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Articles & Happenings is the third attempt at a news board on the Kiwi Farms. It is a cursed place. Every moderator who has been assigned here has resigned within a year. During 2016, the political crossfire was so bad it spread to different boards and culminated in me banning American news discussion entirely for several months. It has been deleted in its entirety twice. There is no actual discussion here, it's people posting garbage. It leans much further right than the rest of the site and doesn't particularly conduct discussion because dissenting opinions are dogpiled by a thousand memelords posting shit they read on /pol/ without any critical analysis.

The only rules that can be enforced are empirical ones with boolean violation answers. New threads must cite a real source directly and must use the headline of the article as a thread title without any editorializing. Articles must be archived in some way and must link to the original article. Replies that are one word or a reaction images are automatic one-month bans from the board.

I'm creating this now because it seems like this place is here to stay and is one of the largest areas of the entire site. I might as well throw in bare minimum effort to improve it. I don't even try to find mods for here because they will quit, without exception. I've added new prefixes ("Business" and "Crime") just now.

Discuss.


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TIL that SA goons actually came up with an interesting concept. Were the Clinton backers actually banned, or was MUH POPULAR VOTE used as an excuse to let them off?

The admin team tried to let them welch on their bet with a donation to RAINN.

Lowtax had to personally force the admins to process the bans. This is pretty much the point where I say the admins started to turn on him.
 

Why are kiwifarm mod team such bootlickers that they only allow verifiedtm news sources? As if any mainstream news source is any degree of reliable in 2020.

You'll accept such esteemed journals as poz.com, cocktailsandcocktalk.com and the guardian, but when I post thought provoking editorials from hardworking and humble blogs such as the idcommunism or the daily stormer they get removed.

What gives?

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Seriously though, what's the point of editorial control over what sources are posted? If you want me to keep editorials to certain 10%ish, I get that, there's only so many you can glance over before you want to gouge out your own eyes. The illusion that the other articles are news because they managed to survive the social media news apocalypse is as dangerous as it is silly.

Also you mods have been incredibly hard to rile up. Never had such a calm response to my nonsense. 10/10, would post more misinformation on your site.
 
Why are kiwifarm mod team such bootlickers that they only allow verifiedtm news sources? As if any mainstream news source is any degree of reliable in 2020.

You'll accept such esteemed journals as poz.com, cocktailsandcocktalk.com and the guardian, but when I post thought provoking editorials from hardworking and humble blogs such as the idcommunism or the daily stormer they get removed.

What gives?

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Seriously though, what's the point of editorial control over what sources are posted? If you want me to keep editorials to certain 10%ish, I get that, there's only so many you can glance over before you want to gouge out your own eyes. The illusion that the other articles are news because they managed to survive the social media news apocalypse is as dangerous as it is silly.

Also you mods have been incredibly hard to rile up. Never had such a calm response to my nonsense. 10/10, would post more misinformation on your site.
Those sorts of discussions and threads would be better off in Deep Thoughts.

If we allowed blogs to go into A&H then we'd get overrun with pretty terrible ones in a hurry. I consider almost none of the mainstream news outlets to be anything close to an authoritative source that are essentially just a blog for angry journalists, but I still have to adhere to the fact that VOX.com is not quite the same as a Wordpress blog, even if the lady writing that blog is presenting significantly better material than the 20-something busy finding the next thing to jam up his ass.

Most of the time, the hilarity from A&H posts comes from the fact that these places desperately want to be taken seriously while they're publishing incredibly un-serious things. Something like the exploration of America's cultural degeneration also isn't a specific event, it's more of a broad-reaching topic instead of centering around an immediate development. It's a bit of a finicky area with a couple of grey spots, but I do feel like most of the things you're posting out there would do better in a different part of the forum.
 
Those sorts of discussions and threads would be better off in Deep Thoughts.

If we allowed blogs to go into A&H then we'd get overrun with pretty terrible ones in a hurry. I consider almost none of the mainstream news outlets to be anything close to an authoritative source that are essentially just a blog for angry journalists, but I still have to adhere to the fact that VOX.com is not quite the same as a Wordpress blog, even if the lady writing that blog is presenting significantly better material than the 20-something busy finding the next thing to jam up his ass.

Most of the time, the hilarity from A&H posts comes from the fact that these places desperately want to be taken seriously while they're publishing incredibly un-serious things. Something like the exploration of America's cultural degeneration also isn't a specific event, it's more of a broad-reaching topic instead of centering around an immediate development. It's a bit of a finicky area with a couple of grey spots, but I do feel like most of the things you're posting out there would do better in a different part of the forum.

That actually makes a lot of sense. As I said. 10/10.
 
For me, a lot of the story on AnH isn't the articles themselves, but the fact that a bunch of the journalists who write them are exhibiting cowlike behavior.
 
What the fuck is this website, where do you even find websites like this

Just because the CSS wasn't loading for you, doesn't mean it's a defunct website.

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I use RSS feeds and I've got about a hundred sites in various catogories. This one is from a group of sites that I grouped under for various jewish interest websites, including algemeiner.com and isreallycool.

Arutz Sheva is the third largest news organisation in Israel, so I'm not sure why you're being so antisemitic about this.

You asked me to stop post blogs, so I did. This is literally a mass media organisation.

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The article I posted was factually true, which puts it above CNN in quality terms, a large news network. I get that it looks dodgy if CSS doesn't load, but the website works fine for me and others. You didn't need to yeet it.
 
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Just because the CSS wasn't loading for you, doesn't mean it's a defunct website.

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I use RSS feeds and I've got about a hundred sites in various catogories. This one is from a group of sites that I grouped under for various jewish interest websites, including algemeiner.com and isreallycool.

Arutz Sheva is the third largest news organisation in Israel, so I'm not sure why you're being so antisemitic about this.

You asked me to stop post blogs, so I did. This is literally a mass media organisation.

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The article I posted was factually true, which puts it above CNN in quality terms, a large news network. I get that it looks dodgy if CSS doesn't load, but the website works fine for me and others. You didn't need to yeet it.
I didn't actually spergatory that one, but I was going to merge it with the Biden or Voter Fraud threads because it wasn't particularly an article itself, it was a video and about 2-3 sentences, and it had already been mentioned in both threads on top of that. I hate to make it seem like you're being intentionally singled out, but you just keep posting really unusual things that just happen to always get reported.

Some outlets like CNN also have these "video articles" on occasion, and if someone posted one of those as a stand-alone I'd do the same thing. A video should be ancillary to a thread, but not the entirety of an actual thread in and of itself. If we allowed a video to be the primary OP for threads, you know damned well we'd have 500 Styxx and Beanie Man and Tucker Carlson "articles" by morning.
 
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I didn't actually spergatory that one, but I was going to merge it with the Biden or Voter Fraud threads because it wasn't particularly an article itself, it was a video and about 2-3 sentences, and it had already been mentioned in both threads on top of that. I hate to make it seem like you're being intentionally singled out, but you just keep posting really unusual things that just happen to always get reported.

Some outlets like CNN also have these "video articles" on occasion, and if someone posted one of those as a stand-alone I'd do the same thing. A video should be ancillary to a thread, but not the entirety of an actual thread in and of itself. If we allowed a video to be the primary OP for threads, you know damned well we'd have 500 Styxx and Beanie Man and Tucker Carlson "articles" by morning.

That makes sense, I thought you first gave the reply and then yeeted it.

I guess it would save both of us some time if a reason was added when such an action is taken. You know on top of the 3 minutes it takes me to find and post it and the 2 minutes it takes a mod to open and also not read it and then take action. Lol. Doesn't really matter. It's more that I'd like to know how to self-censor to be in compliance with local political correctness.

You're being a gent about this whole thing. To be honest, I'm a bit surprised that I'm not being singled out intentionally. Sometimes I've posted something and it just sits there for weeks and I'm scratching my head. Why the fuck would anyone let me get away with this?
 
That makes sense, I thought you first gave the reply and then yeeted it.

I guess it would save both of us some time if a reason was added when such an action is taken. You know on top of the 3 minutes it takes me to find and post it and the 2 minutes it takes a mod to open and also not read it and then take action. Lol. Doesn't really matter. It's more that I'd like to know how to self-censor to be in compliance with local political correctness.

You're being a gent about this whole thing. To be honest, I'm a bit surprised that I'm not being singled out intentionally. Sometimes I've posted something and it just sits there for weeks and I'm scratching my head. Why the fuck would anyone let me get away with this?
Nah, if anyone's being singled out right now, it's probably that guy who threw crap all over the walls in the Hunter Biden laptop thread. If there's any partisanship in the moderation team, I've never seen it manifest in a way that would lead them to prefer removing one type of content over another to the benefit of their political preferences. If anything I'd describe them as being dismissive or disinterested in A&H, nevermind anything approaching intentionally-directed censorship.

The political content of the story is never what gets a post moderated, it's just whether or not it adheres to the formatting expected of A&H, and even then posts will slip under the radar if nobody reports it. If it's not reported, the mods don't care and probably won't even see it. Hell, I don't even read half the stories posted in A&H because they just don't interest me, so I'm not going to go out of my way to find problems. If I can't even be arsed to stringently read every single thread on the board I've been assigned to, the globals--who have to moderate every thread on the farms--aren't going to do it either.

It's not that you have to censor yourself, it's just that you need the right material to justify an OP, or to just post the content in a thread it would already belong to, like with this one and how it would have fit inside of the Biden or Voter Fraud threads. They wouldn't have been touched if they were in those threads because they're already in those threads, but as a stand-alone and as an OP, it wouldn't work.
 
Nah, if anyone's being singled out right now, it's probably that guy who threw crap all over the walls in the Hunter Biden laptop thread. If there's any partisanship in the moderation team, I've never seen it manifest in a way that would lead them to prefer removing one type of content over another to the benefit of their political preferences. If anything I'd describe them as being dismissive or disinterested in A&H, nevermind anything approaching intentionally-directed censorship.

The political content of the story is never what gets a post moderated, it's just whether or not it adheres to the formatting expected of A&H, and even then posts will slip under the radar if nobody reports it. If it's not reported, the mods don't care and probably won't even see it. Hell, I don't even read half the stories posted in A&H because they just don't interest me, so I'm not going to go out of my way to find problems. If I can't even be arsed to stringently read every single thread on the board I've been assigned to, the globals--who have to moderate every thread on the farms--aren't going to do it either.

It's not that you have to censor yourself, it's just that you need the right material to justify an OP, or to just post the content in a thread it would already belong to, like with this one and how it would have fit inside of the Biden or Voter Fraud threads. They wouldn't have been touched if they were in those threads because they're already in those threads, but as a stand-alone and as an OP, it wouldn't work.

Lmao, don't take my comments too seriously. The self-censor comment was a joke about the self-importance of people that post stuff online. You know, people like me. Sometimes I just sit there thinking it's very important and that what I post on various sites makes any difference. Can you believe that? I can't even remember what I posted yesterday, why would anyone else?

I mean you do a nice job and I appreciate the outreach, but the idea that the content is never the reason a post gets moderated is just not something you could know. You can't look into their heads, or collectively observe the interplay between reporting and responses from moderators. As you say, it's too complex and too uninteresting. And who fucking cares anyways? People who take their news from kiwifarms are going to be badly informed in the first place. It's like wearing crazy color glasses. It's fun. It's not going to help you drive better.

Thanks for clearing some things up.
 
@It's HK-47 Could we combine the GEOTUS and Biden megathread into one and call it the official 2020 Election thread for A&N like it was done for 2016. There are people posting Biden stuff outside the megathread and the Biden thread has turned into the 2020 election discussion without deep thoughts influence.

Also can I call dibs on the 2020 election night happenings thread since I came up with the voter guide?
 
Better yet, can we just have a Trump megathread so his retarded fans can stop spamming articles about him?
 
Yeah it's weird that people want to talk about the President 24 hours before the election, I don't know what's up with that.
lol no. This Trump worship has been going on for at least a year. Probably started when an account was required to view this subforum. Or perhaps it coincided with the_donald being nuked. But something has shifted and it's fucking annoying. A & N used to be only slightly right leaning instead of the Trumptard mess that it is now.
 
the worst part of A H N is how the demons drag my hand around when I'm holding the mouse and make me click on it
 
lol no. This Trump worship has been going on for at least a year. Probably started when an account was required to view this subforum. Or perhaps it coincided with the_donald being nuked. But something has shifted and it's fucking annoying. A & N used to be only slightly right leaning instead of the Trumptard mess that it is now.
I smell the sweaty hands filled with the cries of the whine of a thousand seas that wrote this post right from my computer screen.

I've actually seen quite more balance on A&H as of late, opposite to what you have said, since people like you are on threads whining every single time something happens that is not in your favor. You must be one of the types that lurk /cow/.
 
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