Science Astronomers call for renaming the Magellanic Clouds - "Milky Clouds" floated as alternative

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Astronomers call for renaming the Magellanic Clouds​

Explorer Ferdinand Magellan's name is not fitting, a group of scientists argues​


By Emily Conover
SEPTEMBER 26, 2023 AT 7:00 AM

Names have significance, especially when they’re written in the stars.

A group of astronomers is coalescing around an idea to rename two neighbors of the Milky Way, the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds.
Named after explorer Ferdinand Magellan, the satellite galaxies are visible with the naked eye from the Southern Hemisphere. But Magellan’s name is not fitting, astronomer Mia de los Reyes and colleagues argue. The leader of the first expedition to successfully circle the globe, Magellan enslaved and killed Indigenous people encountered on the voyage, which set out from Spain in 1519 (SN: 9/17/19).

“Because we’re naming things in the night sky, which belongs to everyone, we think that it’s important to have names that reflect all of humanity,” says de los Reyes, of Amherst College in Massachusetts. She calls for the name change in an opinion piece published September 12 in Physics. Magellan’s voyage helped pave the way for Spanish colonialism in South America, Guam and the Philippines, says de los Reyes, who is Filipino American. “Many people see Magellan as a villain in the Philippines.”
The Magellanic clouds loom large in the field of astronomy. They’re independent galaxies, but close enough that astronomers can observe the individual stars within (SN: 4/1/22). “The Magellanic Clouds are this amazing laboratory for seeing things up close and personal,” says astronomer Sally Oey of the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, a supporter of the name change.

Magellan wasn’t an astronomer. The clouds were noted by a member of his expedition, but they were already well-known to many cultures in the Southern Hemisphere, and even to previous European explorers. “It doesn’t make sense to have them named after any one person, let alone a person who never actually studied them,” says astronomer Gurtina Besla of the University of Arizona in Tucson.

The galaxies have been known scientifically by Magellan’s name since only the end of the 19th century — well after Magellan’s voyage. That’s just a blip in the history of astronomy, the researchers argue.

More than 100 astronomers have expressed interest in the campaign, anchored by a core group of about 50, de los Reyes says. The group aims to bring the proposal to the International Astronomical Union, in hopes of eventually holding a vote on the name change. Other fields of science are undergoing similar debates, with groups of researchers pushing to revise offensive names for certain plants and animals, for example (SN: 8/25/21).

The astronomers are now trying out new names. One popular suggestion is to call them the “Milky Clouds.” That would maintain the commonly used acronyms, LMC and SMC. And it would reflect the galaxies’ connection to something much bigger than any one person — the Milky Way.
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CITATIONS​

M. de los Reyes. Astronomers need to rename the Magellanic Clouds. Physics. Published online, September 12, 2023. doi: 10.1103/Physics.16.152.
M. Dennefeld. A history of the Magellanic Clouds and the European exploration of the Southern Hemisphere. arXiv:2009.04973. Submitted Sep 10, 2020.
 
Can we name them the Niggerfaggot Clouds?

It's BIBOC AND LGBTQBBQABC++ representation!
 
they were already well-known to many cultures in the Southern Hemisphere
Then maybe those cultures should have become glob spanning empires that steered the course of history forming the bedrock for the modern world so that they could have named a couple of things themselves. Sucks to sucks I guess but I don't see why we should award under-achievement.
 
"Milky Clouds" is such a fucking lame ass name.

And I'm sorry, but fuck "muh natives." Ferdinand Magellan and his voyages did more to contribute to the overall betterment of humanity than the paleolithic barbarians he encountered. As such he deserves to have his name immortalized in the stars - especially for all the future Ferdinand Magellans that manage to navigate their way there.
 
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Exactly zero Persons of Whining are being harmed by the name of interstellar clouds they have never seen or heard of.
 
The audacity to think that they can remove someone's name and achievements from History because he did what these Indigenous did to others before them.

One popular suggestion is to call them the “Milky Clouds.”
So smart. That is worth removing the name of one of the greatest explorers.
 
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MUH COLONIALISM REEEEEEE!!!!!
And so the cycle of insufferability in the natural sciences continues. Not that astronomy has been good, in fact it's been terminally fucked by (((theory of relativity))) garbage for nearly 80 years now.
 
So when is PETA going to object to the promotion of milk products and insist it be called the Soylent Clouds instead?

Also, is claiming a name is offensive and trying to change it the easiest way to get your name in the news?
 
We should get indigenous opinion before we make any significant decisions regarding territory that doesn't belong to us. Assuming we transmit our plans now, we'll hear back from the LMC in about 320,000 years.
 
But Milky is still euro-centric, as most non-Europeans are often lactose intolerant.

That aside, any "scientist" who's doing this instead of lab work is a fucking hack. One reason our scientific progress has stalled is too many people with degrees aren't being put to work to actually figure shit out.
 
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Africans perpetrated the entire Transatlantic Slave Trade. Can we change the name of everything named after niggers and demolish all George Floyd memorials?

Letting women out of the kitchen was a huge mistake.
 
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