from god is doomed to fail.

 
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One of my best friends is an atheist now. He once was a youth pastor. He loved the kids
Yep, I'm sure he did.

Eventually patience ran out. Faith, for him, collapsed under the weight of contradiction. When I ask what finally broke it, he does not mention doubt about God. He mentions disappointment in Christians.
This makes no sense. Having faith requires suspending your disbelief in order for it to work. I'm not religious but I think if he saw contradictions in the Bible it's likely just his own misinterpretations. Or perhaps the contradictions he saw were Christians who did not worship the same way as him. The article doesn't really elaborate.

He's just "disappointed in Christians" because he was caught being a pedo or something.

Some Christians bristle at the idea of being led by atheists or children.
Yes because atheists are faggots and children have no idea what's going on.
 
Jesus trusted outsiders more than religious professionals. Children were brought to him as interruptions, and Jesus refused to send them away. A Roman centurion understood trust better than the synagogue leaders. A Samaritan showed mercy when religious men crossed the road.
The good Samaritan was a character in a parable, like the prodigal son. Mentioning him on the same footing as the real-life centurion is nonsense, or at least shows that you consider all of the gospels to be made-up stories.
 
disappointed in Christians
That's also what really gets my goat about this article. It's just passive aggressive judgement for politics and community service. The faith they have is shallow, as they point out the splinters in eyes of others, ignoring the log in their own.
 
The author is correct, but not for the reasons he thinks. Contradiction really is what killed Christianity in the west, but the contradiction isn't about being told to love thy neighbor and hate faggots (which 100% he and his ass buddy never heard), but how men are women and that promiscuity and anal sex are good. People abandoned the church because they got sick of leftists messages that are completely contradictory to both the gospel and basic logic.

He tries to argue about truth as some goal for the church to strive for, but if he heard someone talking about the truth of sexual abuse in single sex parents household he would have called it a lie.
 
The church has a credibility problem. That isn’t a hot take. It’s measurable. Trust surveys show a steady decline. Attendance keeps sliding. The reputation of Christians is more and more tied to power, money and fear rather than mercy, humility and repair.
Wrong. The reputations of Christians is in the gutter because their leaders are a combination of sick perverts, blatant grifters, spineless progressives and outright traitors.

It is a well deserved reputation, and listening to Reddit Atheists and children will only exacerbate the problem.

Christian leaders need to make it clear they have a strong in group preference for their own culture and tradition, and be willing to be hostile to those who would see it destroyed.

I’ll likely never believe in god, but if the Pope restored Latin Mass, punished the chomos in the clergy and hired mercenaries to go kill the Muslims butchering Christians in Africa, I’d start going to mass again.
 
Wrong. The reputations of Christians is in the gutter because their leaders are a combination of sick perverts, blatant grifters, spineless progressives and outright traitors.

It is a well deserved reputation, and listening to Reddit Atheists and children will only exacerbate the problem.

Christian leaders need to make it clear they have a strong in group preference for their own culture and tradition, and be willing to be hostile to those who would see it destroyed.

I’ll likely never believe in god, but if the Pope restored Latin Mass, punished the chomos in the clergy and hired mercenaries to go kill the Muslims butchering Christians in Africa, I’d start going to mass again.
Hell I'd even do the "10% of income to charity" thing if I knew that it was going to kill sandniggers, not import them.
 
Any specific advice you'd like to give, or are you just gonna keep bitching and moaning because I'm not letting drag queens read to my son?
 
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