Assassin's Creed Valhalla - WE WUZ VIKANGS

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I'm of the opinion that the RPG elements they've added are fucking killing anything that made this series entertaining in the first place. I understand wanting the player to have some form of a learning curve, but it's dogshit that even with "hidden blade" attacks in Origins/Odyssey, you can do everything correctly in sneaking up on someone and still get rekt just because their number is higher than your number. They began the process of turning it into a pay-to-win thing with Unity, but it was in a minimal sort of way where the money only bought you better gear. Then they said fuck it all and directly went to pay-to-win with Origins (I just...I don't even feel like going into all the problems I had with Syndicate, aka Victorian GTA) to the extent where to you could either spend countless hours leveling up toward the end or pay them cold hard cash for a level up.
I thoroughly enjoyed the added mechanics and "new" feel that ACIII and AC:Black Flag brought - for once we weren't thrown into conveniently stacked European cities and the environment was a blast. Changing seasons, hunting for resources, and of course "muh boats" all combined to make those games much more enjoyable for me than the previous entries. Unity returned to the European cityscapes but at least had some positive new changes to things like parkour, combat was a nice mix of stealth and you were in no way pushed to grind/spend $ for better gear - It's entirely possible to complete the entire game using the basic gear they give you just through leveling up.
I have not really been excited for an AC game since Unity, though. And this recent news just confirms it. We Wuz Vikangs, as described in the thread title, might just be the most accurate way to sum it up so far. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong, but the only way this game is going to be somewhat decent is if they ditch the garbage RPG elements and stop trying to appease too many people at once.
 
Anyone else watch some of the gameplay for this? Some of it looks a lot better than Origins and Odyssey as far as gameplay goes. Granted, I’ve said that the for every one since Unity fucked the entire franchise and Origins and Odyssey were both dissappointing in different ways. How much money do people think they’ve left off the the table by refusing to do a Steam version?
 
HeyYou said:
whhhhhhhhhy

From what I remember of Odyssey, it was incredibly cringy. I don't know why they aren't dropping the RPG-lite shit that didn't work, they aren't good at it.
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Like at least show them stripping off their clothes and when the player character slides their pants/skirt/kilt down show a brief bit of ass shot ala the waterfall sex scene from Andromeda
 
ConfederateIrishman said:
I can't be the only one who thinks they should have jettisoned the old asscreed lore and just started making fun pirate/sailing games, right?
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Duncan Hills Coffee said:
The story basically became a complete joke after III's ending. Say what you will about the Desmond subplot, at least there was something going on and there was an actual character the audience could grasp onto. Granted, no one played the series for the modern subplot, but there was at least some effort put into Desmond's side of things. Now that Desmond's gone, there's not really any reason to care about the modern subplot. They should have abandoned that part altogether frankly.
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I think the series should have been split up into sub-series and spinoffs, though the presence of so many cash-in titles makes it a bit trickier. The actual core series seriously needs to be pruned.

IMO, the post-Unity scattershot approach to the settings makes it far harder to create likeable characters- they try to do this in the modern story, but its actual lack of gameplay presence results in failure to connect with the audience.

AssCreed 1-Revelations: The Ezio Tetrology
Original core of the series, with mild evolutions throughout.

AssCreed 3-Rogue: The Kenway Saga
Series loses Desmond at the start and lacks a singular character, but sort of gains an arc through the stories of the Kenway family. Ubisoft struggles to redefine modern story, but the game retains most of its core mechanics, with new side elements introduced.

AssCreed Unity-Syndicate: Aborted Revival + the "Save"
New 'restart' with ambitious gameplay improvements, but still fails to revive modern story, and is somewhat unfairly maligned for being buggy at release. Syndicate is a return to older models + the introduction of RPG elements, but still fails to capture the spirit of the older games (in large part due to its world).

AssCreed Origins-Vahalla: The 'Historia' Series
Completely new game mechanics and the spread of more RPG elements through three totally unrelated historical settings. The 'Assassin' element is really more of a relic at this point. Series is still struggling to define modern tale despite the introduction of Layla. Honestly these should be split off into a new series, maybe the 'Animus Series', with a new reboot focusing back onto Unity and a late 18th-mid 19th century setting.


All the Mobile Games, Novels and Comics
Mostly garbage and non-canon in my view.
 
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Series is still struggling to define modern tale despite the introduction of Layla.
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I can't stand the new modern protagonist. She is written like every other [current year] female protagonist: strong, independent, smug know-it-all, she's so smrt that she built her own Animus device that can handle 2 different DNA at the same time.

The 'Assassin' element is really more of a relic at this point.
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I've been playing Odyssey recently, do we even get the hidden blades at one point or is it just looter/shooter with offline-MMO fetch quests for the entire game?
 
Miller said:
I've been playing Odyssey recently, do we even get the hidden blades at one point or is it just looter/shooter with offline-MMO fetch quests for the entire game?
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One of the DLC campaigns is called Legacy of the Hidden Blade. One of the main NPCs in it uses one. But I don't think you actually get one yourself.

Ubisoft has shown your Valhalla character with one, so you will get one in new game.

I've played a ton of Odyssey. For whatever reason, I get into the gameplay loop they built around it.

Looking forward to Valhalla.
 
Miller said:
I can't stand the new modern protagonist. She is written like every other [current year] female protagonist: strong, independent, smug know-it-all, she's so smrt that she built her own Animus device that can handle 2 different DNA at the same time.
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Layla is horrifying as a character. A Precursor ghost possesses her and kills her best friend and her only response is “oh no” and then immediately hops back into the Animus.

Doesn’t mourn for her friend or even move the body. Doesn’t even consider the possibility that Precursor shit might be dangerous and maybe should be carefully studied and not going 100% without understanding any of it.
 
Takayuki Yagami said:
I’m genuinely surprised by how good that game looks. I probably shouldn’t be considering Sucker Punch is one of the only Sony 1st Parties that hasn’t completely shit the bed; and they’ve been working on it for years longer than Ubi gives to any of their teams.
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It really sucks how the gaming industry is so locked in to making same old same old.
I would kill for a couple of really good history 3rd person rpg/action games
 
Not sure how you can make Alfred the Great into a villain honestly. Man is one of the great heroes of Western Europe, a man who grew up during a time when Norse raids were a terrifying fact of life. Not only did he succeed his brother to the throne of Wessex, he also managed, for a time, to kick out or convert the norse invaders busy ransacking the isles.

I don’t know, turning Alfred into the villain of the game seems like a tall order
 
Assassin's Creed is just pants now... why do Ubisoft even bother? Origins was a nice change and the setting was beautiful but then Odyssey came along and just... watered it down with copy/paste quests and a pretty shit designed world with nothing memorable.

Finding the pyramids was the first thing i tried to do in AC Origins... and holy damn they looked beautiful.....
 
You guys are going to be mad.

They're actually not barbarians/vikings
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They're Isu clones/meatpuppets.
 
I've been playing it the last few hours. As someone who liked Origins and Odyssey I've been enjoying it. It's essentially Origins but with a viking reskin. My favorite improvement over the last two so far is that there's only a handful of equipment, all of it unique.

Also, PSA - Norse Mythology and the Misappropriation of Culture by White Supremacists is one of the top threads on the Assassin's Creed subreddit. Enjoy.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
I've been playing it the last few hours. As someone who liked Origins and Odyssey I've been enjoying it. It's essentially Origins but with a viking reskin. My favorite improvement over the last two so far is that there's only a handful of equipment, all of it unique.

Also, PSA - Norse Mythology and the Misappropriation of Culture by White Supremacists is one of the top threads on the Assassin's Creed subreddit. Enjoy.
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That reddit thread is filled with lardass redditors LARPing as pagans, fucking clown world shit

imagine believing that you as a north american urban loser and terminally online liberal have anything in common with the northern germanic people of the early medieval age
 
I just wonder how they'll make out the group with the culture of raping and taking other people's shit as the good guys. Does the game opens with the villain choking the drugged up brother of the protagonist to death?
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I just wonder how they'll make out the group with the culture of raping and taking other people's shit as the good guys. Does the game opens with the villain choking the drugged up brother of the protagonist to death?
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I feel like that TV show has revised history to Vikings being innocent socialist feminists trying to free the women of Europe from the oppression of the Catholic Church.

"Viking Age Scandinavians were immigrants who traded with the Muslim world and embraced gender fluidity—everything the alt-right despises."

 
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